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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:35:00 -
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Let's be honest. This game has a lot of machine guns: assault scrambler rifle, rail rifle, assault rail rifle, magsec SMG, plasma(assault) rifle, HMG, SMG, and assault combat rifle. But wait you say, many of the weapons I've mentioned are rifle. And to that I reply: mechanically, they are just machine guns with longer ranges. Much like machine guns, our assault rifles have one mode of fire, fully automatic. An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between semi-automatic, fully automatic and/or burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Surprisingly, no one has ever taken issue with this?
Assault rifle variants should have alternative modes of fire besides fully automatic. They can implement this by allowing for hip fire to be fully automatic and ADS(aim down sights) to switch to an alternative mode of fire. For example:
Assault Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: plasma grenades
Rail Rifle & Assault Rail Rifle Hip fire: uncharged, low damage, shorter range, fast rate of fire, fully automatic ADS: Charged, higher damage, long range, low rate of fire, fully automatic
Assault Scrambler Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: semi-automatic with charge shot capabilities
Assault Combat Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: 3 shot burst fire
If you are sick of the lack of variety of machine guns to choose from. If you support making assault rifles assault rifles. Sign/Bump this thread.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
552
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:36:00 -
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Will update weekly.
Signed by:
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:37:00 -
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like this post to sign the petition.
Current# of votes : 19k
My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
552
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:39:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:like this post to sign the petition.
Current# of votes : 19k Lol. But how will I collect their names from your likes.
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:42:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:General John Ripper wrote:like this post to sign the petition.
Current# of votes : 19k Lol. But how will I collect their names from your likes. I will compile a list.
My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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Alpha 443-6732
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:05:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:like this post to sign the petition.
Current# of votes : 19k this man is obviously telling the truth |
Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:10:00 -
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Signed
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:28:00 -
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I'd sign it but the suggestion does nothing for the issue being claimed.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:29:00 -
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I believe there's already a grenade launcher on the Plasma Rifle but we're too stupid to know how to fire it.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:29:00 -
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I hate petitions
Saying what's on people's minds
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:39:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I believe there's already a grenade launcher on the Plasma Rifle but we're too stupid to know how to fire it. Wouldn't that turn the Plasma Rifle into a Mass Driver with a Combat Rifle attached to it?
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:46:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Assault rifle variants should have alternative modes of fire besides fully automatic. They can implement this by allowing for hip fire to be fully automatic and ADS(aim down sights) to switch to an alternative mode of fire. For example:
Assault Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: plasma grenades
Rail Rifle & Assault Rail Rifle Hip fire: uncharged, low damage, shorter range, fast rate of fire, fully automatic ADS: Charged, higher damage, long range, low rate of fire, fully automatic
Assault Scrambler Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: semi-automatic with charge shot capabilities
Assault Combat Rifle Hip fire: fully automatic ADS: 3 shot burst fire People seem to be mistaking my example of how to make assault rifles assault rifles for what this is petition is asking for. If CCP listens to this petition, they'll figure out how to do it themselves. It would be terribly lazy to just follow an example given to them to the letter.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5579
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I believe there's already a grenade launcher on the Plasma Rifle but we're too stupid to know how to fire it. Wouldn't that turn the Plasma Rifle into a Mass Driver with a Combat Rifle attached to it? That's where you're mistaken.
It would be like a Plasma Rifle with a mini Plasma Cannon attached to it.
Neither of which had a "x is OP thread" ever/in the last three months.
Now, A combat Rifle with a Grenade launcher attached to it would be like a Mass Driver attached to a Combat Rifle.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1181
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:14:00 -
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I still want my riot gun from GORE : Ultimate Soldier.
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:29:00 -
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nice idea about different firing modes but they should need to mess with the ADS
Maybe map quick tap triangle to cycle firing modes or something |
medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:44:00 -
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1pawn dust wrote:nice idea about different firing modes but they should need to mess with the ADS
Maybe map quick tap triangle to cycle firing modes or something This is a good idea. And as stated, mine was only an example of how they could make assault rifles assault rifles.
Honestly, I like your idea more than my example.
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Argent Mordred
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:44:00 -
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The issue I see is that implementing a fire selector doesn't seem that useful. I like having the ability to change to semi in shooters, for example Crysis, Bf3, or America's Army 3/ AA: PG. But with the amount of health players have in most modern shooters, using semi-auto doesn't make sense, especially when the assault rifles are quite controllable on full auto at most ranges in game, unlike in reality. If such a feature did get implemented it would need it's own key, not a kludgy ADS to switch fire modes mechanic, maybe left dpad? |
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G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:45:00 -
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Don't even think about touching my Assault Combat rifle :P
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
556
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:06:00 -
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Argent Mordred wrote:The issue I see is that implementing a fire selector doesn't seem that useful. I like having the ability to change to semi in shooters, for example Crysis, Bf3, or America's Army 3/ AA: PG. But with the amount of health players have in most modern shooters, using semi-auto doesn't make sense, especially when the assault rifles are quite controllable on full auto at most ranges in game, unlike in reality. If such a feature did get implemented it would need it's own key, not a kludgy ADS to switch fire modes mechanic, maybe left dpad?
Semi-automatic weapons seem to do ok in Dust514.
Yes, assigning an actual button for switching modes of fire is a better idea.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
556
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:27:00 -
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Bump. Because the player base really needs to realize that taking a machine gun and labeling it assault rifle isn't right.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.09 07:26:00 -
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I kinda like the idea but honestly I'd rather they put back the old damage numbers for all rifles and reduce the ROF to bring the DPS to what it is now (and a bit more for the combat rifle, maybe rail rifle too).
The ridiculous ROF on the rifles is what makes them LMGs rather than rifles.
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Cinnamon267
131
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:29:00 -
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They aren't supposed to be AR's, though, I though.
Aren't they blaster rifles designed for close to medium range? Petition for a name change, instead. |
medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:05:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:They aren't supposed to be AR's, though, I though.
Aren't they blaster rifles designed for close to medium range? Petition for a name change, instead. You may want to change that to blaster or plasma machine gun instead. A machinegun with more range is still a machine gun.
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
358
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:20:00 -
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I spent 3 million SP on the AR and I want it to remain a fully automatic weapon. If you want a semi auto weapon, it has variations like the burst or tactical assaut rifles. Otherwise I do not understand your post. |
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