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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:58:00 -
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Since cloaked scouts are out I've been running three complex precision enhancers when I can and two when I can't fit it but yeah, boy what a difference.
3 puts me around 15db so yeah, non scouts with a cloak have no chance and brick tanked scrub scouts don't either. They're real cute though, running around invisible with a huge red chevron over their head.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4356
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:00:00 -
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Thank you for adapting and not crying.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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PEW JACKSON
Fatal Absolution
253
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:08:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying.
You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday.
How does one adapt to that kind of coordination?
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
198
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:11:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying.
Don't get it twisted, I'm also a scout ck.0. I've adapted alright.
But yeah, I'm trying to help out some people with their medium and heavy frames. You'd be surprised at what a few precision enhancers would do for you.
One of my favorite suits right now is the Cal Heavy with a complex shield regulator, two complex precisions, a complex reactive plus an HMG. In a closed room hallway you will lose to the armored up heavy but in an open space you can strafe your ass off and when you're hurt, just a few seconds behind cover fixes that. No logi required. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4356
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:18:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination?
Whoops! XD
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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PEW JACKSON
Fatal Absolution
254
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:20:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination? Whoops! XD
You both can cause seizures. I mean everything happened soo fast 
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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M1tch Rapp
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
87
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:24:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination? Whoops! XD
Please upload video |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7756
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:54:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination?
Counter Coordinate! 
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Zimander
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:01:00 -
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nice but still u be unable to see my scout my profile dampener is on 11.8 db + -25% when im clock ... have fun finding me |
Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
597
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:29:00 -
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@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1402
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:44:00 -
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2 Complex Precision enhancers and a Damp is standard on all my fits now
And thanks to constantly hanging out with Radar R4D-47, Moody and Musturd I have Nova Knife Fever 
The Sinwarden
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1402
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:45:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination? Whoops! XD
The Sinwarden
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
321
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:46:00 -
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2 complex damps are a regular fitting for my gal scout these days
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
829
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:54:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Since cloaked scouts are out I've been running three complex precision enhancers when I can and two when I can't fit it but yeah, boy what a difference.
3 puts me around 15db so yeah, non scouts with a cloak have no chance and brick tanked scrub scouts don't either. They're real cute though, running around invisible with a huge red chevron over their head.
Sipey, snipe, snipe
*wink*
Munch
Minmatar Patriot (Level 7)
Dedicated Sniper
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4365
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:05:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation
It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts.
Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team?
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1404
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:10:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts. Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team?
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
The Sinwarden
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
201
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:15:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation
Seriously I run two proto precisions, I see everything. Put some skills in passive before you say you're blind in the suit. I've only had one guy get under my passive and I just threw another one on and picked him up. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4366
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:15:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
I agree. Squad compositions are becoming more and more important.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
224
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:18:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts. Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team?
So your saying I should gimp my already glimped suit more.
Know what yeah sure i'm going to go a head and make myself easier to kill
better yet i'll just go into the red line and blow myself up with
Re's tts easier that way.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
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Viktor Vikrizi
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
54
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:21:00 -
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I've been running around in my cal logi suit with 3x adv precision enhancers and a mass driver. Lets just say most scouts didn't survive long unless they were tanked.
"This is war. You never want to fight fair. You want to sneak up behind your enemy and club him over the head."
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4369
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:23:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts. Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team? So your saying I should gimp my already glimped suit more. Know what yeah sure i'm going to go a head and make myself easier to kill better yet i'll just go into the red line and blow myself up with Re's tts easier that way.
If you you use teamwork you don't need an 800 hp logi suit to survive. There's a reason why people have always survived in their scout suits with less than 400hp even before cloaks.
This is a team based game and people should be balancing their squads and fits to complement and support each other. If you have one properly e-war tanked suit in your squad and you stick together you won't get snuck up on unless it's a gal scout. Fact, not fiction.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1406
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:25:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts. Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team? So your saying I should gimp my already glimped suit more. Know what yeah sure i'm going to go a head and make myself easier to kill better yet i'll just go into the red line and blow myself up with Re's tts easier that way.
Whats the point of having half a shotgun shots worth of shields extra when you can instead have the chance to see where your enemies are an kill them before they kill you. Don't let EHP replace lack of situational awareness, the latter will get you farther in this game. With that said, it is tough being a logi, as a scout the logi is always the priority target.
Again, run in a proper squad and being a logi will become that much more enjoyable
The Sinwarden
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1406
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:26:00 -
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Moody, you got this, no point having to preachers in one church.
*Exits Thread*
o/
The Sinwarden
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
204
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:51:00 -
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This game has always been who gets the drop on who first. It's not all about HP it's about awareness. I didn't skill into precision before because I had 360 scans, now I'm level 5 precision because scanners are booty. Adapt or die. |
Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
225
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:52:00 -
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If this game is teamed based then surely some of my assault brothers can take on more responsibility then just shooting at things.
Why is the logi class the first to always be told how they should play there suits and I wouldn't ever run 750 armor on my suit I'd be to slow to do my job properly.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1413
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:53:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:If this game is teamed based then s surely some of my assault brothers can take on more responsibility then shooting at things.
Maybe you need better Assault bros ;) Or tell em to start shooting at Redberries, it usually helps
The Sinwarden
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Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
225
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:58:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:If this game is teamed based then s surely some of my assault brothers can take on more responsibility then shooting at things. Maybe you need better Assault bros ;) Or tell em to start shooting at Redberries, it usually helps
Ya know what I think your on to something there.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
3998
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:58:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Since cloaked scouts are out I've been running three complex precision enhancers when I can and two when I can't fit it but yeah, boy what a difference.
3 puts me around 15db so yeah, non scouts with a cloak have no chance and brick tanked scrub scouts don't either. They're real cute though, running around invisible with a huge red chevron over their head.
You adapt to the cloak, and I adapt to my hunters.
My current trick is to let them think I don't notice them either.
Just by running a complex precision myself, I can track Cal Scouts who don't dampen their suits.
That, or just getting good at noticing the shimmer. With only 1 slot left for shields, I can take a hunter down if I can surprise him.
I love this new battlefield. The Minja is the ultimate hunter of med and heavy frames, but I have to watch out for my own natural enemy now
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
911
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:12:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. You and Tiberius made me rage yesterday. How does one adapt to that kind of coordination? Whoops! XD You both can cause seizures. I mean everything happened soo fast
Speaking of seizures, is there a way to bind keys to cloak on a keyboard? because I had a guy cloaking shooting his shotgun and beign recloaked half way trough the shot gun blast they side hopign and doing it again. all the decloakign and recloakign hurt my eyes.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
206
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:17:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
I agree. Squad compositions are becoming more and more important.
Proper squid composition?
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1418
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:18:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:Proper squid calamari?
The Sinwarden
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4380
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:21:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
I agree. Squad compositions are becoming more and more important. Proper squid composition? -Aramis
Love dem squids.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1419
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:22:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aramis Madrigal wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
I agree. Squad compositions are becoming more and more important. Proper squid composition? -Aramis Love dem squids.
*Compulsively refreshes Moody's Youtube page to watch footage from yesterday's game*
The Sinwarden
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4381
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:32:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aramis Madrigal wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I think the most important thing to consider now, which has already been prevalent pre 1.8 but more urgent now, is having a proper squad.
The only suits that can truly solo matches are Scouts, and the best out of the bunch to solo in is the Calamari
I agree. Squad compositions are becoming more and more important. Proper squid composition? -Aramis Love dem squids. *Compulsively refreshes Moody's Youtube page to watch footage from yesterday's game*
Uploading right meow. ^_^
splitting up the footage though. Going to use bits and pieces for another video but you and I have an awesome fight against 2 heavies at the beginning.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1420
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:34:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:
Uploading right meow. ^_^
splitting up the footage though. Going to use bits and pieces for another video but you and I have an awesome fight against 2 heavies at the beginning.
We need to do more Duo scout aswesomeness, It'd be awesome synergy practice for PC too. Me and Musturd used to practice running together all the time, I miss him :(
The Sinwarden
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Bunny Demon
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
105
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Posted - 2014.04.01 21:16:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:@Cyrius: That really only applies to scouts though. I'm in an advanced Cal assault with 1-2 profile damps in the lows, two complex extenders, and maybe a basic precision enhancer. The problem is that, for my suit anyways, I am blind. No amount of precision or range amps can fix that. And I don't know how to adapt to that situation It's not everyone's job to tank precision. Logi's have the second best tacnet stats next to scouts. Perhaps people should fit their logi's to support their team? So your saying I should gimp my already glimped suit more. Know what yeah sure i'm going to go a head and make myself easier to kill better yet i'll just go into the red line and blow myself up with Re's tts easier that way.
You can't blow yourself up with re's in the enemy red line as equipment won't stay deployed in their red zone so your statement is a failure
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
486
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Posted - 2014.04.01 22:23:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thank you for adapting and not crying. Don't get it twisted, I'm also a scout ck.0. I've adapted alright. But yeah, I'm trying to help out some people with their medium and heavy frames. You'd be surprised at what a few precision enhancers would do for you. One of my favorite suits right now is the Cal Heavy with a complex shield regulator, two complex precisions, a complex reactive plus an HMG. In a closed room hallway you will lose to the armored up heavy but in an open space you can strafe your ass off and when you're hurt, just a few seconds behind cover fixes that. No logi required.
How are you reaping with a regulator in one low slot if you don't need a logi ???
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
210
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:53:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:
How are you reaping with a regulator in one low slot if you don't need a logi ???
I mistyped that, it's complex shield recharger. The complex reactive plate gives me 2 a second but I'm relying on basically just my 600 shields, my 1 second shield recharge delay (which is really like 3-4 seconds definitely not 1) and the complex recharge puts me at like 44 shield per second. The complex reactive plate puts me right around 1100 total HP. But like I said, two complex precision enhancers and you see the battlefield so well just make sure you are strafing your ass off against other heavies. |
Rasp Terriblz
Knights of Eternal Darkness
League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:38:00 -
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I run my Minja Ewar with a caldari scout friend from my corp :) we relay info back and forthand tend to get the jump on several unsuspecting suits. When things go south we duck around the corner where a heavy friendly is waiting to mop up the comp. Moody, your videos are an inspiration for me and Im glad you have not abandoned the ole rust bucket! Tetnus kills bro. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
1133
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:45:00 -
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Precision Enhancers have ALWAYS been good use of a high slot but because of the recent FOTM's and desire for shield tank over any other consideration it's only now, when the overall TTD as increased and the scouts newfound buffness, that players are waking up to them.
So to all that have been screaming about scouts being OP, the counter has always been there. You just had to find it.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
875
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:57:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:If you you use teamwork you don't need an 800 hp logi suit to survive. There's a reason why people have always survived in their scout suits with less than 400hp even before cloaks.
Depends on the type of situation and the location where you are positioned really, but yes.
Now to get people in scout and heavy suits to actually teamplay...
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4796
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:24:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Now to get people in scout and heavy suits to actually teamplay...
The best of both already do.
Just like the best Logis and Assaults do.
And just like the best tanks and Dropships do. |
martinofski
Onsencaliss
329
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:32:00 -
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Yep, I guess the Precision Enhancement is the new standard now that Dmg mods got reduces and cloak in the new shinny toy.
Too bad I got only 1 high slot on my cheep dren suit...still better than nothing. I can see cloaked assault or Logy, but scout, no.
The best part is how they feel invisible when they aren't really, make them their own counter. |
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