Think about this one...

1. LOOK AT THIS PICTURE The purple is where an ADS can be where a tank can't shoot it. It's actually more than the picture shows, because the ADS can also be above and behind the tank.

2. ADS pilots complain that they can't engage a tank that's in the red line. Which is isn't true, as missiles travel 200m. Now before you complain that its almost impossible to hit anything at 200m, how about you just HTFU and git gud, okay?

3. Ambush doesn't have a redline.

4. When a tank is sitting in the redline, an ADS can't hover over the tank long enough to kill it. But when a tank is out of the redline, a tank can't get reach an ADS because the ADS has free space. An ADS can float 1m above a tank and the tank can't do anything about it.

So, ADSes complaining they can't engage tanks in the redline have it turned completely in their favor when the tank is out of the redline. Thus balance. And before any ADS pilots come in here and complain about something they are delusional about, remember a few things: a) you didn't read and think about the very post you're at the end of. b) You don't tank, so don't assume that ADSes can be shot down as easy as we make it look c) Go back and look at that picture, and tell me how it's fair that you have that much safe zone (and more) and think that's balanced when the only AV in the game that's practical for an ADS is Railgun. d) you're just as, if not more, OP than tanks. ADS spam is much worse than tank spam. Thank god we don't have Militia ADSes.

hah! dirty grass, or as we say in my culture, dog.

what mess? seriously rail tanks pwn ADS, you just can't do it from the redline (on most maps) anymore.

And I seriously doubt that furry, I've said nothing that is worthy of a ban, not compared to your comments on a certain subject in the locker room, got a new word for ya bub, hypocrite I'll be surprised if you don't need to look that one up.

So completly screw over ADS pilots, got it.
I guess we should also lower the flight ceiling to 20m

I noticed your diagram provides no indication of how small a portion of that "huge safe zone" is actually within the range of the weapons it carries.

Yes, there's a massive space where the ADS can be safe, but there's ALSO an almost-as-massive space where the HAV is just as safe from the ADS.

I love how you say Pilots just whine about everything when cry baby tankers crying about how OP AV was, made AV as crappy as it is right now all because tankers complain how 1 person should not be able to take out a tank. Makes sense.....

Have you seen a triple missile turret python? It's insane... but I'd leave it has it is, as it requires every person with a gun to have skill into pythons

Wrong from the start to the end, and I talk as ADS pilot, swarm proto player and "pseudo tanker" to my lost hours.
I have take down 2 incubus and 1 python, with simply a SOMA and its militia blaster turret. The damager do the rest of the work for me (as CCP completely forget to NERF them alongside hardeners).
The other day, I lost my python (more exactly I was running some fitting tests and ) and I was taken down by a methana with a railgun on it's back.

If you want to take ADS down, become more creative than to use some sica with a railgun on the redline.

I have take down 2 incubus and 1 python, with simply a SOMA and its militia blaster turret.

(as CCP completely forget to NERF them alongside hardeners).

The other day, I lost my python (more exactly I was running some fitting tests and ) and I was taken down by a methana with a railgun on it's back