DUST Search - can anyone use the conscience transfer tech

Cruor Abominare wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

No anyone can utilise the implants we use for conscience transfer.
Its new technology ORGINALLY derived from Sleeper tech, however somewhere before we begin playing, implants were changed due to the fact clones had a tendemcy to go 'slightly' mad, the new tech is actually Amarrian.

However the Capusuleers (EvE players) still use an older form of technology, via the way of pods, this technology DID require a specific genetic marker to be used, the Amarrians dubbed those who became Capusuleers EMPYREIANS. It is likely they will move over to the new implant as well at some point. Currently Capusuleers are rarely seen outside of their pod, due to the fact they are only 'Immortal' while hooked up.

this isn't completely correct. Caps are quite frequently out of pods in chronicles and other lore. President roden of the gallente federation is empyrean. Dying outside of a pod isn't the end of the world your clone would still be able to wake up but when only have its memory up until its last scan.

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deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 646	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:04:00 - [1] - Quote or is just us genetically enhanced clone soldiers? or do you have to have some genetic trait? It'll help define roles, i promise:)
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2445	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:06:00 - [2] - Quote as far as i know, anyone, but i've been wrong before If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good. Proud member of RND
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 129	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:07:00 - [3] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: as far as i know, anyone, but i've been wrong before +1 for signature
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2445	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:09:00 - [4] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: as far as i know, anyone, but i've been wrong before +1 for signature haha, thanks. If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good. Proud member of RND
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 26	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:10:00 - [5] - Quote Not everyone has the mental fortitude to maintain a sense of self as an infomorph...I can't remember if there are genetic requirements...I'll post more when I get home and have my copy of Eve: Source. (If someone doesn't beat me to the punch).
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2441	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:14:00 - [6] - Quote No anyone can utilise the implants we use for conscience transfer. Its new technology ORGINALLY derived from Sleeper tech, however somewhere before we begin playing, implants were changed due to the fact clones had a tendemcy to go 'slightly' mad, the new tech is actually Amarrian. However the Capusuleers (EvE players) still use an older form of technology, via the way of pods, this technology DID require a specific genetic marker to be used, the Amarrians dubbed those who became Capusuleers EMPYREIANS. It is likely they will move over to the new implant as well at some point. Currently Capusuleers are rarely seen outside of their pod, due to the fact they are only 'Immortal' while hooked up. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1942	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:33:00 - [7] - Quote DUST vets have found that as a side effect of the transfer process any conscience they started with has been gradually but inexorably removed. Once honest warriors in the service of their people, they are all little more than monsters now - welcome to New Eden. I support SP rollover.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 647	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:41:00 - [8] - Quote so originally yes, but you also go bit crazy? It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4707	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:59:00 - [9] - Quote Anyone with implants and an ethernet cable shoved up their ass. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 26	Posted - 2014.04.09 00:25:00 - [10] - Quote Ok...Eve: Source has the requirements for Capsuleers, but not for Dust Mercs listed (they may be the same...but I would doubt it). Those requirements are Perfect Vision, Hearing, able to run 50 kilometeers without pause, no genetic defects or hereditary diseases, ninety-eighth percentile intelligence, a degree in a sufficiently advanced technical field, and the money/grants to pay for the necessary implants...

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1090	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:17:00 - [11] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: so originally yes, but you also go bit crazy? The clone has to be grown around the implant. Most people that are put in to be Immortals were already top notch soldiers. The "going crazy thing" is mostly because the Sleepers would take control of us and whisper suggestions in our ears that made us go a little coo-coo. In fact, DUST 514 even comes from the crazy mercs as they would continuously say "5 1 4" and I believe even write it in blood. My memory is really foggy though as I need to re-read Templar 1. Some people can actually never clone, such as the ex-leader of the Caldari State Tibus Heth (though it is a secret). Derj's Disease makes cloning impossible as the necessary brain scans are incomplete every time. Most people in New Eden never clone anyway. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9358	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:56:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No anyone can utilise the implants we use for conscience transfer. Its new technology ORGINALLY derived from Sleeper tech, however somewhere before we begin playing, implants were changed due to the fact clones had a tendemcy to go 'slightly' mad, the new tech is actually Amarrian. However the Capusuleers (EvE players) still use an older form of technology, via the way of pods, this technology DID require a specific genetic marker to be used, the Amarrians dubbed those who became Capusuleers EMPYREIANS. It is likely they will move over to the new implant as well at some point. Currently Capusuleers are rarely seen outside of their pod, due to the fact they are only 'Immortal' while hooked up. Many however still "Baseline" and walk around in their clones outside of the pods... its a pretty common thing for Empyreans to do these days...... most of the time you are free to go where you want and do what you want, sometimes even cultures see Empyrean as a social status.....in others like the Caldari State you are heavily restricted in where you can go. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 649	Posted - 2014.04.09 02:48:00 - [13] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: so originally yes, but you also go bit crazy? The clone has to be grown around the implant. Most people that are put in to be Immortals were already top notch soldiers. The "going crazy thing" is mostly because the Sleepers would take control of us and whisper suggestions in our ears that made us go a little coo-coo. In fact, DUST 514 even comes from the crazy mercs as they would continuously say "5 1 4" and I believe even write it in blood. My memory is really foggy though as I need to re-read Templar 1. Some people can actually never clone, such as the ex-leader of the Caldari State Tibus Heth (though it is a secret). Derj's Disease makes cloning impossible as the necessary brain scans are incomplete every time. Most people in New Eden never clone anyway. so do they use pods to initially transfer into a clone with the implant? It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1472	Posted - 2014.04.09 03:13:00 - [14] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: so do they use pods to initially transfer into a clone with the implant? When capsuleers get their implant for the first time, it is done within a lab. Your body gets scanned and cloned with the implant installed, and your consciousness is tranferred to that clone for the first time, killing your old body. After that, capsuleers have to be in their pods in order for their consciousness transfer to work. When the pod detects a breach in it's structure, the implant activates and makes a burst scan of your brain to be copied into the new clone. This scan also kills you instantly, and you wake up in the clone reanimation unit back in the station where you selected your medical clone. There is also the possibility of jump-cloning. You enter a clone vat and your brain gets scanned with a sllwer method, but without destroying your brain in the process, and your consciousness is transferred to another clone in some other station. Your previous body is still kept alive in the clone vat while you are in your jump clone. It is also possible for your jumpclone to have different atteibute boosting implants and looks, and supposedly an explanation to alts within EVE too, as this happened in the EVE: True Stories comic book. I'd take that with a grain of salt though. And then there's the traditional "soft cloning" which is accessible to everyone, even the lowliest of baseliner, provided they have the ISK. Your brain gets scanned within a lab and a clone is created with the scanned brain. When your body dies, this clone is activated. The drawback to this is that you will always have a gap in your memory from the point when your brain got last scanned, making the tech inferior to the tech capsuleers use. Finally there's us with our sleeper implant. We still don't know the specifics of how it works(unless EVE: Source has information about it, still need to get that book), but what is generally accepted that this implant can transfer to another clone instantly without the need for special equipment, even at the moment of death at any location. This is why the tech is superior to the capsuleer cloning tech, as they are forced to be in their pods to have their memory up-to-date when they die. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Apr. 1st
Cruor Abominare Horizons' Edge 112	Posted - 2014.04.09 03:22:00 - [15] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No anyone can utilise the implants we use for conscience transfer. Its new technology ORGINALLY derived from Sleeper tech, however somewhere before we begin playing, implants were changed due to the fact clones had a tendemcy to go 'slightly' mad, the new tech is actually Amarrian. However the Capusuleers (EvE players) still use an older form of technology, via the way of pods, this technology DID require a specific genetic marker to be used, the Amarrians dubbed those who became Capusuleers EMPYREIANS. It is likely they will move over to the new implant as well at some point. Currently Capusuleers are rarely seen outside of their pod, due to the fact they are only 'Immortal' while hooked up. this isn't completely correct. Caps are quite frequently out of pods in chronicles and other lore. President roden of the gallente federation is empyrean. Dying outside of a pod isn't the end of the world your clone would still be able to wake up but when only have its memory up until its last scan.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2447	Posted - 2014.04.09 09:45:00 - [16] - Quote Cruor Abominare wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No anyone can utilise the implants we use for conscience transfer. Its new technology ORGINALLY derived from Sleeper tech, however somewhere before we begin playing, implants were changed due to the fact clones had a tendemcy to go 'slightly' mad, the new tech is actually Amarrian. However the Capusuleers (EvE players) still use an older form of technology, via the way of pods, this technology DID require a specific genetic marker to be used, the Amarrians dubbed those who became Capusuleers EMPYREIANS. It is likely they will move over to the new implant as well at some point. Currently Capusuleers are rarely seen outside of their pod, due to the fact they are only 'Immortal' while hooked up. this isn't completely correct. Caps are quite frequently out of pods in chronicles and other lore. President roden of the gallente federation is empyrean. Dying outside of a pod isn't the end of the world your clone would still be able to wake up but when only have its memory up until its last scan. My apologies, my lore is a little rusty. That and it gave an excuse as to why EvE players never go further than there quarters. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.


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