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Django Quik
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Posted - 2014.04.08 09:19:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:SirManBoy wrote:It's crazy that having a level 5 skill for precision enhancement and equipping three complex precision enhancers still isn't enough for my logi to see some scouts sneak up on me. According to protfits.com, that still only gets me down to 23.71db of scan precision detection, which does nothing for me against a cloaked scout.
By the way, does anyone know exactly how the math works with those modules? I figured the skill (-10% at level 5) and the three mods (-20% x 3 = -60%) would improve upon my base scan precision of 45db by 70%, which I thought would get me down to 13.5db, but it doesn't work out that way according to the proto fits website. Stacking penalty on scan mods. Really? Interesting. It seems to me that should definitely be removed or the efficacy of the mods should be greatly increased.
Percentage based mods are multiplied together, not added.
Stacking penalties apply to any percentage based mod - this will not be removed in any circumstances.
Precision mods could do with a buff to bring them in line with dampeners but no more than that.
Logis can scan scouts - with active scanners! Passive scan is for scouts. Active scanners are for logis - they are NOT useless just because you can't 360 perma scan anymore.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2014.04.08 09:20:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Sourdough Muffins wrote:Sounds like someone is a bit butthurt by the lack of 360 degree scanners. Sorry that Scouts actually fit their role now. If you are having trouble seeing them perhaps you should get your vision corrected? I'm sure a friendly Amarrian would be happy to perform Laz0r eye correction on you.  You're half right.... Active scanners got a nerf,but do you know what replaced them? It was taken from logis and given to scouts. 360 passive from a Cal Scout....the best part...it takes 0 equipment slots. At least the active took an equipment slot.
360 perma passive scan for ~50m =/= 360 perma active scan for 150m
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2014.04.08 10:05:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:It takes a logi with 4 complex precision enhancers to be able to see an un-damped cloaked scout. They are better off just using scanners instead, except that it takes a proto level scanner to see scouts, unless they decide to fit damps and then.... 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
A logi with 2 complex precision enhancers can see any non-gallente scout with one basic dampener. Normal proto active scanners can see any undampened non-gallente scout.
The proto focused scanner can see any gallente scout with one basic dampener and any non-gallente scout with less than a complex and enhanced dampener as well as detecting cloaked scouts with less than one enhanced dampener.
Gallente logis with scanners are even better!
Scouts would be utterly useless if they were easy to scan, which is one of the reasons we struggled so much pre-1.8.
Granted, I think there should be more options for the top end scanners and I disagree with the dampening effect of cloaks but keep in mind that that is only a temporary active dampening.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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