Eh, the stale AR514 paradigm finally changed into something fun.

Breath in and smell the ashes.

Ive specced up until proto into min logi also, but since there-¦s so much shit to do and try out, I did not play logi once since update hit.
Going full generalist is helluva fun.

I dont think scouts are op ... you can very easily see them even when cloaked, and can very quickly burst them down. i should know, i have gallente scout proto and ishukone cloak :P My suits cost a truck tonne of isk each, and I get burst down by heavies like a MLT scout to a boundless hmg.

you just need to be more aware of your surrounding, avoid getting trapped in killzones, and remain effective and vigilant. that, or go easy mode and pull out a sica with a blaster turret ...

What did you expect? You picked the medic suit. You might as well wear a big target sandwich-board saying "kill me first!". It sounds to me like you picked a role you don't actually want- as a Min Logi, repping heavies is your one and only real battlefield role, in the same way that spewing bullets is the heavy's only role. If you don't consistently have good heavies to work with, you're gonna have a bad time.

You should have put careful thought into your 1.8 skill choices. You already got all your dropsuit SP refunded, but you went right back to being a logi and it sounds like you expected to still be both a support unit and a solid front-line combat suit. That's not how role-based combat works. BrickedSlayerLogi514 is over, and none too soon. Get with the times. To have great repping power, you have to sacrifice your offense and solo viability.

tl;dr you specialized wrong and now you come crying to forums for another respec mere weeks after getting one? I have no sympathy.

lmao2cats.
Fly like a butterfly, sting like a motherfucker.

Or buffer tank. A buffer tanked mk.0 with an assault scrambler is a force of nature to behold.

No defense? You can still stack upwards of 800 EHP, and wield a light weapon like everyone else. Heck, grab a shotgun, they'll OHK 99% of scouts coming at you. However, your main form of defense comes from the heavy you're following around, his 600 DPS HMG, and the extreme difficulty of killing said heavy while you're repping it.

As for buffing your scan precision, no- scanning is a Cal Scout's job passively and a Gal Logi's job actively. This is a role-based game: if you need scans, bring a scanning class. Alternately, try using situational awareness. Scouts aren't hard to see, even when cloaked, and a good pocket heavy will melt them in less than the time it takes get a second shotgun round off.

I've seen plenty of effective Min Logis on the battlefield in 1.8, putting up solid scores and being a huge force multiplier for their squad/team. Plenty of logis are doing their jobs- not as easily as before, but still doing it well. Try harder?

No defense? You can still stack upwards of 800 EHP, and wield a light weapon like everyone else. Heck, grab a shotgun, they'll OHK 99% of scouts coming at you. However, your main form of defense comes from the heavy you're following around, his 600 DPS HMG, and the extreme difficulty of killing said heavy while you're repping it.

Uh, no? Incorrect, see below, for maximizing survivability and anti-scout capabilities while still having the holy trinity of logi equipment. edit: You can increase your tank to over 1k EHP if you're coordinating with another logi and spider-tanking, by swapping the complex repper for a complex plate. Your speed is unimportant since you'll always be way faster than the heavy.

'Neo' Logistics mk.0
CPU 477.5375 / 511.875 gF
PG 101.25 / 102.375 kW
Shield 112.5 [402.9] HP
Armor 187.5 [495.5] HP
No icon eHP 300 [898.4] HP
Shield Recharge Rate 20 HP/s
Shield Recharge Delay 5 s
Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 6 [7.86] s
Armor Repair Rate 0 [6.25] HP/s
Movement Speed 5 [4.66] m/s
Strafe Speed 4.5 [4.19] m/s
Sprint Speed 7.35 [6.85] m/s


'Neo' Logistics mk.0 35,250
Complex Shield Extender 4,275
Complex Shield Extender 4,275
Complex Shield Extender 4,275
Complex Shield Extender 4,275
Complex Armor Repairer 5,595
'Goliath' Basic Armor Plates 900
'Goliath' Basic Armor Plates 900
'Samson' Enhanced Armor Plates 2,415
RS-90 Combat Rifle 10,770
M1 Locus Grenade 1,200
Core Focused Repair Tool 35,415
KIN-012 Nanite Injector 2,625
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive 28,335
Duvolle Focused Active Scanner 30,915
ISK Estimated Cost: ~ 171,420

On proto fits it seems on a MK.0 You can fit 4 complex shield extenders, 3 complex damps, 1 complex cpu, a prototype repair tool, a prototype nanohive, and an advance cloak, while running an advance combat rifle.

With the cloak you get a signature of 17 (which beats 2 precision modded cal scouts), your shields are around 400, and your armor is just shy of 200.

Or if your not paranoid, you can drop the third damp in favor of a pg upgrade, you sig goes up to 20 with the cloak (only have to worry about 2 precision modded cal scouts), and you can throw on a proto nanite injector.


Doesn't seem like too bad of a scenario.


I agree with you that the assaults are lacking though.