i have my own thoughts on how to make the cloak more challenging to use. here are some of the ideas.

1) when you activate the cloak, the world around you goes blurry

2) you lose the ability to distinguish friend from foe. in other words, you cant tell who is a blue, green or red chevron

3) you lose your HUD and your dropsuit scan turns off. this goes with suggestion 2.

4) if the cloak shield takes any kind of damage, the cloak is deactivated

5) once the cloak shield is turned off, you will appear on enemy radar, but just a split second and even then, you don't appear as a full red dot, but as a transparent red dot. this would mean all players would have to be very mindful of there radar, if they aren't already.

these are just some ideas i have to make it more of a challenge to use the cloak and i would love to see some, if not all ideas used. any thoughts from the community?

Amusing idea, but as others have pointed out, way unfair to anyone who is a shield tanker, vs those gallente scum who usually have 70 shields, and a kabillion armor fitted.

How about this:

Cloak activates: uses SHIELD AS STAMINA.
The more shields you have, the longer time you have in cloak. But you lose 5 shield for every second in cloak.

and when you run out of shield... no more cloak.
(and note that this also gives penalty when you get hit. getting hit == losing shields == losing cloak time)



Somewhat compensatory: no more "50% min power" requirement. You can activate it whenever you like, so long as you have shield strength.

Your obviously an idiot...

TRUE.
And the other matches are filled with Mediocre cloaked dudes that dont even have the Profile dampening low enough to NOT show in my radar....

They are out there for sure, but the line is profile dampening 4 for all scouts (much less for gal scouts) to be completely un scannable passively by medium frame suits no matter what skill level or however many complex enhancers worn. I agree with the removal of the dampening bonus while the cloak is active. I didn't gripe about scanners last build because I knew how powerful dampeners were and used them over plates every time,

The other thing I agree with is some form of delay. I would suggest having to press r1 to deactivate before any form of swap (weapon, grenade, equipment.) this would prevent scouts from de cloaking while sprinting and add a little time before thy can fire.

Right now only 4 things can ping a fully dampened (no modules) cloaked scout.

1. A fully skilled Cal scout with 1 complex enhancer. (Need 3 to pick up a Gal Scout)
2. A fully skilled Scout with 3 enhancers (cannot ping a Gal fully skilled Gal Scout)
3. Anyone with the focused scanner (cannot ping a fully skilled Gal Scout, all scouts can avoid with 1 complex dampener)
4. A fully skilled Gal Logi with a proto scanner (gal Logi needs his bonus with the focused to pick up a a Gal Scout with 1 dampener. Gal Scout can evade everything with 2 complex Dampeners)

The scanners are laughable now. With the scan angles the way they are now, you have to see the scout and Aim at him before you can scan him. If you just randomly hit a scout with a focused you got lucky. 7.5 seconds with a 40 second cooldown. The combination of cloaking and the scanner nerf together with the fundimental buff to scouts is the problem. This is no different than what CCP did to vehicles last build. They swung too many things in opposite directions at once.

And lay off the "use your eyes" crap. I dampened last build and know far to well how easy it is to flank someone who you can clearly see on Radar that can't see you. Only, when I did it, I had to seriously gimp my tank. Scouts do not. I have Gal Scout proto and can now build a faster, damper, higher eHP, with higher tier weapons missing only one equipment slot from the flanking Logi fits I used last build for less ISK. Oh and I can be invisible to the naked eye, which with the resolution of this game as bad as it is, works pretty well. I wasn't even going to try the cloak until CCP gave us 25 for free. Do you guys realize that with the bonus that thing uses less resources than a K17 Nanohive?