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spike2000 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 37	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:30:00 - [1] - Quote Ask any proto good tanker in the game . Tankers gett killed more by militia dmg mod rail tanks than anything else . a proto freeking tank should now have to wrorry about a sica with armor plate , armor hardener, with double dmg mods. remove miltia tanks completely.. You shouldnt be able to run around with a tank our not skilled into and get 30 kills or more. Remove militia tanks .. ccp you arent listening to your vet players who have put real money into this game. Armor tanks got crapped on because of their cpu reduction and hardeners resistance is trash.... REMOVE FREEKING MILITIA TANKS AND REDUCE DMGE MODS . IV BEEN PLAYING OVER A YEAR AND IV THOUGHT ABOUT DELETING THIS GAME MULTIPLE TIMES THIS WEEK DUE TO THIS BULL CRAP. Stop ignoring your vet player who know what they are talking about Closed beta veteran. Well known killer. SVER True Blood Svers all around infantry guy (+) Level 5 forum warrior 07 dust
CRYPT3C W0LF Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 563	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:32:00 - [2] - Quote If players go thru all the trouble to spawn in their double or triple damage modded Sica, So be it. Its a perfectly fine and accessible answer to destroying other tanks I Make Youtube Videos!:) Forum evolution, the cycle must continue...
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 511	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:41:00 - [3] - Quote If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1014	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:42:00 - [4] - Quote Glass cannon are too strong at the moment. With the nerf that happened to hardeners, damage mods should be lowered as well. I do not agree with removing militia tanks or any militia modules though. People need to learn how tanks work before deciding to drop the SP into testing them. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:19:00 - [5] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Glass cannon are too strong at the moment. With the nerf that happened to hardeners, damage mods should be lowered as well. I do not agree with removing militia tanks or any militia modules though. People need to learn how tanks work before deciding to drop the SP into testing them. I agree with your points. In my opinion, here's what's needed to be done: Change active damage amps to low slot passive damage amps with no more than 10% damage increase Either Revert large railguns to either the compressed or regular variant from 1.6 or Give large railguns a range profile like the laser rifle. Their damage should drop off steeply when put into CQC, and they can have their range back if their damage drops off at extreme ranges as well. For lore, it can be said that the charged plasma in the canister requires a fraction of a second after launch to reach its highest energy state, after which it rapidly decays, thus giving it an optimal range between, say 200m and 350m. Decrease large blaster damage Changing the turrets like that will restore balance to vehicles. Blasters are best against infantry, so they should also be worst (relatively) at AV. That said, a missile tank should beat any tank at CQC. A blaster tank should beat a rail tank in CQC. A rail tank should beat any tank at range. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1753	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:21:00 - [6] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: If players go thru all the trouble to spawn in their double or triple damage modded Sica, So be it. Its a perfectly fine and accessible answer to destroying other tanks NO! Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1753	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:22:00 - [7] - Quote medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? WRONG! Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6389	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:24:00 - [8] - Quote You are a bad tanker, and a bad player in general. If you are complaining about not being able to win because everyone's gear is equal, you are a bad tanker who can only perform well against other tanks (and vehicles by proxy) by using superior gear. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6389	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:25:00 - [9] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? [childish reply that does nothing to refute the point being presented to him] The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 2963	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:35:00 - [10] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: If players go thru all the trouble to spawn in their double or triple damage modded Sica, So be it. Its a perfectly fine and accessible answer to destroying other tanks NO! Yes. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

CLONE117 True Pros Forever 750	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:39:00 - [11] - Quote spike2000 wrote: Ask any proto good tanker in the game . Tankers gett killed more by militia dmg mod rail tanks than anything else . a proto freeking tank should now have to wrorry about a sica with armor plate , armor hardener, with double dmg mods. remove miltia tanks completely.. You shouldnt be able to run around with a tank our not skilled into and get 30 kills or more. Remove militia tanks .. ccp you arent listening to your vet players who have put real money into this game. Armor tanks got crapped on because of their cpu reduction and hardeners resistance is trash.... REMOVE FREEKING MILITIA TANKS AND REDUCE DMGE MODS . IV BEEN PLAYING OVER A YEAR AND IV THOUGHT ABOUT DELETING THIS GAME MULTIPLE TIMES THIS WEEK DUE TO THIS BULL CRAP. Stop ignoring your vet player who know what they are talking about u sir. are a shining example of proto scrubs everywhere...well some of them... i dont give a crap about u losing your shiny tank with black modules. because thats a good thing... mlt should be able to take down proto through head on fight means. it will most likely add better diversity and make the game healthier for the end. in other terms. stop bitching about a new berry who just happened to kill your scrubby little ass while u were driving a tank with a 30% advantage over their tanks.i feel the same needs to be done on the infantry levels as well. makes the new player experience better. so htfu. and stop bitching about losing your god mode. im sick of the selfish stupidity that keeps going on.. edit:welcome to new eden. second edit: also what i stated above will also essentialy nerf the proto stomps as well.. mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere...
Onesimus Tarsus 1802	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:41:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: If players go thru all the trouble to spawn in their double or triple damage modded Sica, So be it. Its a perfectly fine and accessible answer to destroying other tanks NO! Yes. Seconded. If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking. I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
TERMINALANCE Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 283	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:48:00 - [13] - Quote All I am hearing from tankers is that MLT should be ineffective against your proto tanks, and that is BS, that is not how it works for Dropsuits thats not how its going to work for tanks. A mlt dropsuit can kill a proto dropsuit easily in skilled hands same does and should go for tanks. If anything I have to say your a weak snobby player who is trying to have his SP and isk put him out of the league of more skilled lower SP players. That is not how this game works. It sounds like your letting him get the drop on you do to your lack of situational awareness, your fit is weak against his build strategy and your own hubris about your tank and your skill level leads to you getting killed. Scrub high SP tanker who thinks he should never die or only die to proto tanks, nothing to see here. Clean the sand out of your vaj scrub
spike2000 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 37	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:07:00 - [14] - Quote medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? Yeah i actually do here that. your not a tanker you wouldnt understand Closed beta veteran. Well known killer. SVER True Blood Svers all around infantry guy (+) Level 5 forum warrior 07 dust
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 628	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:12:00 - [15] - Quote medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? i actually did once lol It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6430	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:43:00 - [16] - Quote spike2000 wrote: medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? Yeah i actually do here that. your not a tanker you wouldnt understand I'm a tanker and the only thing I understand is that you want lower tiered modules to be ineffective to make up for your lack of skill in TvT battles. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Patrick57 6721	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:50:00 - [17] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: If players go thru all the trouble to spawn in their double or triple damage modded Sica, So be it. Its a perfectly fine and accessible answer to destroying other tanks NO! Yes. Maybe. My personal best ADS match
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2688	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:58:00 - [18] - Quote If i can be killed with a militia shotgun then you deserve to be killed by a militia railgun aswell. And once something has gone down to militia lvl then it will stay for good. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3257	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:08:00 - [19] - Quote Part 1: Engineering & Capacitors Part 2: Armor & Shield Part 3: Modules & Skills Part 4: Vehicles Part 5: Overview
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4654	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:08:00 - [20] - Quote medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? This. I had a passively-tanked gunnlogi with all standard mods going up against the proto aurum-mobile. It still survived to the end of the match, because I had situational awareness. I'm from the weird side of the internet

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1795	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:24:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? [childish reply that does nothing to refute the point being presented to him] It says it all and I'm tired of repeatedly explaining why. A childish mentality to the tank skill problem deserves a like response. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1987	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:36:00 - [22] - Quote medomai grey wrote: If these "good" tankers of yours are getting their stronger tanks murdered by weaker mlt tier tanks, they aren't good tankers. Stop relying on your gear to carry you. You don't hear any proto stomping infantry moaning about how they got killed mlt gear do you? Lolwut Do you even tank? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 394	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:08:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: You are a bad tanker, and a bad player in general. If you are complaining about not being able to win because everyone's gear is equal, you are a bad tanker who can only perform well against other tanks (and vehicles by proxy) by using superior gear. Its not that; everything is almost balanced. The railguns are broken and stick out like a sore thumb. In Tank v Tank - You outplay me with a blaster/missile? Time to bring out the railguns! In Tank v Infantry - You kill me with a tank once or twice? Time to bring out the railguns! It's a vicious cycle that only brings chaos and empty wallets in the end.


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