I'll make this really simple.

Cut armor plate HP by 1/4, and double repair amounts for armor repairers.

This would help combat the rash of brick-tanking and make repair modules a far more viable option.

I should also point out that I'm a shield tanker, so this isn't some kind of plug for armor.

In addition, this would make Ferroscale and Reactive plates more viable alternatives to standard ones.

i started making a post a few days ago
essentially you get a multiplier (between .5 and 1.5) that would make your suit more efficient at what its supposed to do.
so a caldari would get like half effectiveness out of a plate and gallente vice versa

click on the link in my sig

I'm not disagreeing that rep rates are terrible and reactive plates are just this side of useless but wouldn't this end up dropping ttk again?... not really now that I think about it, just encourage real tactical play and make actual logi more useful on the field.

And for Amarr which are supposed to be Brick Tanking what we do ?
(The 30 base more ehp is not an argument.)
I don't think we should nerf Armor plates by their ehp value, but by their speed Penality.
Instead of the actual 2/4/5% penality, what about the old 3/5/10% speed penality ? (Or maybe, 3/7/10, which would be more logic.)
Stack complex ? Be a turret. (3 complex => 30%.)
Stack enhanced ? be a turtle. (3 enhanced => 21%)

It would make Brick tanks really more ehp, BUT easy target since they have REALLY low mobility (Amarr as it supposed to.) => Use Basic plate, at cost of speed (they don't have anyway.)

THEN bring other plates (Ferroscales/Reactives) at the SAME cost (PG/CPU) than the basic plates.
Ferroscales would become the first choice for Caldari/Minmatarr and scouts.
Reactives for Gallente.

Armor reps needs a small buff, instead of actual 2/3/5(6.25 with skills).
3/5/7(8.25 with skills.)

Reactives needs a small buff to the armor rep/s.
instead of actual 1/1/2, should be 1/2/3.

Reactives would be great if they had same PG / cpu cost than basic.

And for Amarr which are supposed to be Brick Tanking what we do ?
(The 30 base more ehp is not an argument.)
I don't think we should nerf Armor plates by their ehp value, but by their speed Penality.
Instead of the actual 2/4/5% penality, what about the old 3/5/10% speed penality ? (Or maybe, 3/7/10, which would be more logic.)
Stack complex ? Be a turret. (3 complex => 30%.)
Stack enhanced ? be a turtle. (3 enhanced => 21%)

It would make Brick tanks really more ehp, BUT easy target since they have REALLY low mobility (Amarr as it supposed to.) => Use Basic plate, at cost of speed (they don't have anyway.)

THEN bring other plates (Ferroscales/Reactives) at the SAME cost (PG/CPU) than the basic plates.
Ferroscales would become the first choice for Caldari/Minmatarr and scouts.
Reactives for Gallente.

Armor reps needs a small buff, instead of actual 2/3/5(6.25 with skills).
3/5/7(8.25 with skills.)

Reactives needs a small buff to the armor rep/s.
instead of actual 1/1/2, should be 1/2/3.

Armor reps needs a small buff, instead of actual 2/3/5(6.25 with skills).
3/5/7(8.25 with skills.)

I'll make this really simple.

Cut armor plate HP by 1/4, and double repair amounts for armor repairers.

This would help combat the rash of brick-tanking and make repair modules a far more viable option.

I should also point out that I'm a shield tanker, so this isn't some kind of plug for armor.

In addition, this would make Ferroscale and Reactive plates more viable alternatives to standard ones.

30 base HP IS a vaild argument with the armor upgrade skill. and you cannot forget the sentinel, who has 75 more armor hp than us gallente.

yup, you're a solid armor tanker.

That's not true at all.

Put a few plates on, put a few reps on, and you get MUCH better results than using reactives.

Gallente have onem ore Low slot than Us ;) (Meaning potentially 150hp more.)
We are talking about fitted suits, not unfitted, NOBODY play with an Empty dropsuit.

Atually Gallente have more ehp (potential) AND regen armor. WTF ?

speed penalty !!! not all gallente are using only armor plates on the low slots and if they do they are really slow. Really slow= die faster.

And for Amarr which are supposed to be Brick Tanking what we do ?
(The 30 base more ehp is not an argument.)
I don't think we should nerf Armor plates by their ehp value, but by their speed Penality.
Instead of the actual 2/4/5% penality, what about the old 3/5/10% speed penality ? (Or maybe, 3/7/10, which would be more logic.)
Stack complex ? Be a turret. (3 complex => 30%.)
Stack enhanced ? be a turtle. (3 enhanced => 21%)

It would make Brick tanks really more ehp, BUT easy target since they have REALLY low mobility (Amarr as it supposed to.) => Use Basic plate, at cost of speed (they don't have anyway.)

THEN bring other plates (Ferroscales/Reactives) at the SAME cost (PG/CPU) than the basic plates.
Ferroscales would become the first choice for Caldari/Minmatarr and scouts.
Reactives for Gallente.

Armor reps needs a small buff, instead of actual 2/3/5(6.25 with skills).
3/5/7(8.25 with skills.)

Reactives needs a small buff to the armor rep/s.
instead of actual 1/1/2, should be 1/2/3.

Kill Amarr tanking style...buff Gallente tanking style......

sounds.....****.

speed penalty !!! not all gallente are using only armor plates on the low slots and if they do they are really slow. Really slow= die faster.

And for Amarr which are supposed to be Brick Tanking what we do ?
(The 30 base more ehp is not an argument.)
I don't think we should nerf Armor plates by their ehp value, but by their speed Penality.
Instead of the actual 2/4/5% penality, what about the old 3/5/10% speed penality ? (Or maybe, 3/7/10, which would be more logic.)
Stack complex ? Be a turret. (3 complex => 30%.)
Stack enhanced ? be a turtle. (3 enhanced => 21%)

It would make Brick tanks really more ehp, BUT easy target since they have REALLY low mobility (Amarr as it supposed to.) => Use Basic plate, at cost of speed (they don't have anyway.)

THEN bring other plates (Ferroscales/Reactives) at the SAME cost (PG/CPU) than the basic plates.
Ferroscales would become the first choice for Caldari/Minmatarr and scouts.
Reactives for Gallente.

Armor reps needs a small buff, instead of actual 2/3/5(6.25 with skills).
3/5/7(8.25 with skills.)

Reactives needs a small buff to the armor rep/s.
instead of actual 1/1/2, should be 1/2/3.

Id like to see the HP values of plates go down as well as the speed bonus. Something like 75/95/115, and then see speed at around 3%/6%/9% respectively. Reactive plates id like to see at around 40/50/60 and a regain rate of around 1/2/3 and have something like 2%/4%/6% speed penalties. These are linear increases in effectiveness vs penalties.