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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 14:45:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Judge is coming after your rep stacking. Clarity
I know right . People should stop posting what their fits are because everyone will call out OP and when you get nerf'd , you have NO ONE to blame but yourself unless that was the intention to begin with .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 14:57:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:It's only gotten more unbalanced with the hardener nerfs.
Well, vehicles vs AV is in a slightly better spot now, but vehicles vs vehicles is ****** up right now, and that's what I care about. A 0 SP Sica with a MLT hardener and MLT damage mod shouldn't be able to melt right through my hardener with about 14 million SP that are directly affecting my Gunnlogi.
And I still am of the opinion that swarms shouldn't stop hardened shield regen. They are specialized for anti-armor after all, you want them capable of hurting shields too? It's like wanting bug spray to deter sharks when you're in the ocean.
Yesterday I fell in love with a near 0 SP, militia fit, triple rep Madrugar and I even put some SP for the repairer skill to 3, now I got 345 armor/s and I can out rep the damage from any militia and standard AV. I only need to pull back for a few seconds when I'm taking more damage and I'm back at full strength.
CCP, you clearly nerfed the wrong module. The hardeners were at no fault!
So what your saying is that they should have nerf'd the repairers ???
You people will never learn and when your vehicles are useless you will want a refund but your leading the charge to kill your own role . You vehicle users need to stop talking so much because there are enough in the community who would love to make what we do useless and you just give them fuel for their fire .
STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR FITS !!!!!
They should have increased the stacking penalty for stacking damage mods and nothing else . That's all that needed to be changed . The hardener nerf was alright but that doesn't stop stacking damage mods and if anything increases that fact . nerfing the rail gun was needed , 600 m is just too much coverage for any weapon .
Increase penalty for stacking damage mods and decrease the stacked damage increase .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 15:01:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I actually meant I was going to try kill his tanks with my swarms, Forge or ADS. The resulting misunderstanding was interesting however.
I could understand that but people need to use that inner voice .
Tanks get the bulk of the hate posting , it's been somewhat changed because of cloaks but for the last month or two tanks have been the center of discussion and what will result from that campaign has yet to be seen but it won't be pretty .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 15:02:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Harpyja wrote:It's only gotten more unbalanced with the hardener nerfs.
Well, vehicles vs AV is in a slightly better spot now, but vehicles vs vehicles is ****** up right now, and that's what I care about. A 0 SP Sica with a MLT hardener and MLT damage mod shouldn't be able to melt right through my hardener with about 14 million SP that are directly affecting my Gunnlogi.
And I still am of the opinion that swarms shouldn't stop hardened shield regen. They are specialized for anti-armor after all, you want them capable of hurting shields too? It's like wanting bug spray to deter sharks when you're in the ocean.
Yesterday I fell in love with a near 0 SP, militia fit, triple rep Madrugar and I even put some SP for the repairer skill to 3, now I got 345 armor/s and I can out rep the damage from any militia and standard AV. I only need to pull back for a few seconds when I'm taking more damage and I'm back at full strength.
CCP, you clearly nerfed the wrong module. The hardeners were at no fault! So what your saying is that they should have nerf'd the repairers ??? You people will never learn and when your vehicles are useless you will want a refund but your leading the charge to kill your own role . You vehicle users need to stop talking so much because there are enough in the community who would love to make what we do useless and you just give them fuel for their fire . STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR FITS !!!!! They should have increased the stacking penalty for stacking damage mods and nothing else . That's all that needed to be changed . The hardener nerf was alright but that doesn't stop stacking damage mods and if anything increases that fact . Nerfing the rail gun was needed , 600 m is just too much coverage for any weapon . Increase penalty for stacking damage mods and decrease the stacked damage increase . So then you'll agree on a range nerf for the sniper rifle?
They don't shoot 600 m .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.03.31 15:19:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I actually meant I was going to try kill his tanks with my swarms, Forge or ADS. The resulting misunderstanding was interesting however. I could understand that but people need to use that inner voice . Tanks get the bulk of the hate posting , it's been somewhat changed because of cloaks but for the last month or two tanks have been the center of discussion and what will result from that campaign has yet to be seen but it won't be pretty . I should have been more careful in my choice of words. But the resulting hate did add some true value to the discussion, so I am kind of pleased it went that way, although the name calling by one person was perhaps a touch abrasive. It seems tankers feel threatened, quite rightly with the recent changes coming out with so little notice. my simple one line about hunting down his tank to kill him, to show he is not invulnerable; was taken to mean I was after his fitting. Why did people assume that? That question leads to some interesting answers. It does show us that CCPs changes can unsettle sections of the community and make them feel attacked. They should be defended if the attacks against them are unfounded.
You said it Judge ... you said it .
Instant guards up . It's very unsettling and makes it hard to enjoy a role that , if one likes it ... should bring about enjoyment and not some defensive / guilt feeling .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:10:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:[quote=Garrett Blacknova][quote=MarasdF Loron]
I'm tired of arguing about the same stuff over and over again, just gimme back my 1.6 AV and Vehicles. Like naow. CCP, right, fcking, naow!
1.6 had more of a variety but the tanks were garbage against the swarms .
Now add in remote explosives and the fact that people are using proxies as well , that is a bad combination .
I miss the slot layout , missile ... rail gun ... blasters turrets and mods but not the frailness of those tanks .
I kind of like what MarasdF just wrote though about the comparisons .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:15:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:[quote=MarasdF Loron][quote=Garrett Blacknova][quote=MarasdF Loron][quote=Judge Rhadamanthus]
there just no way around it !
making tanking to simple in game has by far been the biggest thing Holding this game back !
this way drop ships tanks lav,s dont have to run only 1 or 2 fits because that's all that works
if you open up more ways to tank you end up with more fits and happier players not just tankers and drop ships but AV to
the new players not crying over the games to hard to tank its that the only way to tank or fit and do anything is 6 months away in SP !
This ^^^^ ... couldn't agree with these statements anymore than to have said them myself but you beat me to it FURRY .
Agreed .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:44:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:[quote=Judge Rhadamanthus]
there just no way around it !
making tanking to simple in game has by far been the biggest thing Holding this game back !
this way drop ships tanks lav,s dont have to run only 1 or 2 fits because that's all that works
if you open up more ways to tank you end up with more fits and happier players not just tankers and drop ships but AV to
the new players not crying over the games to hard to tank its that the only way to tank or fit and do anything is 6 months away in SP ! This ^^^^ ... couldn't agree with these statements anymore than to have said them myself but you beat me to it FURRY . Agreed . https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tankingand https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Damage_types#Damage_TypesIF we just do this new players even ones as old as 1 week can skill in to the base stuff and fit a tank or a drop ship that can tank 1 or 2 kinds of dmg but will be weak vsing the other 2 and they dont need pro mods to be good but they wont be as good as pro lv but could at lest DO stuff in game in game ! this means there all ways a way for someone to counter you and all ways other fits then just go shield with 3 hardeners or go armor with speed mod and reps what ever it is Must be all Pro mods !
I am all about variety and chances to make anything better .
Hopefully CCP will see this post and stop reading one's like Sir Dukey's writing about trying to get more HAV nerfs and we will be alright . We need more constructive feedback for them to consider positive changes and not just killing with nerf bats .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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