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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.07 16:52:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I suspect something must be wrong with the hit detection on a strafing Caldari light. Its only a suspicion though. They are by far the hardest light suits to kill for me, and I use an anti-shield weapon (assault scrambler rifle on an Amarr commando). There might actually be nothing wrong with it, and there may be nothing that needs to be done with them, but it really feels like something is just off.
EDIT: How does their strafe speed compare to the Minmatar light suits? I haven't run a strafe race with the Calscout, but it -feels- like it's not strafing at thr 95% it should. Feels more like a 98% or something. Again this is all my opinion, but no other scout gives me these problems. Even 900hp galscouts are possible to kill. Since when can a scout stand 20m away, strafe in a 2-3m wide area, and dodge 85-90% of my HMG's shots? He doesn't 'appear' to even move out of my crosshairs. Naturally though, because i can't kill something, means i'm a bad player.  Just seems offset.
Maybe the players you were facing were skilled in how they approach an opponent and they just out skilled you .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:02:00 -
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Salviatino Maiano wrote:in 1.8,
the player makes the suit, the suit doesn't make the player.
As a cal scout i can fight and kill many players, but, many players can kill me just as easy. As a scout i know what i must do before each encounter and if i don't prepare for that i don't come out alive. When i run my assault alt I "stay aware, stay alive" for scout encounters. I no longer run around without checking my back or running without teammates. I move slower using cover and I am always on the look for shimmers or distortions.
When i encoutner a scout... sometimes i win, sometimes i lose, if i get complacent, i get dead. sry dude i just think a lot of players are going through some pains with the new content. give it time if your still having issues 20 days from now, you know when this stuff has actually been out for a month. Then maybe its time to address it.
Sounds about right .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:08:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal scouts are pretty much the ultimate combat suit.
Passive scanning so you can detect everyone? Check
AMAZING regeneration? Check
High speed? Check
Fast strafing? Check
etc'.
The Gal Scout may have the highest HP ceiling, but the plates reduce speed, and Cal scout has a regen the Gal scout can never achieve. The only thing the gal scout has in favor over the other suits is one really useful skill bonus and one partly and the repair. The highest amount of HP can still achieve the Amarr scout... Compared to the cal scout the suit is rather meh, buts its funny that everyone is complaining about the gal scout especially when they are saying he has the highest eHP...this shows the lack of game knowledge these folks have. The Cal scout is amazing and from my experience the most used scout suit so far Ah, good sir. I run a Gal scout. I hack fast. I run fast. I run long. I am not seen. I scan (well, when I bother equipping my poor little camera). My low slots do not always contribute to my HP, and for that, I loves it so much. Options are good, though, and Caldari does look shiny. But do not judge scouts by the ones you shoot at all day. Remember there are many of us in the shadows...
Agreed .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.07 17:30:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Is innately wrong.
Something to do with its'
Hitbox, strafing %, or just simply its' fitting freedom.
SOMETHING is OP about this.
I ran a basic Caldari Light frame today, testing out the fits thag were killin me the most to figure out WHY AN HMG WITH 2 DMG MODS CANNOT KILL A CALSCOUT BEFORE HE SHOTGUNS ME FROM 15m AWAY.
/rant end, now to be objective.
In my min scout, i can't strafe 6m away from a heavy/Hmg combo and win.
In my unbonused Caldari frame however, only Proto HMG's have a chance to kill me.
I'm not exaggerating either.
Mh-82's never killed me.
duvole Ar's never killed me.
ACR's never touched me.
I had a tank of 380 or so shield, ran Bk-42(standard light frame)
I consistently did better than my Advanced Minscout/Galscout or my proto MinCommando.
CCP i'm not going to shout 'THIS IS OP!' But i want you to double check your numbers, please.
Also can we have a confirmation the CalScout doesn't have a smaller hitbox than the Min? I think we are using two very different suits.... I think caldari scouts have been killing you a bit too much cause you don't know how to cloak or use dampeners. Btw, brink tanking vs a cal scout is a stupid move i use the scout ck0 and i would die if a heavy melees me less than 300 hp so i call your post a BS... I have a gal scout too... learn to play the strengths and weaknesses of each suit. Before calling anything OP (Just cause you dont have it) it's a bit lame
That just pisses me off when people talk about Caldari's advantages , Gunnies are not that strong and you face their strength first and it's not offensive , it's defensive so that just make's it easier when you kill that first .. now we have people talk about Sentinel's and scout / light frame's ( there was mentioning of light frame's ) and clearly .. for a group where most speak of them shield tanking , now you have to give up the low slot's to see better or not be seen and that just kills your offensive power threw your lack of a defensive stance making ability .
You are forced to hit and run so when you hit , it better count and if someone see's that they have the advantage .. they won't let up but they get killed easier and the fact that they are NOT as fast as a Minmatar at speed or strafing .
Strafing in a short distance to get to an opponent does not count for over all speed of strafing ( i.e. strafe speed ) because Minmatar doesn't need anymore compliments in this area .
Light frames = Garbage . To much sacrifice to be functional .
Scout's = Garbage . Yes you can see but you better run from it because you just can't fit any defense ( unless you can call dampener's as defense ) in order to function and be stealthy because Gal's are not only stealthy but they can see just as good as a Cal scout .
And they CAN stack armor rep's , kincat's , dampener's , armor , ranger's and enhancement mods .
I'm not even going to talk about they Heavies seeing as how there stat's aren't even correct so I just can't say yet but I can say that the advanced Sentinel should have two low slots or at least the Prototype .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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