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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:04:00 -
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I know it's not a assaults job to passive scan, but 22 meters with max skills and a complex amp is pretty terrible.
What I find so strange is how well precision and damp mods work on a assault. They give you a good advantage and are really actually worth using.
Not a complaint or anything, just a observation.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:09:00 -
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Then don't use them. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:10:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I know it's not a assaults job to passive scan, but 22 meters with max skills and a complex amp is pretty terrible.
What I find so strange is how well precision and damp mods work on a assault. They give you a good advantage and are really actually worth using.
Not a complaint or anything, just a observation.
Yeah I realized that. It's the only thing that I wouldn't really care about too. I mean, sure, range amplifiers working well on an assault would be nice but it isn't needed.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:13:00 -
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Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
591
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:31:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
honestly then only assaults id consider right now are mimnatar and ammar
because they can apply more sustained fire other than that one thing nothing
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
2716
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:45:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
depends on the assault suit.....there are times where I'd prefer to use my assault suit over my scout suit.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:03:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
If only there was someone out there who a couple months ago would have said "Oh hey with these stats you can make a scout be a better assault".... plenty of us did. Anyway, assaults are still plenty viable, just that underpowered things became equal or have surpassed it. I'm sure you can still do plenty of killing Whale you're better at this game than me. If you wanted to chase the flavor of the build there was a respect, you could have played militia stuff, tried stuff out, and specced into what ever you wanted. Sorry, but we vets are the last people that should whine when this occurs its only happened EVERY update.
I saw what was going to be best this build and even spent a couple months using it before it was buffed along with other stuff I knew would be less powerful. 2 of those are assault suits, neither is "useless"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
11904
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:05:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better. depends on the assault suit.....there are times where I'd prefer to use my assault suit over my scout suit.
Such as?
Give a few examples?
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4880
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:06:00 -
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So are Precision mods. Assaults aren't meant to be used as mobile scanners and so they're bad at it.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:10:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better. depends on the assault suit.....there are times where I'd prefer to use my assault suit over my scout suit. Such as? Give a few examples?
When I'm fighting a Sentinel I can use the extra couple shots in my CR mag to get Sentinels to nearly 0 health. Then when they duck behind cover I use the Speed from my Minmatar Assault, and its 300+ shields to run up, jump and elbow the Sentinel to death with a 190+ melee hit from Complex Myofibril stimulant.
And if they're still not dead I can pull out an SMG with 100 rounds in the mag and hose them.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:26:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So are Precision mods. Assaults aren't meant to be used as mobile scanners and so they're bad at it.
Not really, you can get down to 36 scan precision with max skills and a complex mod. Enough to pick up Any heavy or assault provided they aren't running more then 1 damp.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4885
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So are Precision mods. Assaults aren't meant to be used as mobile scanners and so they're bad at it. Not really, you can get down to 36 scan precision with max skills and a complex mod. Enough to pick up Any heavy or assault provided they aren't running more then 1 damp.
If you're going to go through all the trouble then just get a Caldari scout it Heck even a Gallente scout.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
311
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:29:00 -
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precision and range go hand and hand
one will most likely be useless without the other
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Tectonic Fusion
1371
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:43:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
CQC combat rifle battles for me.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1686
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:52:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
Fire an LR or ScR without overheating as much (provided the heat bonus is or will work correctly).
"Stay stealthy scouts."
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5421
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:33:00 -
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What's an assault suit?
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2599
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:39:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
Use a scrambler rifle
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4568
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:48:00 -
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Heavy weapon damage mods are more useless on them
I am your scan error.
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
597
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:49:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better. Use a scrambler rifle
Or a laser, overheat and loose 2/3rds my health 
Mmmm Scout ak.0
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
850
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better. depends on the assault suit.....there are times where I'd prefer to use my assault suit over my scout suit. Such as? Give a few examples?
Any straight up fight the assault should win unless they are terrible. Even the Cal Assault with its reload bonus should beat the scout.
Running to the frontline with a ScR.
Running an MD from an elevated position.
Running with a pack...non scout pack.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4906
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Posted - 2014.03.31 09:14:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So are Precision mods. Assaults aren't meant to be used as mobile scanners and so they're bad at it. Not really, you can get down to 36 scan precision with max skills and a complex mod. Enough to pick up Any heavy or assault provided they aren't running more then 1 damp.
Wait, I have to apologize for my shortness earlier. Did you say a single complex precision mod will get to 36 scan precision?
I ask this because my Minmatar Assault needs high mods that don't take up much CPU and I may just have to start running Precision Enhancers to make use of my 5 high mods.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
552
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Posted - 2014.03.31 09:17:00 -
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Guys, myofibrils are pretty useless on a sniper fit
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
755
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Posted - 2014.03.31 09:33:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
Suck
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
399
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Posted - 2014.03.31 10:17:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Assaults are pretty useless period.
Tell me one thing an Assault can do that a Scout doesn't do better.
Die. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2100
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Posted - 2014.03.31 10:19:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Then don't use them.
Easier said than done!
*uses shield extenders on an armor suit*
Oh, look at that! Nevermind! Carry on, good sir... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4722
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Posted - 2014.03.31 10:24:00 -
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22m is well past Shotgun range. If you can see a Shotgunner coming from behind well before they can shoot you, I'm not seeing the downside to your use of a range amp. |
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