Cotsy8
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Posted - 2014.04.08 18:52:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:From what I see in concept art, the racial knifes look pretty much the same. I've heard that the melee function was originally combined with the nova knife, so I guess that's why they look that way. If we were to still get racial knives, how would you want the Gallente, Amarr, and Minmatar versions to work?
Min NK - very low PG, added speed
Amarr NK - 2x to back stabs, added damage to medium frames
Cal NK - current bonus to charged attack
Gal NK - added Dampener effect when equipped, added dam to heavy frames. |
Cotsy8
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Posted - 2014.04.08 18:57:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I think the concept of racial knives is pointless. A knife is a knife; having 3 other ones that do basically the same thing (kill people at melee range) is redundant. At least the "Assault Rifles" all act completely different and have better ranges for them to operate at.
"Minmatar suit getting bonus to a Caldari weapon" fits Minmatar ideal of "we are going to use whatever we can because we must not lose." Making projectile weapons is a lot easier than a laser, plasma, or rail weapon. Why make a knife when someone else already has?
A knife is a knife is ******* stupid. Many militaries currently use a variety of knifes, some use long some use combat. Knifes have a very useful and tactical role throughout history. Whether it be adding it to the end of a weapon in the trenches, or using the knife to cut through thick jungle, or having a knife for thrusting or swiping. Knifes are very very different between countries, if you spent ten minutes and looked into it before you opened your ******* mouth maybe you wouldn't sound so stupid.
Now as we see this game is a futuristic game with plasma and energy and other "advanced tech" wouldn't you think the differences seen currently in military technology could result in different races carrying different knife In the future?! |
Cotsy8
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Posted - 2014.04.08 20:49:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cotsy8 wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I think the concept of racial knives is pointless. A knife is a knife; having 3 other ones that do basically the same thing (kill people at melee range) is redundant. At least the "Assault Rifles" all act completely different and have better ranges for them to operate at.
"Minmatar suit getting bonus to a Caldari weapon" fits Minmatar ideal of "we are going to use whatever we can because we must not lose." Making projectile weapons is a lot easier than a laser, plasma, or rail weapon. Why make a knife when someone else already has? A knife is a knife is ******* stupid. Many militaries currently use a variety of knifes, some use long some use combat. Knifes have a very useful and tactical role throughout history. Whether it be adding it to the end of a weapon in the trenches, or using the knife to cut through thick jungle, or having a knife for thrusting or swiping. Knifes are very very different between countries, if you spent ten minutes and looked into it before you opened your ******* mouth maybe you wouldn't sound so stupid. Now as we see this game is a futuristic game with plasma and energy and other "advanced tech" wouldn't you think the differences seen currently in military technology could result in different races carrying different knife In the future?! Someone is cranky today. Yes, different styles of knives are used across the world and serve a different purpose. However, how would a "kukri" differ from a "Ka-Bar" in game? You don't use it to cut rope, dig a hole, or as an eating utensil; it exists to kill people in melee range. Give Amarr a power glove puncher and it still kills people at melee range. It is just a reskinned weapon with a different tree.
I don't even know what the **** that lore or EVE **** is. I could care less what they are called, or how they are used in lore. Adding race weapons only makes sense to dust current model. Its a video game, make that **** up.
The point is that knifes are different, you can argue knifes kill people in melee range when by your logic guns kill people in gun range. But there are variant of guns, knifes, nades, land mines, etc etc etc. why not make those differences based on racial lines for dust video game, fictional, purposes.
Sure, if you want to give Amarr a Halo type knife with slightly more range, its fine. Whatever.
The point is you can't argue that knifes are knifes when clearly different militaries use different knifes. I can only assume this fictional game would do the same, have knifes based on race, especially since everything else is.
I cannot see how racial NK are a bad idea. So just like when you go to the movies, why not suspend your belief.
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