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I-Shayz-I I-----I 2830	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:44:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107482&find=unread ^ Picture of the skirmish version of this map I really don't like this map at all. It's 850 meters from a base spawn location to the farthest objective, vehicles are almost mandatory, and you spend more time moving around the map than you do in combat. It's also one of the few maps that doesn't actually have any randomized sockets. B is always the same building, C is always underground, etc. The point is, until we get bigger matches there's no reason to have this map in circulation, at least not in its current state. So here's a rough version of what this map might look like on a smaller scale: http://imgur.com/mZ9UCj1 It can stay a 4 point map (just remove E) but the king of the hill in the middle from domination just begs for it to be its own objective. If anything else, the ledge above E needs to be removed. E is much more fun to play as a king of the hill kind of style instead of a who can fly their dropship the highest on the tower. At least put a ladder on the backside to give players a way to climb up on that ledge without a dropship Finally, all of the sockets need to randomize. Thoughts? Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:48:00 - [2] - Quote fracture road is too stupid thats what it is, its an awful map, that scaled down version picture you got there is pretty decent though But boss, we can already see his bing bong, and his habby flabby babby.
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4631	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:52:00 - [3] - Quote It's a good size. Meanwhile, manus peak is too small. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4439	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:03:00 - [4] - Quote I've hated fractured road since the day it was released. It's far too big. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Jaster J F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 26	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:09:00 - [5] - Quote I find Objective B always has good fights around it. The other ones always seem to be more of the sneak in and grab it kind of place. While i like to hang around B, i suppose the rest makes for good map diversity. Although i do like the look of your version too :)
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4631	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:23:00 - [6] - Quote The map size is good because it discourages zerg tactics, which everyone seems to love. I'm from the weird side of the internet
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 116	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:28:00 - [7] - Quote No, it's a great map. I don't think it's as big as the one with a huge crater and a bridge above it.. Fracture road is good for dropships and LAVs with shock troops. And as someone said before, it has great diversity between every objective, you can (must) attack them in different ways. Even running it doesn't feel too big. But this game has vehicles, we have to use them, especially in these new big maps. They're not designed to run across on foot. I do dislike it in domination mode though, it's very uncomfortable.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7921	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:34:00 - [8] - Quote It's one of my absolute favorite maps actually, and it's because of how big it is. Everyone can't simply be everywhere at once (part of why Ashlands is my least favorite map, you can get to anywhere from anywhere too easily). Having a very large map like Fractured Road means you actually have to put thought into battle tactics opposed to "everybody rush this objective!" Amarr are the good guys.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 181	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:36:00 - [9] - Quote A scaled down version would be nice but the domination variant is so bad. It just rolls down to who can hold the pipes which shouldnt even exist, the thing in the middle should be a small room with the control panel inside it.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7921	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:38:00 - [10] - Quote JP Acuna wrote: No, it's a great map. I don't think it's as big as the one with a huge crater and a bridge above it.. Fracture road is good for dropships and LAVs with shock troops. And as someone said before, it has great diversity between every objective, you can (must) attack them in different ways. Even running it doesn't feel too big. But this game has vehicles, we have to use them, especially in these new big maps. They're not designed to run across on foot. I do dislike it in domination mode though, it's very uncomfortable. Border Gulch is the map you're referencing, which is my absolute favorite because it is massive just like Fractured Road but also has obstacles to direct movement (for instance if you have an HAV at Bravo and need to get to Alpha, you must travel near either Charlie or Echo, move up to Delta, and then go to Alpha) whereas infantry can directly move up the stairs from Bravo o Alpha. Really, really cool stuff. And yes I agree Fractured Road in Domination is very frustrating, mostly because of the ledge that overlooks the objective. Amarr are the good guys.

C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 771	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:47:00 - [11] - Quote Randomised sockets need to be on every map. Period. // Fully Specced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guard Director //
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7924	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:56:00 - [12] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Randomised sockets need to be on every map. Period. Can't agree more. I hate that Fractured Road and Border Gulch don't mix up the sockets and Manus Peak doesn't use any of the new(ish) Gallente sockets. Amarr are the good guys.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 679	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:07:00 - [13] - Quote Fracture road sucks. whoever came up with domination for it should be fired now. The pipes and ledge break it. even a ladder wouldn't help. You need staircases on the ledge so it can be assaulted and ladders on every pilon leading down the pipes because that's where the uplinks are. whole thing needs to be removed. Really stupid decision. Rest of the map I kind of like. Except bravo because you get losers camping on top of everything just like domination which is a stupid design decision with that socket that also needs to be fixed. The north and southern part of the map need to be higher elevation instead of dropping off like a cliff. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 509	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:15:00 - [14] - Quote no its not. just use a damm lav. or hunker dow and defend an objective. stop trying to control the map on foot it doesnt work. thosse pipe pylons and roofs are horribley exposed. and if you cant land on b's roof you really need to practice flying. this is actully one of the better maps because as long as your not on one of the roofs or that tower redline snipers cant target you. its actully one of the best maps for av as well. with numerous postions you can have a wide field of view from. tankers in corp enjoy it as much as the infantry. with some of our favourite fights being there. skills are not being applied till 30 secs after spawn fixes before nerfs thank you.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1511	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:25:00 - [15] - Quote I love Fracture Road. Though I do feel that C and D are a bit too far out and they almost never see much combat unless one of the teams is redlined. And it's always the case where the west team gets redlined; I've never seen the eastern team get redlined. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Jenza's Pants The Hetairoi 148	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:01:00 - [16] - Quote buff match sizes instead of nerfing maps. lol silly ps3..
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 214	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:15:00 - [17] - Quote Just rotate the D and C sockets and scale it down, I really like the "king of the hill" objective. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 417	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:28:00 - [18] - Quote that ledge above "E" shakes fist violently I REEAAAAAAAAALLLLLLY hate that spot. its should be a no merc/dropship zone. it dictates the entire gameplay for dom matches.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2597	Posted - 2014.04.05 23:27:00 - [19] - Quote Fracture road skirmish can be decent, but yeah the sockets need to change once in a while. Fracture road dom and whoever thought under the central pylon was the best place to put the objective can BURN BURN BURN IN FCKING HELL FOR ETERNITY though. You many not be able to tell, but I do not like that map. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"* -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION 47	Posted - 2014.04.05 23:30:00 - [20] - Quote I say screw it, 64 vs 64, lets go all out warfare with this crap, expand the field to 10 points. Have some real fun :D G.L.O.R.Y solider, Master of the Heavy



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