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straya fox
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:02:00 -
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If it's so good how come it is rarely ever used?
I skilled back into it out of stubbornness, not because it's 'great'. Not sure why you are making this thread but it's all wrong.
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straya fox
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:12:00 -
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I was just looking at your fit out- The Cal scout has same shield as you, same regen, same weapons, same dampening plus a cloak and is much faster and to top it off i have put nothing in the low slots of the cal scout yet...
edit- I forgot to mention the scanning, can't forget the scanning. |
Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:20:00 -
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straya fox wrote:I was just looking at your fit out- The Cal scout has same shield as you, same regen, same weapons, same dampening plus a cloak and is much faster and to top it off i have put nothing in the low slots of the cal scout yet...
first, your calscout has [email protected]/sec and [email protected]/sec?
second, your cloak lets you sneak up on people and kill them from the shadows, my CalAss has an insane reload bonus that lets me keep 5-6 people ducking in cover from a distance (yes, ive actually done this)
this entire post is because I don't want CCP to buff my CalAss suit, I want them to leave it as is
EDIT: as for scanning, sure, it helps with knowing if your gonna get jumped from behind, but that can be covered by basic assault tactics and a good old fashioned Mark 1 eyeball |
straya fox
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:27:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:straya fox wrote:I was just looking at your fit out- The Cal scout has same shield as you, same regen, same weapons, same dampening plus a cloak and is much faster and to top it off i have put nothing in the low slots of the cal scout yet... first, your calscout has [email protected]/sec and [email protected]/sec? second, your cloak lets you sneak up on people and kill them from the shadows, my CalAss has an insane reload bonus that lets me keep 5-6 people ducking in cover from a distance (yes, ive actually done this) this entire post is because I don't want CCP to buff my CalAss suit, I want them to leave it as is EDIT: as for scanning, sure, it helps with knowing if your gonna get jumped from behind, but that can be covered by basic assault tactics and a good old fashioned Mark 1 eyeball
Well 4 extenders in the Cal scout for highs so very similar shield, 50 p/s shield recharge inbuilt and i have put nothing in the low slots..
I only really run Cal assault and i am just completely in disagreement with you, not violently in disagreement but still enough to bother typing this out. |
Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:34:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:straya fox wrote:I was just looking at your fit out- The Cal scout has same shield as you, same regen, same weapons, same dampening plus a cloak and is much faster and to top it off i have put nothing in the low slots of the cal scout yet... first, your calscout has [email protected]/sec and [email protected]/sec? second, your cloak lets you sneak up on people and kill them from the shadows, my CalAss has an insane reload bonus that lets me keep 5-6 people ducking in cover from a distance (yes, ive actually done this) this entire post is because I don't want CCP to buff my CalAss suit, I want them to leave it as is EDIT: as for scanning, sure, it helps with knowing if your gonna get jumped from behind, but that can be covered by basic assault tactics and a good old fashioned Mark 1 eyeball Well 4 extenders in the Cal scout for highs so very similar shield, 50 p/s shield recharge inbuilt and i have put nothing in the low slots.. I only really run Cal assault and i am just completely in disagreement with you, not violently in disagreement but still enough to bother typing this out.
nothing wrong with that, what would you like to see happen to bring the CalAss in line with where you think it should be?
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straya fox
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:36:00 -
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I'm not entirely sure, but i feel it should be shield related. Regulation/ recharge etc on top of the reload bonus |
Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:41:00 -
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straya fox wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but i feel it should be shield related. Regulation/ recharge etc on top of the reload bonus
like a 2-5% bonus per lv to shield extenders/reguators
or perhaps a 3% reduction to the CPU costs of shield modules
I feel that if there were a bonus to shield regen mods, it might go to the minmatar, they do the high speed stuff, cald is more about shield capacity |
straya fox
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:46:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:straya fox wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but i feel it should be shield related. Regulation/ recharge etc on top of the reload bonus like a 2-5% bonus per lv to shield extenders/reguators or perhaps a 3% reduction to the CPU costs of shield modules I feel that if there were a bonus to shield regen mods, it might go to the minmatar, they do the high speed stuff, cald is more about shield capacity
Yeah regulation and efficacy of extenders would be good |
Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:53:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:straya fox wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but i feel it should be shield related. Regulation/ recharge etc on top of the reload bonus like a 2-5% bonus per lv to shield extenders/reguators or perhaps a 3% reduction to the CPU costs of shield modules I feel that if there were a bonus to shield regen mods, it might go to the minmatar, they do the high speed stuff, cald is more about shield capacity Yeah regulation and efficacy of extenders would be good
im ok with this, but only if we get to keep the suit as is still, pg/cpu reduction and the reload speed bonus
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.07 11:15:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Denn Maell wrote:Supposively, when 1.8 hit CCP was changing around slot layout/fitting stats. The Mediums didn't make it into the line up. If you compare the light suits and heavy suit layouts and PG/CPU numbers, you see a pattern that I expect them to continue with the Mediums.
Off Topic @ OP: Been thinking of the Cal Assault myself, despite the forum hate that reload speed for the weapon types I like does seem very attractive to meGǪ It is a secret that all use Cal Assaults love the new reload speed there is nothing like blazeing thru 4 redots with a proto rail rifle and a proto magsec hop in the air in a gun fight reload your guns and killing 4 more redots strafeing like a mofo. little secret take them armor plates off and free yourself to move across the battle amen brother dont need dem plates. profile damp is where its at. makes flanking so sweet, and keeps you off of vehicle scans, always a + Yes people don't understand the strafeing ability of this suit and armor plates give a big negative to your strafeing i use one ferascale a complex reg and a armor rep.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Kaughst
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.07 11:28:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Supposively, when 1.8 hit CCP was changing around slot layout/fitting stats. The Mediums didn't make it into the line up. If you compare the light suits and heavy suit layouts and PG/CPU numbers, you see a pattern that I expect them to continue with the Mediums.
Off Topic @ OP: Been thinking of the Cal Assault myself, despite the forum hate that reload speed for the weapon types I like does seem very attractive to meGǪ
I have noticed the pattern as well, although I was not sure what the hypothetical stats were. Do you have anything in mind?
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Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:59:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:Denn Maell wrote:Supposively, when 1.8 hit CCP was changing around slot layout/fitting stats. The Mediums didn't make it into the line up. If you compare the light suits and heavy suit layouts and PG/CPU numbers, you see a pattern that I expect them to continue with the Mediums.
Off Topic @ OP: Been thinking of the Cal Assault myself, despite the forum hate that reload speed for the weapon types I like does seem very attractive to meGǪ I have noticed the pattern as well, although I was not sure what the hypothetical stats were. Do you have anything in mind?
I would be cuirous to find out what some hypothetical slot layouts might be also. asit stands now though, don't touch my CalAss, shes just the way I like her right now. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.04.07 14:03:00 -
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Glad to hear someone likes it. I keep saying again and again how much the reload bonus makes sense considering that the Caldari's weapon favor mid-range battles over CQC. If you're caught in CQC you're at a major disadvantage, so you want to be able to reload fast enough that the enemy can't just run up on you(which is what I would do) when you need to change clips.
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Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.04.07 15:08:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Glad to hear someone likes it. I keep saying again and again how much the reload bonus makes sense considering that the Caldari's weapon favor mid-range battles over CQC. If you're caught in CQC you're at a major disadvantage, so you want to be able to reload fast enough that the enemy can't just run up on you(which is what I would do) when you need to change clips.
absolutely, i enjoying emptying my second mag by the time my oponent is done reloading his first |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.13 16:40:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:Denn Maell wrote:Supposively, when 1.8 hit CCP was changing around slot layout/fitting stats. The Mediums didn't make it into the line up. If you compare the light suits and heavy suit layouts and PG/CPU numbers, you see a pattern that I expect them to continue with the Mediums.
Off Topic @ OP: Been thinking of the Cal Assault myself, despite the forum hate that reload speed for the weapon types I like does seem very attractive to meGǪ I have noticed the pattern as well, although I was not sure what the hypothetical stats were. Do you have anything in mind?
Generally speaking, it looks like the preference for high slots/low slots on scouts and heavies are being shifted somewhat. I think we will see something like the Caldari sporting what used to be the minmatar setup with many more highs than lows. Minmatar look to be more balanced with slightly more highs than lows (fitting as the description says they are more versatile, and will allow minassault to sport more in their lows for speed and profile).
Gallente look to be getting very low-slot heavy while Amarr look to be a reversed Minmatar (fairly balanced but more lows than highs; CCP is thinking they should armor tank and use damage mods I guess).
These are just some general guesses of where I think the Assaults are going, not necessarily what I would like to see. No clue how to guess the Logi suits, tho.
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:27:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is
Is that just Cal assault lvl 5? or is that with reload skill maxed aswell?
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Boot Booter
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:38:00 -
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Well I have a minmatar assault and I am as well loving the suit the way it is (except for those two lows, you Caldari don't realize how good you have it). Anyway, although I like the suit right now I still think assaults need another racial bonus. All the other suits have two, why shouldn't we? This being said it shouldn't be anything ground breaking as to make assaults OP. I'd recommend something passive, like the scouts have, except for assaults it would improve suit regen. Honestly though at 30 mil sp every suit I use is good, so I don't care as long as I still keep my precious 100 round clip SMG.
In case anyone is interested here's the added assault bonus I have suggested before.
Amarr: +0.75 hp/s armor repair per lvl, - 2% shield delay and depleted delay per lvl
Caldari: +10% shield recharge per lvl
Gallente +1 hp/s armor repair per lvl
Minmatar: - 4% shield delay and depleted delay per lvl, +0.4 hp/s armor repair per lvl
(maybe these would be OP though... What do I know though)
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Tau Lai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 23:34:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:I have been hearing rumors for some time now about an incoming buff to the assault suits. As a dedicated assault player, i have but one thing to ask of CCP.
1. Please, for the love of all that is that is holy in New Eden, DO NOT buff my Caldari Assault Suit.
Thats all i want. Buff Minmatar, Gallente, and Amarr all you want. give them OP stats, OP passives, OP slot layout, I dont care. But please please please, don't touch my Caldari Assault. I like it just the way it is. The new bonuses from 1.8 make it feel good to use, and really fun to.
So yes, in closing, and one more time, NO TOUCHY CCP. Seriously, hands off my C-1, C/1, and ck.0. I don't want a buff. I see what you did there.
Good thinking , +1.(For the turds: If it gets buffed, no matter how balanced it is, people will QQ and it will end up Heavily nerfed)Well played. lolz, while i agree with the #heavynerf theory, im serious in my not wanting the buff to my cald suits. i like the slot layout just the way it is, LOVE the bonuses from skilling into lv5, and have enough PG and CPU to fit everything id ever want to. it doesnt need a buff. it feels very solid just the way it is. Soo... you DO want the caldari assault suit not to be touched (blink, blink), I see. Please CCP, do NOT buff the caldari assault suit. Blink.
:) you are welcome.
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Tau Lai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 23:43:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is Maybe increasing one slot in assault suits should bring this class to play. Since no one uses it anymore, cause it sucks.
Really, why would you use an assault suit being able to use a brick scout or a tank heavy? Insane!
I can see you
Buy a tank
Buy an assault dropship
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.15 03:41:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is What about all the other weapons? The original uprising 1.0 bonus was better. Reload speed for all weapons.
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Paladin Sas
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
334
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:31:00 -
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Tau Lai wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is Maybe increasing one slot in assault suits should bring this class to play. Since no one uses it anymore, cause it sucks. Really, why would you use an assault suit being able to use a brick scout or a tank heavy? Insane!
i use an assault suit because it is my bread and butter. i can always rely on it to be decent in any given situation. heavies are to slow for my style, and i dont feel comfortable in a scout, even if it is brick tanked. been an assault player since feb 2012, no need to change now |
Paladin Sas
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
334
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:32:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is What about all the other weapons? The original uprising 1.0 bonus was better. Reload speed for all weapons.
the uprising 1.0 bonus was nice, but i like that keeping it to rail tech helps with making it "feel" more caldari |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:48:00 -
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Tau Lai wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is Maybe increasing one slot in assault suits should bring this class to play. Since no one uses it anymore, cause it sucks. Really, why would you use an assault suit being able to use a brick scout or a tank heavy? Insane! because some of us have the skill to pull it off without needing a crutch to get a kill.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Paladin Sas
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
334
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:47:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Tau Lai wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I just want a better caldari suit bonus... nonononono, please oh god no, its perfect just the way it is. my RR has a reload speed of 2.04 seconds the magsec reloads in 1.91 seconds. its insanely fast, leave it as is Maybe increasing one slot in assault suits should bring this class to play. Since no one uses it anymore, cause it sucks. Really, why would you use an assault suit being able to use a brick scout or a tank heavy? Insane! because some of us have the skill to pull it off without needing a crutch to get a kill.
this, right here.
please don't buff the assault class CCP, we're just fine the way we are. except gallente, i don't think their happy with their racial bonus.
(any gallente assaults out there feel free to interject and ill be more than happy to add you to the "do not buff list" if you feel your racial bonus is useful) |
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