Tell that to my forge gun. It can't even do damage.

Missile/Rail tanks do wonders against nonhardened tanks

Its a large blaster of course its going to kill infantry it is what it is there for, it actually works now because pre 1.7 all i got was shield flare alot of the time it was better for killing other tanks with it

Your also going the wrong way about it all, at this rate vehicles will barely have any fits to use without it being classed as OP

I might disagree with you if infantry weren't so completely exposed to vehicles. They would have to overhaul all the maps for the large blaster turret to be acceptable. It has to have limitations that it just doesn't have at present.

why would Av be balanced? all they did was nerf the **** out of infantry AV and reduced the range on rail guns...

suddenly balanced?

i'm not ignoring the hardener nerfes, but infantry av can't kill my non-modded soma, so ya that doesn't mean **** to infantry.

This is not the case.

While paying for a vehicle upfront is more expensive, an Anti-Vehicle user is subject to death far more often than the average tanker, meaning that the true cost of AV is their fitting multiplied by their deaths as AV.

Take a look at these fittings.

Here, we have a fully decked, top-of-the-line AV fitting. It's got all of the tools an AVer needs to get the job done, and it's 3rd best AV fitting in the game.

The Cost: 227,490 ISK.

Now let's look at this fitting. Here, we have a Gunnlogi built for Anti-Vehicle purposes. It's also a top-of-the-line fitting, and one of the best Railgun fittings in the game. (I think)

The Cost: 448,020 ISK.

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Based on my experience, an AVer using this suit can expect to die about 3-4 times on average. So now what seems like half the price of the HAV (227,490 ISK), is actually a cost ranging 682,470 ISK - 909,960 ISK.

That isn't "much more expensive" by any definition. So with that in mind, shouldn't it be the Pilot who barely lives solo?

THIS POST MAKES ME SICK.

OP IS CLEARLY A TANKER POSTING GARBAGE TO KEEP CCP FROM BUFFING AV.
AV NEEDS A BUFF. NOW. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

MY PROF 5 WYRKOMI CANNOT TAKE OUT A PROPERLY FITTED SICA EVEN IF I HIT IT WITH ALL 7 OF MY MISSILE VOLLEYS IN QUICK SUCCESSION.
THAT IS WRONG.

You mean because the blaster actually works now its OP? i noticed nothing was ever said about blaster pre 1.7 because they didnt work, it was like missiles back in the chrome days they worked wonders but were again OP, fact is blaster is AI turret more than an AV turret but now thanks to the hardener nerf is can also be more effective against vehicles. If vehicles didnt have an AI turret then why would we bother with vehicles? the HAV has the blaster so it can defend itself from AV and scouts and FG etc, the small turrets are genrally useless for this role unless you happen to use small missile which for some reason make the large look bad for killing infantry even tho i full auto 12 at someone and get next to no splash

Passive repair mods work, but also they are against lore where shield always recharges and armor has an active repair tank unless you use remote reps which we no longer have. Bottom line is we have less choice than we ever had so the same fits which actually work are going to be more popular but that means less variety for everyone involved and half the mods wont get touched again

I can only work with what i have and what CCP have given us and frankly CCP have been taking away more things and nerfing them

Anyway this is the only real answer to vehicles

Part 1: Engineering & Capacitors
Part 2: Armor & Shield
Part 3: Modules & Skills
Part 4: Vehicles
Part 5: Overview

Blasters are meant for AI. As such they should be the worst at AV, period. Blasters, due to their automatic nature, will always kill infantry the easiest out of all of the large turrets. This is why they must be the worst at AV. Making them the best at AI AND giving them CQC AV abilities is just wrong. I want to avoid the 1.6 blaster Maddy that could kill anything.

Blasters should keep their AI as long as they are the worst at AV. But their AV got a bit too powerful with the hardener nerf, so I think a damage nerf to large blasters will limit their AV abilities once again and also reduce the woes of the infantryman.

Repping fits are fine as they are. They increase their defense against infantry AV at the cost of being highly susceptible to railguns and missiles. I think that's a fair trade-off. Let's not even forget proxies and REs.

Madrugar Fit - two Complex Heavy Armor Reps, one Basic Hardener. Armor still reps against all infantry, and can survive two blaster tanks for long engagements, and survive any onslaught of rails, with enough time to get away. Madrugar can take against both types with relative ease.

Really? A proto swarm launcher with prof 5 and 2 complex mods on a proto minmatar commando suit which adds extra 10% damage does less damage than an advance swarm back in 1.6 before all the nerfs to swarms, dmg mods and prof.

Swarms range should be increased to 250 meters and damage increased to 300