DUST Search - Caldari have the same amount of sidearms

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Auris Lionesse wrote:

my quote is being wonky on ny phone at the moment.
1. I don't think the laser rifle is a sniper rifle. It's more of a secondary main rifle. Like an ar or rail.

2. You said artillery is anything indirect support fire. Meaning a mortar is artillery. And I went further saying minmatar are Ailey artillery. he said that not the criteria of artillery. By your logic it is.

3. This is for jacques. I don't see why were getting a mythical artillery piece (that you allege every race will be getting) rather than an up close blaster, a long range rail, or a drone type weapon because nothing about mortars says gallente. If anyone gets a mortar first again it should be minmatar not gallente. It's not our thing.
I'd like to see one reason why gallente simply must have a mortar because it's so quintessential to our playing style. ya know... Cause it's not.
Also we're mercenaries, not military. not sure why we'd need artillery for 16v16 when there's not even bunkers or destroyable structures.

Ccp has plans to make the player count larger. And as far as why gap get mortar first? Maybe they just threw the plasma cannon stats on the weapon tweaked it then said here's their heavy weapon. Ask ccp idk. As far as we aren't military that's true but what do we use? We use MILITARY grade weapons. Not civilian weapons not nerf guns but different factions military weapons. Gallente amarr and Minmatar will all get sniper rifles and pistols SMG's ect ect. We all are gonna get a variation of each. Stop whining ccp does what they want without are consent anyways.

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Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 669	Posted - 2014.04.05 10:19:00 - [1] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: We need a heavy laser sniper cannon that one shots everything. That and a minmatar mortar Gallente are getting a mortar because lol ccp lol Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 669	Posted - 2014.04.05 10:21:00 - [2] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Akdhar Saif wrote: We need a heavy laser sniper cannon that one shots everything. That and a minmatar mortar Mortar is gallente It should be minmatar. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 669	Posted - 2014.04.05 11:16:00 - [3] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: SUMMING UP THIS THREAD SO FAR (and adding my own point) Caldari Sidearms: Bolt Pistol Nova Knives Magsec Amarr weapons: Laser Rifle Scrambler Rifle Scrambler Pistol Amarr secret weapon: Faith Caldari secret weapon: ISK efficiency Caldari vehicles: LAV HAV Dropship Amarr vehicles: lolno Winner: BOTH. They're allies against the Gallente and Minmatar. Nah gallente hate minmatar too. Don't lump us in because factional is all wonky. Freedom apples to humans, so anyone but minmatar. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 670	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:03:00 - [4] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Akdhar Saif wrote: We need a heavy laser sniper cannon that one shots everything. That and a minmatar mortar Gallente are getting a mortar because lol ccp lol For all of you going "hurr, mortar can't be Gallente, lul, CCP, durr," what makes a mortar a mortar is it's high fire angle and low velocity of it's projectiles. A heavy weapon that fires big globs of plasma (like the PLC's projectile) in a high arc would be a mortar. While "artillery" is the official designation of the Minmatar long-range weapon system in EVE, artillery is any sort of indirect support fire, which is not the exclusive domain of the Minmatar. Mortars fire indirectly making it artillery. And yeah it kind of is solely minmatar. I'm pretty sure there's no ships in gallente caldari or amarr that have a projectile bonus. Unless you count a pirate ship. I haven't gone through every description of every ship but none come to mind so artillery is actually solely minmatar. gallente use hybrid weapons or drones. Meaning rail or blaster. Dust giving caldari the only rail bonuses is an idiosyncrasy Someone correct me if you know a non minmatar ship with projectile bonuses. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 670	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:13:00 - [5] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: While "artillery" is the official designation of the Minmatar long-range weapon system in EVE, artillery is any sort of indirect support fire, which is not the exclusive domain of the Minmatar. Mortars fire indirectly making it artillery. And yeah it kind of is solely minmatar. I'm pretty sure there's no ships in gallente caldari or amarr that have a projectile bonus. Unless you count a pirate ship. I haven't gone through every description of every ship but none come to mind so artillery is actually solely minmatar. gallente use hybrid weapons or drones. Meaning rail or blaster. Dust giving caldari the only rail bonuses is an idiosyncrasy Someone correct me if you know a non minmatar ship with projectile bonuses. .... I've gone through every gallente ship just about and not one has projectile bonuses. Mortar doesn't make any sense as a gallente weapon. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 670	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:20:00 - [6] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: In fact, the Caldari have all their weapons now, don't they? Their pistol Thier SMG Their Knife Their Precison/Sniper weapon Their Fine Rifle Their Grenade Their Light AV/Launcher Their Heavy Weapon (CCP only have 1 planned per race atm) Then they also have all their vehicles (of those types currently in the game) And now they have all their dropsuits. Not to mention 3 kinds of equipment. And an MCC and dropoff ship/drone. I'd say that the Caldari are done, everybody! Fully fleshed out! Congrat ulations to all our Caldari specialists. You guys got 1st place in the Race race! They don't have a shotgun or a wacky long range laser rifle type weapon. Plus they need more missile weapons so gallente can use rails too Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 670	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:31:00 - [7] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Actually indirect fire is not a requirement for a weapon to be classified as artillery as far as I know I'm just going by his logic. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 671	Posted - 2014.04.05 14:00:00 - [8] - Quote my quote is being wonky on ny phone at the moment. 1. I don't think the laser rifle is a sniper rifle. It's more of a secondary main rifle. Like an ar or rail. 2. You said artillery is anything indirect support fire. Meaning a mortar is artillery. And I went further saying minmatar are Ailey artillery. he said that not the criteria of artillery. By your logic it is. 3. This is for jacques. I don't see why were getting a mythical artillery piece (that you allege every race will be getting) rather than an up close blaster, a long range rail, or a drone type weapon because nothing about mortars says gallente. If anyone gets a mortar first again it should be minmatar not gallente. It's not our thing. I'd like to see one reason why gallente simply must have a mortar because it's so quintessential to our playing style. ya know... Cause it's not. Also we're mercenaries, not military. not sure why we'd need artillery for 16v16 when there's not even bunkers or destroyable structures. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 671	Posted - 2014.04.05 14:42:00 - [9] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: my quote is being wonky on ny phone at the moment. 1. I don't think the laser rifle is a sniper rifle. It's more of a secondary main rifle. Like an ar or rail. 2. You said artillery is anything indirect support fire. Meaning a mortar is artillery. And I went further saying minmatar are Ailey artillery. he said that not the criteria of artillery. By your logic it is. 3. This is for jacques. I don't see why were getting a mythical artillery piece (that you allege every race will be getting) rather than an up close blaster, a long range rail, or a drone type weapon because nothing about mortars says gallente. If anyone gets a mortar first again it should be minmatar not gallente. It's not our thing. I'd like to see one reason why gallente simply must have a mortar because it's so quintessential to our playing style. ya know... Cause it's not. Also we're mercenaries, not military. not sure why we'd need artillery for 16v16 when there's not even bunkers or destroyable structures. Ccp has plans to make the player count larger. And as far as why gap get mortar first? Maybe they just threw the plasma cannon stats on the weapon tweaked it then said here's their heavy weapon. Ask ccp idk. As far as we aren't military that's true but what do we use? We use MILITARY grade weapons. Not civilian weapons not nerf guns but different factions military weapons. Gallente amarr and Minmatar will all get sniper rifles and pistols SMG's ect ect. We all are gonna get a variation of each. Stop whining ccp does what they want without are consent anyways. No I dont want to sit idly by and say good job ccp when they're making stupid decisions. Do it right or not at all. Gallente don't need a mortar. If anyone gets one it should be minmatar not that anyone needs a mortar at all because it'd be useless. Orbitals can't hit people on half of most maps already. I haven't played 1.8 so as far as i know it hasnt been changed but you can barely even orbital people out of the perch on fracture road domination. What good is a mortar going to be. Ccp having plans to increase player count says as much as me having plans to visit Saturn one day. There should have been no player cap from day one. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 679	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:32:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: To repeat what the LolDari said , This is not space dammit. If you expect one race not to have a sniper rifle or long range support weapon, in any form, because it doesn't fit "their playstyle" then you are dead wrong. This is infantry ***********, this is DUST 514. I am a penguin. I never said any of that. I expect every race to have a racially themed sniper rifle. I don't recall even mentioning sniper rifles in this thread but whatever. A mortar is minmatar tech it should be a minmatar weapon if a mortar is introduced to dust. They have a grenade launcher amd a Mortar isn't far off. Gallante and amarr need basic heavy weapons before we start thinking about support. If you think I said gallente shouldn't have any long range support weapon you should learn to read. I'm saying gallente should not have a mortar as long range support. Gallente would use a rail for long range not a mortar. gal need a close range heavy weapon before a long range support. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank!* *TURTLE POWER!!!*