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Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2351	Posted - 2014.04.02 10:34:00 - [1] - Quote Add Swarm Launcher Turrets. Range 300m Elevation: 90-¦ Sorted As for the OP stop whining you don't have your crutch anymore. With the Hardener Nerfs a Forge Gun is enough to deal with 80% of Assault Dropship Pilots. Get over it. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2351	Posted - 2014.04.02 10:38:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: The problem wasn't range, it was elevation. If they had kept the range and lowered elevation, then things would have been more balanced. Also, try seeing anything higher than 100m in an ADS, let alone hitting it. Try seeing anything and hitting anything at 100m with a rail gun, especially if its moving. You're missiles have splash, if we miss you in the air, the shot keeps going and you take 0 damage. See section (b) at the end of my post. It really is that easy though, I did it all the time. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2353	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:56:00 - [3] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: i think the best way to fix this mess is to let rail guns hit up to 450 or 500 and remove the stacking skill of fire rate and ammo on ADS. So completly screw over ADS pilots, got it. I guess we should also lower the flight ceiling to 20m Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2355	Posted - 2014.04.02 13:40:00 - [4] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My ADS no longer dies I just fly away Only way to kill it is to crash a DS into it and generally it has to be done by the bluedots, i think judge tried to do it yday along with pyrex lol I find them dead easy to shot down with a forge, mlt no damage mods. Or a railtank proped up on a nearby hill to get good elevation. I've taken one down from the back of a lav, couple of light railgun rounds to rear portside quadrant and most pilots will crash from the impact alone. Don't try and take other peoples toys away just cause you can't go 40/0 anymore. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2355	Posted - 2014.04.02 13:45:00 - [5] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: what mess? seriously rail tanks pwn ADS, you just can't do it from the redline (on most maps) anymore. And I seriously doubt that furry, I've said nothing that is worthy of a ban, not compared to your comments on a certain subject in the locker room, got a new word for ya bub, hypocrite I'll be surprised if you don't need to look that one up. yes and with out rail guns ADS pwns everything ! fair in my book that the ADS has a counter to it other then a FG that can be killed by small arms fire or one hit by a ADS on top of all that using FG on a ADS is like trying to play duck hunt with a charge up hand gun and the TV is moving as well and thats not factoring in the speed of the ASD the TA of the round and the fact when using the FG you have to run a Heavy suit with cost more and the only good FG,s to use on a ADS is costs alot and the fact the ADS can be anywhere at any time as it can fly ! your looking at most ADS with some skill can rack up 20-0 in a ambush on avg. that and ADS lv for fire rate stacks on to it gunners making it more OP and i can go on and on over all the things that make ADS OP now that rail gun range has been nerfed to a range in with a ADS can over take it with speed or just flying up. YOU guys i say must be the most lucky roll in game seeing how you can be In the battle zone and kill at will and be safe ! and only have to watch out for FG,s and only if they can see or hit you and that only if they have a FG that can kill you ! see im not against you guys im for you i mean Wow all the stuff AV has to go tho to get to just land a hit on you only have 1 AV out there that can kill you and its so EZ to kill them befor they can even see you. i just hope CCP don't clip your wings anytime soon im loving this ONE SIDED GAME ROLL YOU FLYING HERE ! I have gone 20/0, 30/0, 40/0 in games before with my Python simply because I'm experienced at it. However, I often do not get to reach these scores, especially in the current build now seeing as forge guns wreck and swarms actually do damage. AV is at a perfect spot in my opinion. A clever pilot gets out of the firefight before he takes critical damage, which usually leads to his survival but prevents him from killing the enemy easily. Just because you can't one shot us anymore with your forge gun or rail tank doesn't mean CCP are going to listen to your whimsical cries of "nerf the ADS!" . If you want to kill us, get your squadmates to co-ordinate firepower on the attacking dropship; time your swarm volleys, forge gun rounds. This isn't a one on one anymore. Get with the times. True I have seen you in action just before 1.8 hit, was darned annoying especially since you can't use a JLAV when there are 6 of them on the field. However I would say ADS need to be encouraged to take 2 side gunners with them more often. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2355	Posted - 2014.04.02 13:49:00 - [6] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My ADS no longer dies I just fly away Only way to kill it is to crash a DS into it and generally it has to be done by the bluedots, i think judge tried to do it yday along with pyrex lol I find them dead easy to shot down with a forge, mlt no damage mods. Or a railtank proped up on a nearby hill to get good elevation. I've taken one down from the back of a lav, couple of light railgun rounds to rear portside quadrant and most pilots will crash from the impact alone. Don't try and take other peoples toys away just cause you can't go 40/0 anymore. Dont look at me I didnt ask for the vehicle hardener/railgun nerfs That was you and infantry Oh no? Wasn't it tankers and Dropship pilots complaing about redline railguns? Didn't tankers complain about the poor performance of blasters against other tanks? Infantry said we wanted an AV re-buff and to stop hardeners being cycled/stacked. Neither of these were given to us, so if vehicle users hadn't complained about blasters against tanks you might have kept your crutch, tough luck though eh? Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2355	Posted - 2014.04.02 13:54:00 - [7] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My ADS no longer dies I just fly away Only way to kill it is to crash a DS into it and generally it has to be done by the bluedots, i think judge tried to do it yday along with pyrex lol I find them dead easy to shot down with a forge, mlt no damage mods. Or a railtank proped up on a nearby hill to get good elevation. I've taken one down from the back of a lav, couple of light railgun rounds to rear portside quadrant and most pilots will crash from the impact alone. Don't try and take other peoples toys away just cause you can't go 40/0 anymore. mlt forge gun takes 4 seconds to charge and has a 3 mag cap, it can only kill a dumb@ss pilot, railtanks work too well, but a light railgun will overheat at least twice before even taking the shields off a python without extenders Dumbass pilots are fine by me, although on regular occasion you can drop even the best pilots with a well placed shot, ADS are rather unstable and prehaps should even be made more so. But I have shot down my fair share of pilots using just a mlt forge. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2355	Posted - 2014.04.02 13:59:00 - [8] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: My ADS no longer dies I just fly away Only way to kill it is to crash a DS into it and generally it has to be done by the bluedots, i think judge tried to do it yday along with pyrex lol I find them dead easy to shot down with a forge, mlt no damage mods. Or a railtank proped up on a nearby hill to get good elevation. I've taken one down from the back of a lav, couple of light railgun rounds to rear portside quadrant and most pilots will crash from the impact alone. Don't try and take other peoples toys away just cause you can't go 40/0 anymore. Dont look at me I didnt ask for the vehicle hardener/railgun nerfs That was you and infantry Oh no? Wasn't it tankers and Dropship pilots complaing about redline railguns? Didn't tankers complain about the poor performance of blasters against other tanks? Infantry said we wanted an AV re-buff and to stop hardeners being cycled/stacked. Neither of these were given to us, so if vehicle users hadn't complained about blasters against tanks you might have kept your crutch, tough luck though eh? DS complained more about rails than anyone I expected blaster to do badly against tanks since it was more AI than AV Hardener nerf = AV buff but they are stacked more because 1 hardener is now quite useless So yea infantry got what they wanted There are plenty of threads with tankers complaining about RedLine Railsl YOU may have done but the rest of the tanker community didn't even your old friend Spkr complained about blasters doing poor damage to other tanks, that rails were the be all and end all of vehicle on vehicle AV. So as I said it was to apease vehicle users more, the fact AV got a buff (after just being nerfed again) is icing on the cake as far as CCP is concerned. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2359	Posted - 2014.04.02 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: 8213 wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: The problem wasn't range, it was elevation. If they had kept the range and lowered elevation, then things would have been more balanced. Also, try seeing anything higher than 100m in an ADS, let alone hitting it. Try seeing anything and hitting anything at 100m with a rail gun, especially if its moving. You're missiles have splash, if we miss you in the air, the shot keeps going and you take 0 damage. See section (b) at the end of my post. It really is that easy though, I did it all the time. Also extra point. You say try seeing and hitting anything with a rail gun at 100m, if it really is that difficult increasing range won't make it any eaaier. That statement is the entire failing of your argument, your not concerned about ADSs your concerned that you have to leave the safety of your own redline. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.

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