Atiim wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
LOL
So what minmatar suit is the weakest again?
Scout: No that is the amarr scout
Logi: No, they are all pretty balances
Assault: No, caldari is the worst
Sentinel: Maybe, the jury is still out on this one
Commando: Nope, it is the amarr sentinel and it is not even close.
Caldari Assault is far better than Minmatar Assault, as they have the ability to reach a higher eHP ceiling while still being faster than Gallente & Amarr frames, and they have a 4/3 layout, allowing for far better dual tanking, and even the ability to armor tank if they are going against LR or SCR spam.
All of the Logistics got the shaft, though I will admit that the Matari's 5% Repair Rate & Tool Range is nice.
How is it hung? You can have similar speed on the Caldari Sentinel, while having far greater eHP. Being the fastest Sentinel is like being the smartest kid on the Short Bus.
The only thing the Minmatar commando has going for it is AV. The Speed of a Heavy Frame, yet the eHP of a Medium Frame. I could dispute your claim about the Amarr Commando, but I've already done so in another thread.
Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
Things that the matari are the best at:
Sprinting
Jumping
Strafing
Hacking
Repping
Area Denial
assasination
DPS (HMG and CR >>>>>>>> everything)
Damage profiles
Stamina regen (double everyone else??? lol)
- Sprinting? Yeah by 0.03m/s.
- Jumping? All that's good for is fighting a vehicle.
- Strafing? That's negated by Aim Assist, and the fact that being hit reduces your speed significantly.
- Hacking? That's far too situational to make a difference
- Repping? I'll give you that one
- Assassination? The only time the Nova Knife bonus makes a difference is when your fighting a Sentinel.
- Alpha GëÑ DPS. Would you rather kill your enemy quickly or instantly?
- The Explosive profile is the inverse of the Laser profile, and we only have 3 Projectile weapons in the game.
- Stamina? Who needs that when you can use your eHP to pull a Leroy Jenkins on everyone?
Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
Things the matari at bad at:
HP (which doesn't matter because slots minimize any starting HP difference)
God I swear minmatards are the biggest whiners in new eden (yes they will always claim they are underpowered in eve too, even when they are obviously OP)
25% less eHP for 0.03m/s? Yeah, that's not a problem.
At least the Minmatar actually acknowledge when they're OP (for reference, see the Flaylock Pistol and Locus Grenade). Now what about the massive amount of Amarr Loyalists who were defending their crutch (1.4 - 1.7 Scrambler Rifle) and were protesting the nerf for the TTK changes?
Weren't you the one crying about being worse than the Gallente by 0.01m/s and (at most) 100 eHP?
Um, you remember the fact that there is absolutely no reason to ever choose the amarrian scout over the gallente ever right? Yeah, totally crying there.
Uhh... I am not aware of any amarrians protesting the TTK changes. Oh, maybe you mean protesting the fact that now the scrambler rifle doesn't have enough damage to kill a heavy before overheat? Or that our overheat amount didn't get changed? Or maybe the fact that 2 out of 3 amarrian weapons are only competitive using one suit (that has a broken bonus right now?)
Please enlighten me. Maybe use some math, some proof, something other than bullsh-t?
Cal assault 1148 ehp vs minmatar assault at 1016 eHP if you brick tank both, with the minmatar assault being almost 0.5 m/sec faster, 0.7 m/sec faster sprinter, double the stamina regen, more stamina, faster hacking, more fitting left over, and a very useful bonus (the cal assault only has the EHP, thats it.) Minmatar assault >>> Caldari assault.
So, minmatar suits are all 0.2m/sec faster than cal/gal suits, and 0.4 m/sec faster than amarr suits. This translates into a 0.24 m/sec increase over those suits. In the case of sentinel and commandos, that is roughly a 6% difference, or the equivelent of a basic kinetic catalyzer.
Jumping is incredibly useful, ever try using an amarrian suit versus it's counterparts? Notice how terrain is much more difficult to navigate? Of course not, why would you want to have even the appearance of impartiality.
Strafing most definately is not negated by aim assists. This is a bullsh-t statement and you know it.
Hacking is incredibly useful in all game mods but ambush, and even then it might be (enemy vehicle, supply depot). To say otherwise is to lie.
Nova knife damage w/ and w/o minmitard bonus:
Std 360 vs 450
Adv 600 vs 750
Pro 800 vs 1000
I would say it makes a difference at ALL levels. Of course you wouldn't though, because no advantage is ever to great for minmatards.
Uhhh... no weapon kills as fastand consistently as HMG or CR. See PC. No rifle does more damage per trigger pull (not even close actually). Once again, just ignoring facts here aren't you?
Lol "We only have 3 projectile weapons in game" ORLY? How many amarrian weapons in total are in-game?
Stamina regen is incredibly more useful than stamina. IF you can't figure out why, just leave the conversation to the adults then.