The name is an irony and often times puts people into very cruddy locations within ambushes, such as directly in front of a madruger's guns as it literally blazes the team down because smart deploy is to stuipid to deploy anywhere else. Often times smart deploy will get stuck on one spot, usually the most horrid spot for the team to be deployed to, and one side will get a great advantage because they can surround and make sure that the team can not move at all. For these reasons and more I wants smart deploy removed from the game. What I would like instead is as follows, I will number off each thing I would want in the new system.

1. Players can choose 1 of 3 randomly available points, this way not only can you prevent camping by the enemy team, the player gets to decide where to spawn and can least make a cursory glance that the spot isn't right next to a tank.

2. The spots for deployment change based upon how the team is doing, like it currently does, however, now you have 3 spots that the player can choose where to go, rather then the game/ai.

3. For the spots to have a sense if they are being overrun or a bad location to spawn to, by being if the enemy has more ISK value then your team within the area radius, this spot becomes marked off and a new spot must be selected.

I feel that this system would be tons better, would not allow for camping and continued massacre, and would provide a better experience for all within Ambush/Ambush OMS. Ideas/suggestions are most welcome, also if you agree with this forum make sure to give it an up vote.

I agree I know cause my team did the same thing,it was cold.I hate campers,nobody likes campers. What he said sounds both Like a great idea and nothing could go wrong with it Smart deploy burn burn

I lol'd so much when I saw this in the patch notes: "Auto Deploy" changed to "Smart Deploy"
Times like this is when you know you're dealing with some really stupid people.

The name is an irony and often times puts people into very cruddy locations within ambushes, such as directly in front of a madruger's guns as it literally blazes the team down because smart deploy is to stuipid to deploy anywhere else. Often times smart deploy will get stuck on one spot, usually the most horrid spot for the team to be deployed to, and one side will get a great advantage because they can surround and make sure that the team can not move at all. For these reasons and more I wants smart deploy removed from the game. What I would like instead is as follows, I will number off each thing I would want in the new system.

1. Players can choose 1 of 3 randomly available points, this way not only can you prevent camping by the enemy team, the player gets to decide where to spawn and can least make a cursory glance that the spot isn't right next to a tank.

2. The spots for deployment change based upon how the team is doing, like it currently does, however, now you have 3 spots that the player can choose where to go, rather then the game/ai.

3. For the spots to have a sense if they are being overrun or a bad location to spawn to, by being if the enemy has more ISK value then your team within the area radius, this spot becomes marked off and a new spot must be selected.

I feel that this system would be tons better, would not allow for camping and continued massacre, and would provide a better experience for all within Ambush/Ambush OMS. Ideas/suggestions are most welcome, also if you agree with this forum make sure to give it an up vote.

Whenever I notice I realize we are being spawn killed I just stop spawning.

Smart deploy initially tries to spawn you near a good sized group of allies but if there are none then it attempts to spawn you away from the enemy.
Just a little patience and your entire team can spawn on the opposite side of the map. Even if there are a buttload of friendly uplinks in dumb spots the smart deploy will ignore them to spawn you somewhere safe.
The only real downside is nobody is patient enough to wait for the others to die out and therefore they spawn into more bullets.

~Sigh. But I suppose if the community won't change (big shock) CCP has to work harder to change there game instead.

How about CCP just make smart deploy actually smart - only ever deploy you over 100m away from any enemy; if there are no such points available because the enemy are so spread across the entire map (highly unlikely to ever occur), find the furthest point from every enemy player balanced with the lowest enemy population density.

How [i]smartp/i] deploy works at the moment - deploy next to the most other players on your team/squad, automatically bunching everyone together for an easy enemy killzone that is impossible to escape.

Don't use smart deploy, use my uplinks ;)

Skirmish matches seem to lend themselves well to GRADUALLY learning the focus of team-coordination and team-planning.

Domination matches are almost as effective when players CHOOSE teamwork, or when they FREE-FOR-ALL throw themselves as lone wolves at the objective and last merc with her bloody hand on the null-button saves the district!

But "AMBUSH" matches have always appeared to be something we jump into ASSUMING it's every merc for himself and slughter as much as your two hands can fill. It always seems to be played like a MOSTLY mixed bag of lone fighters.

Ambush would be played and won better if you team-planned a little right before the match. Simply cry out, Milla is the uplink master--no one use smart deploy, use Milla's uplinks"... Celesta's taking a dropship to sack and hack the red CRU-everyone get in the dropship and help!" ....But. I get the impression players DON'T want the Ambush venue for team-responsibilities and attachments----ya'll want it for rapid runnin-n-gunnin.

We can't have Ambush as Free-For-All, every merc for herself, ...and then ask for A-I to do some kind of SMART-spawning for us. If we play the Ambush thought-free and team-free, then we should be "dumped" on battlefield thought-free and have no probs.

This is actually a repeat discussion, and sorry fellas, the conclusion/solution is the same.

Skirmish matches seem to lend themselves well to GRADUALLY learning the focus of team-coordination and team-planning.

Domination matches are almost as effective when players CHOOSE teamwork, or when they FREE-FOR-ALL throw themselves as lone wolves at the objective and last merc with her bloody hand on the null-button saves the district!

But "AMBUSH" matches have always appeared to be something we jump into ASSUMING it's every merc for himself and slughter as much as your two hands can fill. It always seems to be played like a MOSTLY mixed bag of lone fighters.

Ambush would be played and won better if you team-planned a little right before the match. Simply cry out, Milla is the uplink master--no one use smart deploy, use Milla's uplinks"... Celesta's taking a dropship to sack and hack the red CRU-everyone get in the dropship and help!" ....But. I get the impression players DON'T want the Ambush venue for team-responsibilities and attachments----ya'll want it for rapid runnin-n-gunnin.

We can't have Ambush as Free-For-All, every merc for herself, ...and then ask for A-I to do some kind of SMART-spawning for us. If we play the Ambush thought-free and team-free, then we should be "dumped" on battlefield thought-free and have no probs.

'SMART' is what CCP kinda keeps trying to reward and encourage us to do.... not get as a service from the game.

That's why Aderak's and Lithkul's comments are the onew that own this thread.

I think Aderak's comment gives you the keys to the car: DON'T use Smart-Deploy, EVER! Use players' uplink equipment---your chances with a manual uplink are better bet than "smart-deploy".

And Lithkul's comment escorts you and gets you onto the freeway: Hook up with the best equipment users you can find (like in EVE, that only comes from exposure and chance meetings during skirmish matches, etc.) SOCIALIZE.
Often you THINK you're dropping uplinks in clever places, and you get sadly notified that you've only got level-2 cleverness, in a world full of level-7cleverness.