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Cotsy8 wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

inb4CotsyQQing

Yup,

Why the **** are you using a Proto suit? When the PG concerns at at the advanced tier?

You say there are no PG issues, then show the wrong suit. Are you ******* serious? There's no issue with this because you've shown me something else. Great.

Try using an advanced fitting, or any of your builds and compare it to the other suits at advanced. They simply don't stack up, its close but due to NK (not all racial NK are released) not having a PG reduction skill, and the suit lacking maybe 1-2 more base PG, the suit is the worst at advanced.

The problem isn't at prototype, where you should be rocking two damps + kin cat. But at advanced where there is a 3-2 layout, its impossible to do what is asked of the suit or required to be successful. Whether they switch the slot layout to 2-3 at advanced or the suit will continue to lag behind. There is no doubt NK is more difficult than using another weapon because it requires to get into melee range, so speed and stealth are essential. This simply cannot happen given the two lows at advance tier. At prototype the suit stacks up in acceptable range.

Edit: its worth it to run two damps, staying off radar is the goal of an assassin. You don't want to be passively scanned ever, and since CCP is going to lower the damp on cloaks (it really looks like it) then it's nearly mandatory in order to stay off radar completely.

Also, try using a dif weapon than SG/CR with NK. Its very difficult. Which is also a drawback, but then again if you're not using NK whats the point of the suit?


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Eko Sol Strange Playings 171	Posted - 2014.04.16 20:51:00 - [1] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Awry Barux wrote: inb4CotsyQQing Yup, Why the ** are you using a Proto suit? When the PG concerns at at the advanced tier? You say there are no PG issues, then show the wrong suit. Are you ***** serious? There's no issue with this because you've shown me something else. Great. Try using an advanced fitting, or any of your builds and compare it to the other suits at advanced. They simply don't stack up, its close but due to NK (not all racial NK are released) not having a PG reduction skill, and the suit lacking maybe 1-2 more base PG, the suit is the worst at advanced. The problem isn't at prototype, where you should be rocking two damps + kin cat. But at advanced where there is a 3-2 layout, its impossible to do what is asked of the suit or required to be successful. Whether they switch the slot layout to 2-3 at advanced or the suit will continue to lag behind. There is no doubt NK is more difficult than using another weapon because it requires to get into melee range, so speed and stealth are essential. This simply cannot happen given the two lows at advance tier. At prototype the suit stacks up in acceptable range. Edit: its worth it to run two damps, staying off radar is the goal of an assassin. You don't want to be passively scanned ever, and since CCP is going to lower the damp on cloaks (it really looks like it) then it's nearly mandatory in order to stay off radar completely. Also, try using a dif weapon than SG/CR with NK. Its very difficult. Which is also a drawback, but then again if you're not using NK whats the point of the suit? I have multiple ADV fits and they work great. I have 5 skilled into the biotics skill so I get a passive 5% boost to speed and cardio Range/Dom Fit: 2x MLT Shields, 1 adv prec, 1x MLT Kinkat, 1x MLT cardio MLT AR (I'm skilled to 5 and 3 prof), Std Flaylock, Adv Packed AV Nades (for LAV's), Std RE's, RS-9 Uplinks NOTE: I spawn in and head straight for the null in dom. This is a dom specific fit. I use this to get around quickly early on. I expect to die in this one if I can't get to a supply depot quickly. If I have to I will come all of the way back to the base and change fits. That also keeps me out of the fire fight and ready to execute RE's ADV Brick RE fit 3x enhanced shields, 1 enhanced Damp, 1 basic reactive plate Adv ARR (gonna change this soon), Std/Adv Flaylock, Std Cloak, Std RE's ADV Speed Tank 2x enhanced light dmg mod, 1x Adv Prec Enhancers, 1x enhanced damp, 1x enhanced kin kat Adv ARR (again gonna change this), std/adv flaylock, Core Nade, Std Cloak (or RE's depending), I typically do a compact hive b/c I tend to run out of ammo if things go well Pure Brick Adv fit 3x enhanced shield, 1 enhanced shield reg, 1 enhanced armor plate Adv ARR (again gonna change this), Std/adv flaylock Core Nade, STD RE, Compact Hive (self Rep and Ammo) Logi Scout 3x enhanced shields, 1x basic reactive plate, 1x enhanced reactive plate SMG/MSMG, Flaylock, Flux nades, Injenctors, rep tool AV/RE Brick (note that this fit is pricy b/c of proto nades) 2x enhanced shields, 1x enhanced prec enhancers, 1x enhanced damp (avoid vehicle scans), 1x reactive plate or KinKat (I have to change some things if I want/need the extra speed) Adv ARR, Std/Adv Flaylock, Proto Packed AV Nades, Std. Cloak, std RE's Try those fits out if you really believe there are issues. Obviously the first one is sorta expected to die if I go up against a swarm of enemies by the time I get to the null but at least I got the uplinks down and stay cheap. The first one also catches people off guard because two packed nades take out LAV's without much of an issue. The splash damage has killed people before as well. It's just a precaution. I can't tell you how many times I saw an LAV coming in and just tossed the two nades and the guy freaks out and runs. It buys time. It also has come in handy in situations where a friendly tank is up against the enemy tank and I toss the two nades at the enemy and give us the edge. Note that killing an enemy tank off faster saves a reload for your teams tank which can be huge early on in a Dom match. All of the other fits work here. At the moment I am only skilled to 4 in min-scout. Once I am at 5 i'll have more room to play with in the PG and CPU. So imagine 4 electronics, 4 engineering, and 4 in min-scout and these fits work great.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 179	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:15:00 - [2] - Quote I still don't understand why people have problems running adv min-fits. No need for a CB just run kinkat, enhanced damp, and what you need in HS for varying situations. Also, be sure you like your LW and SA (Side Arm) and 2x EQ and Grenade. Experiment...no matter who you are. Just figure out what works. I have a fit that is: 2x complex shields, 1x Light Weapon Dmg Mod 1 basic armor rep, 1 enhanced armor armor plate OR Enhanced armor plate and damp 1 ADV Compat Assault Rifle, Adv. Flaylock, any nade you like (i.e. AV nade bc of RE's or Flux or locus) EQ = Cloack and Std. RE If you can't run amok with this then Min-Scout might not in your arsenal.