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Egonz4 the unholy legion of darkstar 196	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:31:00 - [1] - Quote Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) But seriously it takes a dual wielded fit with two proto FLs to kill a person where u can do it in one round with a militia ScP!!! I have proficiency level 4 and ammo capacity level 4 invested in this thing and we didn't get a weapons respec so plzz ccp buff it fast. It should take one round to kill someone not two proto rounds. BORN CALDARI
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 265	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:33:00 - [2] - Quote I agree. The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! 1.8 is fun. Cant wait for the new build!
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 740	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:34:00 - [3] - Quote Do you perhaps mean "magazine" as opposed to round? I don't think it's unacceptable that the Flaylock can't OHKO. Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2219	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:35:00 - [4] - Quote It's a sidearm, not a primary. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara, Uprising 1.7 Long live the Commandos!
The Infected One Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1249	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:35:00 - [5] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) But seriously it takes a dual wielded fit with two proto FLs to kill a person where u can do it in one round with a militia ScP!!! I have proficiency level 4 and ammo capacity level 4 invested in this thing and we didn't get a weapons respec so plzz ccp buff it fast. It should take one round to kill someone not two proto rounds. I think the word you are looking for is clip, or magazine. One round is in reference to 1 shot. Most of us get what you're trying to say though. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 892	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:36:00 - [6] - Quote militia ScP = skill shot flaylock = shoot at feet and hope for splash I agree the flaylock needs a little love but not too much. I think we can all agree NO ONE misses the Era of Flaylock. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 639	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:39:00 - [7] - Quote #lolprotosidearms #lolflaylock #lolflaylockusers #Spsink #Nerfbathomerun #Wasnthereinjune #Nope #Nada #Never Mike Ruan Said i was Dust Famous! Did he just talk in #'s Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 97	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:40:00 - [8] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) Actually, believe it or not I thought it was going to be a FotM scout scrub complaining that their militia shotgun wasn't strong enough to OHK a prototype brick-tanked Gallente Sentinel. Seriously, I did. 3/10 Federal Marines -- 1/10 Republic Command Matari Commando Pride -- Breach Mass Driver Specialist
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2139	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:40:00 - [9] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) But seriously it takes a dual wielded fit with two proto FLs to kill a person where u can do it in one round with a militia ScP!!! I have proficiency level 4 and ammo capacity level 4 invested in this thing and we didn't get a weapons respec so plzz ccp buff it fast. It should take one round to kill someone not two proto rounds. No. First of all: No crying about respecs because your shiny toy is suddenly not as strong as another toy. Second: No buffing so you can kill faster. ScP should be nerfed. We want a longer TTK, not a shorter. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 932	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:40:00 - [10] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Era of Flaylock. Oh the horror, I still wake up screaming from time to time "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2666	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:41:00 - [11] - Quote The only weapons which are capable of 1 hit kills are forgeguns to the face, maxed out nova knifes, a remote explosive and a thale sniper rifle to the head. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 893	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:43:00 - [12] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Era of Flaylock. Oh the horror, I still wake up screaming from time to time Entire matches of instantly regenerating Cal logis with twin Core Flaylocks.... *shudders I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Spartykins NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 59	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:46:00 - [13] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Era of Flaylock. Oh the horror, I still wake up screaming from time to time Entire matches of instantly regenerating Cal logis with twin Core Flaylocks.... *shudders You misspelled "Tac AR" (Insert witty phrase here)
Egonz4 the unholy legion of darkstar 196	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:47:00 - [14] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: militia ScP = skill shot flaylock = shoot at feet and hope for splash I agree the flaylock needs a little love but not too much. I think we can all agree NO ONE misses the Era of Flaylock. U can't be more wrong It takes a lot more skill to use a Flaylock than a ScP and not because its weak BORN CALDARI
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 303	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:49:00 - [15] - Quote I propose doubling the clip size, lowering damage by 30%, and increasing splash radius by 1m.
martinofski Onsencaliss 329	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:51:00 - [16] - Quote Do they still flip dropship?
Dexter307 the unholy legion of darkstar 1317	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:54:00 - [17] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: It's a sidearm, not a primary. facepalm
Sardonk Eternia RisingSuns 199	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:55:00 - [18] - Quote I think the flaylock is probably the one sidearm that shouldn't kill in one clip. It seems to me it's designed as a finisher or skill-shot weapon with a special purpose. If you want to tear someone down in one clip with a sidearm go for one of the two fabulous SMGs.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 741	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:57:00 - [19] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Second: No buffing so you can kill faster. ScP should be nerfed. We want a longer TTK, not a shorter. So are you advocating a second nerf to the Scrambler Pistols, as all of the RoFs (except for the already slow Breach) were cut down by 1/3+? Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6380	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:01:00 - [20] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: militia ScP = skill shot flaylock = shoot at feet and hope for splash I agree the flaylock needs a little love but not too much. I think we can all agree NO ONE misses the Era of Flaylock. The Flaylock Pistol requires more skill than the Scrambler Pistol ever has (and will), as the Flaylock Pistol is not hitscan and requires you to time your shots properly. As opposed to the Scrambler Pistol which only requires you to point at the target and press the R1 button and your guaranteed to hit. Along with the Scrambler Pistol's ability to utilize Aim Assist. In terms of skill shot: Flaylock > Every Pistol The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2131	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:08:00 - [21] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: #lolprotosidearms #lolflaylock #lolflaylockusers #Spsink #Nerfbathomerun #Wasnthereinjune #Nope #Nada #Never I joined in June. Was in the academy for most of it, though. When I got out, Flaylock, Flaylock, Flaylock, Scrambler Rifle, Flaylock, Scrambler Rifle, Flaylock, Flaylock, Flaylock.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 165	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:28:00 - [22] - Quote The flaylock only needs that minmatar skill that ccp posted soo long ago that the anti minmatar forum trolls rejected. +1 to flaylock clip size per lvl minmatar assault 4KD Minmatar Assault Weapon sp refund please
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 404	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:32:00 - [23] - Quote Yea, flaylocks are difficult to use. They will probably be getting a buff SOON(tm) as CCP starts to fix all the weapons it broke with the nerf hammer (the laser and mass driver) -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Dexter307 the unholy legion of darkstar 1318	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:54:00 - [24] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: I think the flaylock is probably the one sidearm that shouldn't kill in one clip. It seems to me it's designed as a finisher or skill-shot weapon with a special purpose. If you want to tear someone down in one clip with a sidearm go for one of the two fabulous SMGs. Or any other pistol or sidearm except the bolt It's seems any sidearm that sucks is now a "finisher"
Tectonic Fusion 1386	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:28:00 - [25] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: It's seems any sidearm that sucks is now a "finisher" Well, I can't really "finish" with the Scrambler Pistol because on top of the slow RoF, it's not very effective against armor sooo.......Yeah I'm using the bolt pistol now. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 898	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:16:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: militia ScP = skill shot flaylock = shoot at feet and hope for splash I agree the flaylock needs a little love but not too much. I think we can all agree NO ONE misses the Era of Flaylock. The Flaylock Pistol requires more skill than the Scrambler Pistol ever has (and will), as the Flaylock Pistol is not hitscan and requires you to time your shots properly. As opposed to the Scrambler Pistol which only requires you to point at the target and press the R1 button and your guaranteed to hit. Along with the Scrambler Pistol's ability to utilize Aim Assist. In terms of skill shot: Flaylock > Every Pistol LOL. In general, mercs who are a good shot use things that go "pew pew" not "boom boom". I understand what you are trying to say. But the flaylock isn't the Plasma Cannon of sidearms. It's the mass driver.... I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 898	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:17:00 - [27] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: It's seems any sidearm that sucks is now a "finisher" Well, I can't really "finish" with the Scrambler Pistol because on top of the slow RoF, it's not very effective against armor sooo.......Yeah I'm using the bolt pistol now. I didn't say that?? lol But I think yes it is supposed to be a finisher. It does do more damage towards armor, which would seem to support that but what do I know? I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 289	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:19:00 - [28] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) Actually, believe it or not I thought it was going to be a FotM scout scrub complaining that their militia shotgun wasn't strong enough to OHK a prototype brick-tanked Gallente Sentinel. Seriously, I did. Guy above has been getting rickrolled by scouts I see.
Dexter307 the unholy legion of darkstar 1322	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:19:00 - [29] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: It's seems any sidearm that sucks is now a "finisher" Well, I can't really "finish" with the Scrambler Pistol because on top of the slow RoF, it's not very effective against armor sooo.......Yeah I'm using the bolt pistol now. Standard Scrambler pistol has a higher DPS to armor than the proto bolt does Scramblers better as a finisher
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2385	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:22:00 - [30] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) But seriously it takes a dual wielded fit with two proto FLs to kill a person where u can do it in one clip with a militia ScP!!! I have proficiency level 4 and ammo capacity level 4 invested in this thing and we didn't get a weapons respec so plzz ccp buff it fast. It should take one clip to kill someone not two proto clips. I think the ion pistol is three clips if you discount the charged shot. The charged shot is a 1 clip death For the Federation!

Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 43	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:28:00 - [31] - Quote I couldn't kill a newberry dancing 20 feet in front of me in militia gear with all the ammo I had (I was Dual-weilding basic flaylocks for a challenge I was participating in). I'd love to see the flaylock brough back to usable. Boost your squad's points by 40%, learn to use the Squad Wheel! I provide training: 1M isk: 90 Minutes of Basic Command
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:30:00 - [32] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Yes u probably guessed it - the Flaylock (weakest gun in the game) But seriously it takes a dual wielded fit with two proto FLs to kill a person where u can do it in one clip with a militia ScP!!! I have proficiency level 4 and ammo capacity level 4 invested in this thing and we didn't get a weapons respec so plzz ccp buff it fast. It should take one clip to kill someone not two proto clips. What Pyrex said.... Couldn't resist. That said it was nerfed quite hard and if it's tricky to work with due to range and other consideration shot trajectory etc it should be worked on in some way... Or do the other sidearms that can match a primary weapon need bringing down to it's level? Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6386	Posted - 2014.04.04 18:18:00 - [33] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: LOL. In general, mercs who are a good shot use things that go "pew pew" not "boom boom". I understand what you are trying to say. But the flaylock isn't the Plasma Cannon of sidearms. It's the mass driver.... That statement is an antecedote, but if you want to look at it that way, the other pistols are the 1.6 Duvolle of Sidearms Even if, Mass Drivers are still more skill intensive than all of the conventional rifles combined, as the suffer disadvantages that the conventional rifles don't Low Ammo Pool means you have to use your shots carefully. MD Rounds have an arc and travel time, meaning you have to time your shots and predict the enemy's movement. Ineffective at Longer Ranges Lower DPS Can lead to suicide if not used properly. The Mass Driver and Plasma Cannon are one in the same. The only difference is the fact that the PLC faces these downsides to a far greater extremity. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND


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