Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:39:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Knight Solitaire wrote:CCP hasn't changed the Shotgun in months except for a few minor fixes, its the combination of the Cloak + Shotgun that is making the weapon look powerful.
In this case its the Suit + Cloak Combined with the Shotgun. But the Shotgun itself is not OP. Yes this is the problem. Cloak by itself- fine. Shotgun by itself- fine. Cloak + Shotgun + Gallente Scout = Not fine at all. The cloak takes all the properties of the shotgun that make it balance and practically removes it. The reason why I say gallente is because you can scan down any other suit if you really wanted to. There's a counter for every other scout. Not the gallente. Cloaking up with a gallente scout and a shotgun and sitting in a nullcannon to protect it should not be an acceptable strategy. @ Moody Couldn't this problem be solved by tweaking the Cloak's added profile reduction? Doing so would encourage folks to run Damps over Plates; bye bye brick-tank Scout QQ. Or would this lend too significant an advantage to Cal Scout and Gal Logi? Or place undue stress on Min / Amarr Scouts? How do you propose we solve the problem?
Brick tanking, it's only wrong when someone else is doing it. 
Absolutely nothing wrong with dual tanking a logistics suits, or an assault suit, or a heavy suit. but when a scout does it! then there's a problem.
"The cloak takes all the properties of the shotgun that make it balance and practically removes it. The reason why I say gallente is because you can scan down any other suit if you really wanted to. There's a counter for every other scout. Not the gallente."
lol, this is so absolutely wrong. EVERY SINGLE SCOUT can get their profile below 15db. They can get it to the point that a Caldari Scout with 4 complex precision enhancers Or a Gallente Logistics with a Focused Scanner won't detect them.
ALL 4 Scouts can do this!
A theoretical Amarr Scout can be dampened enough to never be scanned, EVER, 510 armor HP and 220 shield HP.
My Minmatar Scout has 342 shield HP, 153 armor HP
My Caldari Scout has 380 shield HP, 87 armor HP
My Gallente Scout has 608 armor HP, 232 shield HP
Or I could brick-tank my Gallente Logistics suit for 935 armor and 342 shields.
Garunteeing to never be scanned is clearly worth more than 430HP
Hmm, Perhaps. I do have to sacrifice about 350 on that dual tanked Logistics to get under 20dB while using a cloak.
Cloaked Cal-Logi is still my favorite, btw. A shame I gave up that suit up for the Calmando, it would have been epic.
boo-*******-hoo. All I see are a bunch of people crying over actually taking Scouts as a threat instead of just laughing at seeing one in their armor tanked suits with multiple damage mods with constant active scanner spam.
If you think cloak+shotgun is OP, you need to look again at the Combat Rifle and how that overshadows all the light weapons. Combat rifle and cloak is still better than shotgun and cloak 9 times out of 10.
If you think there's a problem with a SCOUT dual tanking, then you need to prevent dual tanking all together. Not just on a single suit.
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