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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:42:00 -
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The Gallente scout is really good at being Gallente getting close, doing a crap ton of damage, and repairing extremely fast while maintaining fast speed.
Barring the brick tanked scout which really a suicide bomber to me, using an AR with a magsec I have found great sucess. Even without a cloak I can take some targets down retreat and recover in a real time frame for an FPS. This is with an AR not a shotgun, although the shotgun scout is good I feel the AR scout is a bit more rewarding and less risky.
So to my fellow Gallente give this a try, also stop brick tanking you are going to get us nerfed over a tactic that doesn't even work well.
For the Federation!
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
2404
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:45:00 -
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Brick tanking just makes you a slow scout. A good scout can get good games with 400 ehp, or less.
If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub
Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good.
Proud member of RND
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2331
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:47:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Brick tanking just makes you a slow scout. A good scout can get good games with 400 ehp, or less.
Brick tanking scouts are just ridiculous. It's show how ignorant people are and how much they just want to have high numbers.
For the Federation!
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Dingleburt Bangledack
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:49:00 -
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The brick scouts are the FOTM chasers. They're like a school of piranhas swarming over whatever build looks the meatiest until it's reduced to skeletal fraction of what it was by CCP's nerf hammer.
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:52:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:The Gallente scout is really good at being Gallente getting close, doing a crap ton of damage, and repairing extremely fast while maintaining fast speed. Barring the brick tanked scout which really a suicide bomber to me, using an AR with a magsec I have found great sucess. Even without a cloak I can take some targets down retreat and recover in a real time frame for an FPS. This is with an AR not a shotgun, although the shotgun scout is good I feel the AR scout is a bit more rewarding and less risky. So to my fellow Gallente give this a try, also stop brick tanking you are going to get us nerfed over a tactic that doesn't even work well.
Brick tanking is not the problem, cloaks are the problem. Brick tanks would just be light infantry units that are slightly faster than assault class but not as high eHP wise. If you can see these pricks coming, if cloaks didnt provide def/offensive advantages thst were undeserved then there would be 0 problems.
Who cares how someone uses their slots, they will always pick the best suit options and so should you. The problem is the cloak and not the player. Cloaks are unnecessary, offer low risk, high reward for **** gameplay and tactics and have no drawbacks or penalties. They are easy mode, a crutch, a turn on and kill button. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:52:00 -
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People who believe brick-tanking a scout makes them better than assault are weird...
Scouts are geared toward running fast. You're basically nerfing them by running them as bulky fits. If you really want to run high defense with some type of speed over heavies and commandos, run a Logi. If you want a mix between defense, mobility, and offense, go with an assault.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:52:00 -
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My Galscout alt was having a ton of fun running the only AR I liked until 1.8... the Breach. His BAR + Flay + Sleek fittings are soul-crushingly useless now. :^( |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1543
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:53:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:The Gallente scout is really good at being Gallente getting close, doing a crap ton of damage, and repairing extremely fast while maintaining fast speed. Barring the brick tanked scout which really a suicide bomber to me, using an AR with a magsec I have found great sucess. Even without a cloak I can take some targets down retreat and recover in a real time frame for an FPS. This is with an AR not a shotgun, although the shotgun scout is good I feel the AR scout is a bit more rewarding and less risky. So to my fellow Gallente give this a try, also stop brick tanking you are going to get us nerfed over a tactic that doesn't even work well. Brick tanking is not the problem, cloaks are the problem. Brick tanks would just be light infantry units that are slightly faster than assault class but not as high eHP wise. If you can see these pricks coming, if cloaks didnt provide def/offensive advantages thst were undeserved then there would be 0 problems. Who cares how someone uses their slots, they will always pick the best suit options and so should you. The problem is the cloak and not the player. Cloaks are unnecessary, offer low risk, high reward for **** gameplay and tactics and have no drawbacks or penalties. They are easy mode, a crutch, a turn on and kill button.
Have they fixed the bugs for the cloak? Also word is that even with the cloaks a lot of them are pretty easy to see coming.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2331
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:57:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:The Gallente scout is really good at being Gallente getting close, doing a crap ton of damage, and repairing extremely fast while maintaining fast speed. Barring the brick tanked scout which really a suicide bomber to me, using an AR with a magsec I have found great sucess. Even without a cloak I can take some targets down retreat and recover in a real time frame for an FPS. This is with an AR not a shotgun, although the shotgun scout is good I feel the AR scout is a bit more rewarding and less risky. So to my fellow Gallente give this a try, also stop brick tanking you are going to get us nerfed over a tactic that doesn't even work well. Brick tanking is not the problem, cloaks are the problem. Brick tanks would just be light infantry units that are slightly faster than assault class but not as high eHP wise. If you can see these pricks coming, if cloaks didnt provide def/offensive advantages thst were undeserved then there would be 0 problems. Who cares how someone uses their slots, they will always pick the best suit options and so should you. The problem is the cloak and not the player. Cloaks are unnecessary, offer low risk, high reward for **** gameplay and tactics and have no drawbacks or penalties. They are easy mode, a crutch, a turn on and kill button.
You know it's easy for me to replace cloak with heavy and make the exact same point and you don't see me complaining about them. I am not even discussing brick tanking.
For the Federation!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11912
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:00:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:My Galscout alt was having a ton of fun running the only AR I liked until 1.8... the Breach. His BAR + Flay + Sleek fittings are soul-crushingly useless now. :^( Don't give in, friend. I'm using the breach AR and ion pistol atm.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2331
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The Eristic wrote:My Galscout alt was having a ton of fun running the only AR I liked until 1.8... the Breach. His BAR + Flay + Sleek fittings are soul-crushingly useless now. :^( Don't give in, friend. I'm using the breach AR and ion pistol atm.
I have been trying to make the ion pistol work for me but it is difficult, how do you make it work.
For the Federation!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11912
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:06:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The Eristic wrote:My Galscout alt was having a ton of fun running the only AR I liked until 1.8... the Breach. His BAR + Flay + Sleek fittings are soul-crushingly useless now. :^( Don't give in, friend. I'm using the breach AR and ion pistol atm. I have been trying to make the ion pistol work for me but it is difficult, how do you make it work.
Use it as a finisher. It doesn't work otherwise. It simply doesn't. You need to use it to augment your primary weapon. It's quicker and more satisfying to get a last couple of shots off with an ion pistol to finish a target than it is to reload your primary.
Admittedly I may be forcing myself to use it like this by using a lacklustre primary as well, but I'm sticking with it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2331
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The Eristic wrote:My Galscout alt was having a ton of fun running the only AR I liked until 1.8... the Breach. His BAR + Flay + Sleek fittings are soul-crushingly useless now. :^( Don't give in, friend. I'm using the breach AR and ion pistol atm. I have been trying to make the ion pistol work for me but it is difficult, how do you make it work. Use it as a finisher. It doesn't work otherwise. It simply doesn't. You need to use it to augment your primary weapon. It's quicker and more satisfying to get a last couple of shots off with an ion pistol to finish a target than it is to reload your primary. Admittedly I may be forcing myself to use it like this by using a lacklustre primary as well, but I'm sticking with it.
until they get fixed and you hold the power of God in your hands. Here come the amarr...
For the Federation!
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2318
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:24:00 -
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There are problems with the Cloaks, call them what you will, but being able to shoot people while cloaked was/is not an intentional design. I mean do you really think they would have gone to the effort of changing the cloak so that changing to anything else would deactivate it, if they still intended to let you fire while cloaked.
Now you can try a defend it by saying but its easy to spot, well to a degree it is provided said cloaked entity is the only thing in your FOV view at full sprint. Because and this is a design feature, he is meant to be hard to spot. Because it was intended that he would not be capable of emptying 20 rounds into his opponent in that state.
HOWEVER cloaks are not the whole problem, Scouts suits currently outclass Assaults just like Logis before them. Scouts are running around with more armour than I have EHP. If that's not enough they are also faster, less scannable, give better passives, have a cloak and 2 equipment slots. Even if we remove the cloak from the equation, there are no possitives to Assaults over Scouts.
That needs to change FAST.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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