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Assault Suits need a role bonus, not a % per lvl imo

All assault suits should say receive 20% clip size /20% bonus to bio mods / 20% rep mods

Something that makes them distinctive but not broke, its hard to define what an assault suit is with a year of tryhard logislayer abuse and now scout suits running around with more ehp than vehicles.

Define that role son.

I like where your head is at, but those bonus percentages are way too high. I'd dial them back to what their respective skills provide.

As a minmatar assault I strongly disagree with 5% bonus to damage mods that you suggest. All the other bonuses are defensive while a bonus to damage mods equates to very little extra damage, that is far outweighed by bonus to HP modules.

I'd actually prefer the extra bonuses to affect assaults passively.

Amarr +5% to base armor per lvl
Caldari +3% to base shields per lvl
Gallente +0.5 hp/s base armor repair per lvl
Minmatar - 3% shield delay and shield depleted delay per lvl

Or something like that. I tried to make each one so that it adds about a basic module (or a little more) at pro.

What do you think?

So, with 1.8, the standard for Dropsuit skills now seems to be trending towards the standard one role bonus per level, and also two racial role bonuses per level. Sentinels all get two separate damage resistances, Scouts all get a bonus to two separate stats, and Logis each get two different bonuses to their respective equipment. In fact it would seem that only Assaults and Commandos are stuck with the one bonus per level. Now, with Commandos, this actually makes sense to me; an argument can certainly be made that a direct damage bonus affecting multiple weapons (worth two Complex Damage Mods no less) is valuable enough to be "worth" two normal bonuses.

But I don't think anyone would call the current Assault bonuses anywhere near that useful overall. Therefore, I suggest following the new trend, and giving Assault suits a second bonus per level. Just as an idea, how about bringing back something similar to the "original" bonuses we first caught a glimpse of on Sisi way back? So something like:

Amarr: +5% to efficacy of armor plates per level.
Caldari: +5% to efficacy of shield extenders per level.
Gallente: +5% to efficacy of armor repairers per level.
Minmatar: +5% to efficacy of damage mods per level.

Of course these are more or less just my first ideas, and I'm open to suggestions.

Here's a more full-fledged attempt to solidly define the Assault suit's role.

I'm not necessarily against bonuses that just directly affect base stats (although those numbers seem a little wonky). It should also be noted that I avidly believe that Assault suits should have the most module slots of any suit in the game, and think that bonuses affecting specific modules would go well with this, as they could potentially fit the highest amount of their respective module.

As for your point on the suggested Minmatar bonus, I suppose it could just as easily be a bonus to Shield Rechargers instead. I guess I just thought that Damage Mods would be a little more interesting. And from what I'm told of Minmatar ships in Eve, they have the capability to just focus and speed and damage, more or less eschewing most of their tank.

Heres my take:

Assaults get 20% off weapon fittings per suit level.

Assault penalty: kin cat/card/myofrib

Logi get 20% off equipment per level.

Logi penalty: armor rep/sheild rep,reg

Scouts are actually fine imo.(lol@amarr)

Scout bonus 20% additional range on nova knives per level.

Sentinels get 20% ammo bonus/reload speed of heavy weapons per level.

Sentinel penalty: rep tool effectiveness

Commandos are fine imo.

Buff range/precission enhanceers by 20%.

Add all assault bonuses to basic suit once level 5 is reached for sake of visual variety.

Damage mods have damage/rate of fire increase.

Embrace/focisand encourage roles without hindrence or penalty to the actual role.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20% per level x 5 levels equals 100% off? ........

All these numbers are garbage.
i'd rather assaults stay as broke as they are now than have anyone in this threads numbers go through and ccp thinks they're "fixed" while they sit unused for a year.

Seriously all your numbers garbage and would be irrelevant.
Damage mod bonus's are irrelevant as damage mods suck total balls.
The hp bonus even as 5percent per shield extender also sucks balls as shield extenders are so crappy with tiny hp amounts. I had that on the callogi with 5 highs once...then it was as decent as other bonuses, but it still gets outperformed by the current uni logi bonus.

Overall assaults need a 25percent reduction to pg/cpu on all weapons and grenades along with
Cal 25percent extra shield ext efficiency
Gal 25percent extra armor rep efficiency or just a base 5 rep extra
Amarr 15 percent extra armor plate efficency
Minmatar straight 10 percent damage bonus to light weapons.

Seriously. Anything less than these and there is NO REASON to even use assaults again, because less than that and the logis are FAR better at assault. Heavies and sc
uts speak for themselves as outclassing mediums completely already.

Dude......

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5% per lvl equals 25% at proto... You pretty much just said all these numbers suck then provided the same numbers or worse numbers.. With the exception to minmatar.