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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.08 02:41:00 -
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Would this be a problem, maybe in the past it would've, but considering that one alliance owns all the wealth (GOD I FEEL LIKE A 99% HIPPY) I don't see it as a problem now. using a third party to transfer eve isk to dust isk is creative and smart, but impractical for trust issues, ratios, etc...
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:20:00 -
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Well DELT I know you're anti one universe//one war, you want dust to be it's own game and have nothing to do with EVE and want to turn DUST into COD, but let's be realistic.
EVE and DUST both exist in New Eden, they should share similar things, like a market, and the ability for me to pay not only my own mercs but other mercs to do things for me :)
I'm a free market guy, and those of you who study the free market know that it eventually balances itself out. they need to open the market and let the isk flow, there's no reason why I shouldn't be paying mercs for their services with EVE isk.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Well DELT I know you're anti one universe//one war, you want dust to be it's own game and have nothing to do with EVE and want to turn DUST into COD, but let's be realistic.
EVE and DUST both exist in New Eden, they should share similar things, like a market, and the ability for me to pay not only my own mercs but other mercs to do things for me :)
I'm a free market guy, and those of you who study the free market know that it eventually balances itself out. they need to open the market and let the isk flow, there's no reason why I shouldn't be paying mercs for their services with EVE isk. I want a free market as well between Eve and Dust. Hell, that's part of CCP's 5-year plan as they announced back in Fanfest 2013. But being realistic here we know that this will take time. And the reason here has less to do with Eve hurting Dust and more to do with Dust hurting Eve if the Dust economy is implemented incorrectly. Keep in mind that Eve's economy is a huge beast that is delicate at the same time. Speculation, regional monopolies, economic interdictions, scamming, null-sec/low-sec warfare, mining, invention, production, freight deliveries, etc. all factor into the secondary market in both major and subtle ways in Eve. The point here is that Dust's economy needs to be done correctly and in phases. First phase should obviously let us do simple trade-window transactions between two players for those of us who like to sell our excess BPOs and unwanted officer gear. This phase should also deal with the issues present in Planetary Conquest. The next phase should bring in the early stages of resource gathering with maybe an implementation of Eve-Dust ISK transfers with Eve players handling the production side of things. The final phase should see the full implementation of the market window allowing Dust players to establish system-wide and region-wide markets with the ability to pay someone else to move it for them. But again, this is something best left to CCP's in-house economist who obviously has 10 years active experience with Eve Online monstrous economy.
On the other hand. They could put in buy orders, dust players could get bpo's and bpc's and make things by purchasing tritanium, they could use stations to build things, players with districts could manufacture them at cheaper cost.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.08 06:51:00 -
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really you don't think other people would fund their corps and still fight you?
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:21:00 -
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some of you people are a little bit too much tinfoil.
Let's look at this from the most obvious CCP perspective: Opening the market -> Dust players get EVE accounts -> Dust players spend money on plex to change to isk -> CCP makes money.
Then again I'm a free market kind of guy. It should be known that CCP will also intervene with the market if it becomes too unstable.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:18:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:Operative 2511 Dajli wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Would this be a problem, maybe in the past it would've, but considering that one alliance owns all the wealth (GOD I FEEL LIKE A 99% HIPPY) I don't see it as a problem now. using a third party to transfer eve isk to dust isk is creative and smart, but impractical for trust issues, ratios, etc... Holy crap YES it would be a problem. In addition to easily making millions in EVE just off of margin trading in Jita; I can also buy and sell PLEX for more fake fun money. We need a new currency for trading funds. Lore wise, New Eden already has another currency. The regular citizens don't use Isk. Isk is used by the various immortals, corporations and governments. If I remember correctly, each empire has it's own currency for every day use, for things like food and clothes and everything else the people who aren't buying ships and starbases need to buy. Something like that would have been ideal for Dust as we're not buying things on the scale of spaceships. Sure our expense are higher than the average citizen, but not that much higher.
If you want to bring up the idea of LORE, in EVE, capsuleers make isk, and they can give isk to whoever they want, so it makes no sense according to LORE why EVE players wouldn't be able to give dust players isk especially when dust players regularly spend it in game and make it in game. so you can take the LORE statement and shove it in the invalid statement box.
LORE is a huge flaw when it comes to New Eden. It's almost as if the people who wrote the lore never played the game.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:49:00 -
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But who wants to do proto's in pubs when they can now actively participate in PC? Launch attack after attack.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance.
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