DUST Search - New TV and Suddenly I Can't Aim

Bethhy wrote:

Youknowutimsayin wrote:

I've been playing on my trusty 47" LCD since closed beta but decided it was time for an upgrade. I went and picked up a 61" and proceeded to go 1-20 over the course of 2.5 matches.

Nerf Contrast
Nerf Sharpness
Nerf the ******* Backlight

There are tons of study's on professional gaming Monitors and screens.

Where to big is actually WORSE for how FPS games work.

When the screen get's to big it forces you to move your eyes from one side to the other to take in all the information... Sometimes spacing yourself away from the TV at a certain distance can get rid of this...

There is actually a calculation for Human eye field of view... So you can measure the distance you need to be away from the screen for your eyes to be able to take all the information in without having to move.

But this is a well known fact in competitive FPS gamers. To big of a screen will ruin your instant reflex ability and ability to take all the information in.

This is why you see alot of people play on 30-40' Computer monitors.. You generally get better performance for your buck and that is all the size of screen your eyes can take in without starting to have to move around.

I Believe the max limit is 42' For the Human eye not having to move... I tried to link you the information but it's in a passworded hardware forum.

Edit* People have got rid of the screen size caps.. By Building a concave screen setup http://origin.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/panoply.jpg

Or the new monitors that they are starting to build..

http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u69/Curved_Display.jpg

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Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 71	Posted - 2014.04.02 15:06:00 - [1] - Quote I've been playing on my trusty 47" LCD since closed beta but decided it was time for an upgrade. I went and picked up a 61" and proceeded to go 1-20 over the course of 2.5 matches. Nerf Contrast Nerf Sharpness Nerf the ******* Backlight
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation 515	Posted - 2014.04.02 15:10:00 - [2] - Quote 61??? It is way too Big to play an fps, even 47 is too much!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2045	Posted - 2014.04.02 15:12:00 - [3] - Quote Return TV, get 27" computer screen with Hdmi input. Win. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 71	Posted - 2014.04.02 15:16:00 - [4] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Return TV, get 27" computer screen with Hdmi input. Win. pagl1u M wrote: 61??? It is way too Big to play an fps, even 47 is too much! Wait wait wait... you're telling me you DON'T play on huge panels? I've been doing this wrong all this time? Aside from have to turn my head to see the edges of the screen properly the 47" was fine. I just figured I would need to adjust to the size of the 60" or maybe move my seat back further.
Adell Shinzumakami Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 124	Posted - 2014.04.02 15:37:00 - [5] - Quote Be happy... I'm playing on a 12" I GÖÑ RoadKill Closed BETA vet - CLOAKING
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 364	Posted - 2014.04.02 16:53:00 - [6] - Quote Play on a 61, it's nice for vehicles -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2154	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:14:00 - [7] - Quote I play on a 58" and murder just fine. Just sit further back, dude. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Yheska Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 47	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:25:00 - [8] - Quote I have a 61 in now and it took a while to get use to it but the best fixer sitting further back so that u can see every thing with out Turing ur head.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 161	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:25:00 - [9] - Quote It took me like a week to adjust from my 55inch to my 60inch had to buy a smaller couch. LoL 4KD Minmatar Assault Weapon sp refund please
Mr Retsof VI Thale's Armament Company 71	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:26:00 - [10] - Quote First World Problems...... but really, I've got two 36" flats in my game room. PS3 on one, and Cable on the other....was meant to be for a PS3/Sports on TV set up but it quickly became PS3 and whatever my Wife wants to watch.... what I'm saying is this.....get a dual TV set up and don't tell your Wife... Launch Day+3 Vet--Full time Sniper--Part time Bomber

RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:28:00 - [11] - Quote I play on a 50" and recently started also playing on a 24" The 50" I'm about 6-7 feet from and have no problems. I actually think it's easier to see suits moving at greater distances on this screen because of relative size. The 24" I'm about 2 feet from because it's my computer monitor. General play on this is equal to my 50" for me. I do feel like I get killed by people at distance that I just don't see though. Move back from your 61" so the whole screen is in your field of view, you'll be fine. You're supposed to be roughly 1.5 times the diagonal of your screen away anyways (Ex. 61 x 1.5 = 91.2" or 7.625 feet away)
G Torq ALTA B2O 599	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:28:00 - [12] - Quote check if you have any input processing, that you can turn off, or if the telly has a Game Mode Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 73	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:29:00 - [13] - Quote I'll be moving furniture around when I get home tonight. I have like 8' of space behind where everything is now. Everything just seemed too big and I couldn't get my kill circle on anything.
Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 275	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:32:00 - [14] - Quote I use a 22 lcd over my 50 plasma anyday Hit me with your nerf bat.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1904	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:32:00 - [15] - Quote Some HDTVs have a fairly big(i.e. unplayable) input lag. Sometimes there's a 'Game Mode' setting that is meant to minimize this lag. Check out http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/ to see what your TV's input lag is like. The list really shows you how big a difference there is between monitors and TVs. When you add normal network lag to TV input lag to PS3 controller lag things can get rough fast. I support SP rollover.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8013	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:32:00 - [16] - Quote I had these problems too, got used to it. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Zimander 35	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:35:00 - [17] - Quote WOW JUST 61" I'm playing on 96" and it just blowing my mind
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:36:00 - [18] - Quote Zimander wrote: WOW JUST 61" I'm playing on 96" and it just blowing my mind That's it... I'm bringing my PS3 into the office and playing on our 120" projection
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1622	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:40:00 - [19] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: I've been playing on my trusty 47" LCD since closed beta but decided it was time for an upgrade. I went and picked up a 61" and proceeded to go 1-20 over the course of 2.5 matches. Nerf Contrast Nerf Sharpness Nerf the ******* Backlight There are tons of study's on professional gaming Monitors and screens. Where to big is actually WORSE for how FPS games work. When the screen get's to big it forces you to move your eyes from one side to the other to take in all the information... Sometimes spacing yourself away from the TV at a certain distance can get rid of this... There is actually a calculation for Human eye field of view... So you can measure the distance you need to be away from the screen for your eyes to be able to take all the information in without having to move. But this is a well known fact in competitive FPS gamers. To big of a screen will ruin your instant reflex ability and ability to take all the information in. This is why you see alot of people play on 30-40' Computer monitors.. You generally get better performance for your buck and that is all the size of screen your eyes can take in without starting to have to move around. I Believe the max limit is 42' For the Human eye not having to move... I tried to link you the information but it's in a passworded hardware forum. Edit* People have got rid of the screen size caps.. By Building a concave screen setup http://origin.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/panoply.jpg Or the new monitors that they are starting to build.. http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u69/Curved_Display.jpg
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 2950	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:42:00 - [20] - Quote Are you using a hi speed hdmi? I tried one and it totally ruined it for me, had to switch back. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 74	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:48:00 - [21] - Quote I'm currently sitting around 8 feet from the TV and I have to turn my head and move my eyes and turn my head more than I'd like. I'll move everything back and sit 12' away to see how that works. The TV does have a Game mode that I'll switch too, and I need to make sure the processing is off on the PS3s input. Thanks for all the input guys. Hopefully I'll be able to kill all of you again later! =P
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 74	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:53:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: I've been playing on my trusty 47" LCD since closed beta but decided it was time for an upgrade. I went and picked up a 61" and proceeded to go 1-20 over the course of 2.5 matches. Nerf Contrast Nerf Sharpness Nerf the ******* Backlight There are tons of study's on professional gaming Monitors and screens. Where to big is actually WORSE for how FPS games work. When the screen get's to big it forces you to move your eyes from one side to the other to take in all the information... Sometimes spacing yourself away from the TV at a certain distance can get rid of this... There is actually a calculation for Human eye field of view... So you can measure the distance you need to be away from the screen for your eyes to be able to take all the information in without having to move. But this is a well known fact in competitive FPS gamers. To big of a screen will ruin your instant reflex ability and ability to take all the information in. This is why you see alot of people play on 30-40' Computer monitors.. You generally get better performance for your buck and that is all the size of screen your eyes can take in without starting to have to move around. I Believe the max limit is 42' For the Human eye not having to move... I tried to link you the information but it's in a passworded hardware forum. Edit* People have got rid of the screen size caps.. By Building a concave screen setup http://origin.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/panoply.jpg Or the new monitors that they are starting to build.. http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u69/Curved_Display.jpg I feel like I'm about to spend a LOT more money looking at that.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 48	Posted - 2014.04.02 17:59:00 - [23] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Are you using a hi speed hdmi? I tried one and it totally ruined it for me, had to switch back. wat?
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 244	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:16:00 - [24] - Quote You want virtually no input lag? CRTs are known to be the best screens for gaming. The best CRTs ever made was by Sony, what you want is the last line they ever made, their "Super Fine Pitch" Trinitrons. They do not make these anymore, but they are very very good. After calibration it's better than a Pioneer Kuro Plasma. See if you can find one used. My set for example is 34XBR910, my god the picture and sound is amazing, sets a bit heavy though.
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN 204	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:07:00 - [25] - Quote get online and search for Optimum Picture Settings for your make and model of TV ... It will make a big difference. The factory default settings are fine for watching television in your home, but for Gaming you really need the optimum settings to bring out all the fine detail. nothing to see here ... move along
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 219	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:16:00 - [26] - Quote I two year old 22 inch 1080 and it's amazing, I can't play on a big screen... too much looking around.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4352	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:17:00 - [27] - Quote Bro, I got a 70' tried to play DUST on it and nearly cried...it looked BEAUTIFUL but it's far too big. Now I play DUST on my 24' PS Display. When a TV is huge like that you can see too much at once, and it screws with you because your peripheral vision is picking up more than it was used to in the game. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 326	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:17:00 - [28] - Quote I play on a 19" with my face away by only around 2 feet. Not sure why, but I always liked playing on smaller screens. I always feel like it looks better too. "Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!" -Badass Gallante Sentinel- I feed on tanker tears...
Dalmont Legrand 363	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:18:00 - [29] - Quote Get far from screen and shut up. Your eyes can't focus due to lack of adaptation, it will pass with time. The best is yet to come CPM1 Fabulous Candidate
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 441	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:20:00 - [30] - Quote I've always noticed that bigger TVs make for a bad FPS experience. Few things you can try is messing with your TV settings IE the ones you mentioned. These games aren't meant to run in 1080p either, so if you can dumb down your resolution that will help as well. Alternatively you can just use your old TV if you still have it for gaming only now, that's what I do.



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