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deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 271	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:38:00 - [1] - Quote a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 839	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:41:00 - [2] - Quote No... even though I love infantry combat... DUST BRASIL S.A (DBSA) *DIRECTOR* We have ringers available (Contact: Sadashi or Necandi Brasil)
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2464	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:41:00 - [3] - Quote I think they should have left the limit at seven, but capped ADS and HAV. There. Better fix. ak.0 4 LYFE CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 172	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:41:00 - [4] - Quote Just make a new game mode with foot soldiers called Onslaught or something that has to do with merciless death. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 ETC- My Initials!!
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 154	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:41:00 - [5] - Quote I'll just hope the other team calls in 2 Lavs too
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 352	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:43:00 - [6] - Quote fun tho when you do manage to call ADS u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 271	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:46:00 - [7] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Just make a new game mode with foot soldiers called Onslaught or something that has to do with merciless death. YES. And make it only one city socket with a small surrounding area for flanking.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2613	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:48:00 - [8] - Quote No its not really a race who calls what in first. Av now is actually usefull and not just for looking fancy which means you can get rid of tanks and dropships if you want to. And the 2 vehicle limit on ambush is fine. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 687	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:50:00 - [9] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 271	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:51:00 - [10] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: No its not really a race who calls what in first. Av now is actually usefull and not just for looking fancy which means you can get rid of tanks and dropships if you want to. And the 2 vehicle limit on ambush is fine. Just cause AV gets points for hitting them does not make it useful even if that means 2 more blueberries decide to get out AV. If it was useful they would not have felt the need to limit vehicles in ambush. If you do not believe its a race spawn in and start calling a vehicle.

Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 372	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:52:00 - [11] - Quote Two vehicle limit is fine. Vehicles skew force capability, they should be limited. Yeah, there is going to be a race to call in vehicles first, wasn't there always? Because, that's why.
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 271	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:53:00 - [12] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? I want less not more. I am just pointing out that the limit only gives blasters the advantage because now no rail can be called in. EDIT: A blaster will be able to sit unchecked on uplinks that no one can get away from. No supply depot = call a rail tank for AV. Spawn with AV? Too bad there is a blaster no one can do anything about spawn killing you.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 700	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:54:00 - [13] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? I do. But only because it penalizes dedicated vehicle drivers. If there are 4 of them in the same team in an ambush match, 2 of them will be made to play as infantry when most of their sp and equipment is dedicated to vehicles. I don't think that's fair. But it is true that ambush was unplayable for most of us. I hope this is only a bandaid patch until they can think on a better solution.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3755	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:56:00 - [14] - Quote I think what CCP did is great. Two vehicles per team is a good workaround for Ambush. I played Ambush for the first time in ages and it was damn good fun. Clones weren't depleting like some left the faucet on. That and plus the TTK increase, now all those noobs can have a chance to have better, much more fun, games. Isn't that good? Or we just wanting to *** about something just to **? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.* Are you OUKH?
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 271	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:58:00 - [15] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I think what CCP did is great. Two vehicles per team is a good workaround for Ambush. I played Ambush for the first time in ages and it was damn good fun. Clones weren't depleting like some left the faucet on. That and plus the TTK increase, now all those noobs can have a chance to have better, much more fun, games. Isn't that good? Or we just wanting to *** about something just to ***? You used the keyword. It is a WORKAROUND. When is the last time we saw an actual fix in this game? The two vehicle limit is a lazy workaround that allows one side to get the obvious advantage if they play it right.
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 385	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:59:00 - [16] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? so what you're saying is that against retards, vehicles will win easily what a suprise
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 273	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:03:00 - [17] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? so what you're saying is that against retards, vehicles will win easily what a suprise While you are totally correct, I would also like to add to my point that anyone with half a brain can go auto win mode and that is what I am not happy with.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 964	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:03:00 - [18] - Quote OP is right. Vehicles should be removed from Ambush and then balance vehicles vs AV for Skirm/Dom. Trying to make it work in all game modes obviously isn't working. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
Marc Rime 342	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:07:00 - [19] - Quote Yeah, it's a poor solution... but OTOH it's once more fun to play ambush.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1421	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:09:00 - [20] - Quote Every time I pop an enemy LAV, I wonder if the WPs were worth freeing up a vehicle slot for the enemy to call in a rail tank... "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 385	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:15:00 - [21] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Alpha 443-6732 wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? so what you're saying is that against retards, vehicles will win easily what a suprise While you are totally correct, I would also like to add to my point that anyone with half a brain can go auto win mode and that is what I am not happy with. true, but after playing on my heavy alt I can easily solo tanks (with their hardeners on) by hitting them in their soft spot when they come close enough I usually sit at the sidelines until they get distracted, then I nuke them. IMO I think the balance is fine now, this is coming from someone who was using the advanced forge with lvl 4 usage and no proficiency and from someone who has maxed out shield tanking and missiles
danie sous DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:24:00 - [22] - Quote It would be awsome if they could make it so that team a could only call in the second after team b called in their first. There would be a strategy involved because team b could then call in 2 rail tanks to counter team a 1st tank. Or if there was a team penalty for calling in vehicles. Some players easily farm isk in so many ways.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3756	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:00:00 - [23] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I think what CCP did is great. Two vehicles per team is a good workaround for Ambush. I played Ambush for the first time in ages and it was damn good fun. Clones weren't depleting like some left the faucet on. That and plus the TTK increase, now all those noobs can have a chance to have better, much more fun, games. Isn't that good? Or we just wanting to *** about something just to **? You used the keyword. It is a WORKAROUND. When is the last time we saw an actual fix in this game? The two vehicle limit is a lazy workaround that allows one side to get the obvious advantage if they play it right. So its like I thought, just bitching to be bitching. Would you prefer they remove the hot fix since it doesn't quite meet your perfect standard and go back to how it was before? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.* Are you OUKH?
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 1038	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:09:00 - [24] - Quote Its stupid that they basically removed the way people want to play. I like vehicles. Now that the quota is so bleeped low I can't use the role I love the most. I'm not talking about just tanks. DSs and LAVs suffered for it too. CCP Saberwing "Vehicles have taken a step in the right direction"
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:14:00 - [25] - Quote Why r u crying??? The nerf hammer felt hard on the vehicles. I saw today 1 guy with swarms popping 2 gunlogis and one madrugar in a ambush game (with swarms). Hardener are weaker its ambush no redline to hide take your AV gear get over it. What do you paper tanks??? yes with swarms!!!!
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 274	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:22:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I think what CCP did is great. Two vehicles per team is a good workaround for Ambush. I played Ambush for the first time in ages and it was damn good fun. Clones weren't depleting like some left the faucet on. That and plus the TTK increase, now all those noobs can have a chance to have better, much more fun, games. Isn't that good? Or we just wanting to *** about something just to *? You used the keyword. It is a WORKAROUND. When is the last time we saw an actual fix in this game? The two vehicle limit is a lazy workaround that allows one side to get the obvious advantage if they play it right. So its like I thought, just bitching to be bitching. Would you prefer they remove the hot fix since it doesn't quite meet your perfect standard and go back to how it was before? Honestly I would rather go back to the old limit than the 2 vehicle limit, I have seen plenty of ambushes cleared out by a guy that called in a nice rail and got rid of the blasters camping the spawn that smart deploy continually puts you on. The 2 vehicle limit gives tankers an even more unfair advantage than before. Its very possible I am just ing to *** but you will see it when this is used against you and if you do remember this thread you will get it, otherwise you will just be crying about the blaster camping your spawn. EDIT AFTER READING OTHER RESPONSES To Alpha Yes, you can do that easily with the additional help or maybe on your own with the hardener reduction (not my area I can not effectively say) the problem is now blasters can, if done right unchecked camp every clone on the other side. Maybe that comes back more to the problems with smart deploy.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3759	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:08:00 - [27] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Honestly I would rather go back to the old limit than the 2 vehicle limit, I have seen plenty of ambushes cleared out by a guy that called in a nice rail and got rid of the blasters camping the spawn that smart deploy continually puts you on. The 2 vehicle limit gives tankers an even more unfair advantage than before. Its very possible I am just **ing to *** but you will see it when this is used against you and if you do remember this thread you will get it, otherwise you will just be crying about the blaster camping your spawn. That's cool. I'm happy that they did something about it. It's been long overdue they lessened the tank numbers on the battlefield. I've been playing this game for a while now, I know a blaster camping a spawn point won't have me crying and seeing things your way. I've experienced that in Dom and Skirm. I don't cry about much anyway. I lick my wounds and get back in the fight. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12715	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:09:00 - [28] - Quote They should have just went all the way and removed them. Now it's MUCH easier to farm with your couple of tanks or ADS because there's just that much less that can easily kill you. My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1422	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:53:00 - [29] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: They should have just went all the way and removed them. Now it's MUCH easier to farm with your couple of tanks or ADS because there's just that much less that can easily kill you. That's definitely true. Also because the Bolas counts as a vehicle, you can't call in two vehicles simultaneously. This means that you can easily take care of enemy vehicles if you already have two tanks on your team, one at a time. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 327	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:59:00 - [30] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: deezy dabest wrote: a horrible idea and a cheap work around? Now it will be a race to call in vehicles and as soon as the enemy team has two blasters and your blues have 2 lavs the only excuse for AV has been totally blocked. They should just make it zero like plenty of people wanted and let us kill each other on foot. What 1 tank does to a team with no av is bad enough. What 2 tanks do is rediculous. 4 tanks on a team is not fun. Vehicles ruin games. Why cant you so called "pilots" See 1 tank againt a team with no av and open map is win button? The real question is, why is their no AV on the team. We fix that problem, we fix the tank problem. Also, in ambush, destroy every vehicle but LAVs.... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...



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