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SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:27:00 - [1] - Quote I understand that CCP is trying to end the 'death logi' role, but I feel that this last nerf dug our graves. That passive armor rep was necessary for providing support for heavies with a rep tool. I might as well use the Militia Galente Medium as I can get 750 total HP for about 10,000ISK. Or better yet the galente scout might as well be the new logi Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 259	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:32:00 - [2] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: I understand that CCP is trying to end the 'death logi' role, but I feel that this last nerf dug our graves. That passive armor rep was necessary for providing support for heavies with a rep tool. I might as well use the Militia Galente Medium as I can get 750 total HP for about 10,000ISK. Or better yet the galente scout might as well be the new logi Idk what everyone is complaining about. My gallente logi sits pretty at over 800 armor and around 100 shields. I can take 3 shotguns to the chest and sill fight back When a scout gankes you just jump around like a mad man and hipfire in his general direction I come out alive 2 out of 3 time at least
Chumlee Chummington Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 49	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:32:00 - [3] - Quote More fragile? No. Less versatile? Yes.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:35:00 - [4] - Quote I miss my passive armor rep. I can't tag along with my rep tool out following a heavy charge anymore. And considering that the heavys are a FOTM im missing out on a lot of WP, SP, and ISK Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 2892	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:37:00 - [5] - Quote So use one of your lows for a complex rep instead of 4-5 plates. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6404	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:37:00 - [6] - Quote They took the passive reps out because people (like me) were abusing it as a 'Logi Assault' hybrid.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 780	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:38:00 - [7] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: So use one of your lows for a complex rep instead of 4-5 plates. THANK YOU Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:44:00 - [8] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: They took the passive reps out because people (like me) were abusing it as a 'Logi Assault' hybrid. Amarr Logi with 2 weapons? Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:46:00 - [9] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: So use one of your lows for a complex rep instead of 4-5 plates. THANK YOU Didn't mean to sound like I was btching too much. Its a little chaotic in game right now with all these wannabe lone wolves out there and its not to friendly to logis Favoring High Latency Is Sht
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2711	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:47:00 - [10] - Quote this thread should expire on its own weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7869	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:56:00 - [11] - Quote Do what your assault brethren had to do for the entire Uprising. Put A ******* Rep On You have no right to complain with how many slots you have. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Type 2910 MK-II The United Peoples' Tactical Force 51	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:23:00 - [12] - Quote If you like it then you should have put a rep on it :p
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 557	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:39:00 - [13] - Quote Logis are perfect as always. I love my scout/logi hybrid. Funny story: You can fit almost any role as a logi because of all them slots, want better modules? Fit less equipment. Want more equipment? Fit more basic modules. Logis are literally the most versatile class by far while assaults are getting shafted massively in every way (and they are supposed to be the most versatile ones). IMO I think logis should lose one of their highs/lows and give it to assaults.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 283	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:45:00 - [14] - Quote I am actually able to fit more hp on my adv CalLogi with the 25% reduction to equipment....well that is cause I actually run equipment.....I don't do PCs so I didn't feel like I needed to proto it out.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 850	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:54:00 - [15] - Quote Chumlee Chummington wrote: More fragile? No. Less versatile? Yes. Define versatility? Logis easily achievesmore hp when they stack tank, which is what everyone complains about with the scout. Logi can whip out more equipment and be more effective with it. The scout can cloak, which serves a solo player but is less meaningful to the squad vs a repping logi. Love people complain about the scout but forget that just a week or so ago we had the logi who had as much hp as a heavy, were quicker, with higher reps, and had access to multiple equipment. Pretty sure we endured that for a solid 6 months.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 540	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:59:00 - [16] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: I understand that CCP is trying to end the 'death logi' role, but I feel that this last nerf dug our graves. That passive armor rep was necessary for providing support for heavies with a rep tool. I might as well use the Militia Galente Medium as I can get 750 total HP for about 10,000ISK. Or better yet the galente scout might as well be the new logi It's a joke ? Logi has been SUPERBUFF they are even more slayer than EVER. Their stats are approx the same than before AND they now have PG/CPU reduction on equipements, meaning what they saved from equipements can be used for even MORE complex stuff and proto wepaons. Let's take na exemple : Before you had..80PG. You were using 20 of them into equipements. (for suits who had 3 slots) 60 for battle stuff, complex and other slaying *****. Now you are using same equipements BUT they takes only 15PG. Making your suit : 15PG into equipements. 65 for even more powerful battle stuff. WHERE DO YOU SEE IT'S A NERF ?
Code Slucid invasion project THE 0 65	Posted - 2014.03.30 12:15:00 - [17] - Quote Being logi atm sux... most people I see posting on this discussion are slayers. Being a logi ain't cheap. I don't blame scouts I do blame cloak equipment sux.. people are saying bonus are good LoL! You have Mini logi who is almost all around logi Which ain't much really... & Caldari & Gallente logi as slayers suit... Forget about Amarr cause the amarr suit is only worth getting for PC -.- plus! as a TRUE Logi! You don't even need a side arm Amarr itself is basically a slayer/sniper.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1114	Posted - 2014.03.30 12:44:00 - [18] - Quote Code Slucid wrote: Being logi atm sux... most people I see posting on this discussion are slayers. Being a logi ain't cheap. I don't blame scouts I do blame cloak equipment sux.. people are saying bonus are good LoL! You have Mini logi who is almost all around logi Which ain't much really... & Caldari & Gallente logi as slayers suit... Forget about Amarr cause the amarr suit is only worth getting for PC -.- plus! as a TRUE Logi! You don't even need a side arm Amarr itself is basically a slayer/sniper. My full proto logi is 190k ISK, my heavy is 220k ISK. Explain that. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6412	Posted - 2014.03.30 12:44:00 - [19] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Patrick57 wrote: They took the passive reps out because people (like me) were abusing it as a 'Logi Assault' hybrid. Amarr Logi with 2 weapons? In other words: you're the type of sh*t that brought this upon us. had you stuck to the support role(LIKE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO) we would all have our passive armor repping still. Lol umadbro? I'll use my suit how I want to. I can also abuse my cloak and shotgun on my Scout.
Quil'n Khan Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:09:00 - [20] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Code Slucid wrote: Being logi atm sux... most people I see posting on this discussion are slayers. Being a logi ain't cheap. I don't blame scouts I do blame cloak equipment sux.. people are saying bonus are good LoL! You have Mini logi who is almost all around logi Which ain't much really... & Caldari & Gallente logi as slayers suit... Forget about Amarr cause the amarr suit is only worth getting for PC -.- plus! as a TRUE Logi! You don't even need a side arm Amarr itself is basically a slayer/sniper. My full proto logi is 190k ISK, my heavy is 220k ISK. Explain that. Simple explaination.....you are running a CalLogi with 3 slots. My Minmatar logi proto'd out is 257k. Of course this is a build depending on the situation. Of course everyone in this tread refer to 2 logi's s and thier 5 slots, and group all of the logi's into their counter arguements as to why logi's are just QQ'ing with this patch.. Well not all logi's are created equal, and stat wise the Minmatar logi sub par. Comparing it to a proto scout with a cloak that can take my 742 total eHP in one quick shots that themselves have over 800 eHP and moves mutch faster than my 4.51 movement speed or 6.63 sprint speed. Going back to the original title of this post...yes my logi is more fragile than a scout.

SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 38	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:14:00 - [21] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Patrick57 wrote: They took the passive reps out because people (like me) were abusing it as a 'Logi Assault' hybrid. Amarr Logi with 2 weapons? In other words: you're the type of sht that brought this upon us. had you stuck to the support role(LIKE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO) we would all have our passive armor repping still. Lol umadbro? I'll use my suit how I want to. I can also abuse my cloak and shotgun on my Scout. haha funny. cloaks were made for scouts, logis were made for support Favoring High Latency Is Sht
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 550	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:17:00 - [22] - Quote olol cal logi dropping nanohives then running away i feel sorry for the min logis who attract them like flies to a lamp B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 859	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:03:00 - [23] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Chumlee Chummington wrote: More fragile? No. Less versatile? Yes. Define versatility? Logis easily achievesmore hp when they stack tank, which is what everyone complains about with the scout. Logi can whip out more equipment and be more effective with it. The scout can cloak, which serves a solo player but is less meaningful to the squad vs a repping logi. Love people complain about the scout but forget that just a week or so ago we had the logi who had as much hp as a heavy, were quicker, with higher reps, and had access to multiple equipment. Pretty sure we endured that for a solid 6 months. This is mostly because the cloak forces players to change their play style a bit. And this community don't like to change their play style
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 397	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:07:00 - [24] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: I miss my passive armor rep. I can't tag along with my rep tool out following a heavy charge anymore. And considering that the heavys are a FOTM im missing out on a lot of WP, SP, and ISK Equip an armor rep then.
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 66	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:32:00 - [25] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: I understand that CCP is trying to end the 'death logi' role, but I feel that this last nerf dug our graves. That passive armor rep was necessary for providing support for heavies with a rep tool. I might as well use the Militia Galente Medium as I can get 750 total HP for about 10,000ISK. Or better yet the galente scout might as well be the new logi Idk what everyone is complaining about. My gallente logi sits pretty at over 800 armor and around 100 shields. I can take 3 shotguns to the chest and sill fight back When a scout gankes you just jump around like a mad man and hipfire in his general direction I come out alive 2 out of 3 time at least No-one should ever.. ever condone bunny hopping, shame on you sir. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.


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