They were a worthless turret before, they'll be worse now that rail guns have the same optimal range as them.

I don't even have the luxury of knowing I can outflank rail snipers, because they're operating in the same field as me.

I'll still need a damage mod to kill a hardened tank (even with XTs), so the hardener nerf doesn't really help me. (This is, incidentally, why I empathise with the people complaining about shotgun proficiency changes)

I can't fit a damage mod now, because then rails will insta gib me. I don't even have the defense of mobility.



No, these changes have, as usual, screwed over far more things than they thought they would.

I think you misunderstand.

Missiles aren't particularly 'anti-armour', in my experience, despite what their damage profile might tell you. Tactical play is always the same.

Previously I had the benefit of rails trying to exploit their enormous range, and I was therefore able to sneak up on them while they were focused 400m away.

Now? A rail is like a giant slug shotgun.

Which hits harder with the same range cap than my giant buckshot shotgun.

Thereby missile tank's roles have been cut even further.

You shout READ before you rage, moron.

I said 'rails NOT outranging my missiles negates my purpose'.

Missile spam BS?

Go try them, have fun, GL, come back when you're sick of using a turret that barely kills armour tanks, let alone a hardened Gunnlogi (protip: missiles are pretty much incapable of killing a hardened tank of any kind).

And I swear to God infantry just giggle when I fire a volley at them. And ever single one misses.

I often need to fire two bursts at infantry to score a kill, which represents 25s of time and a full sixth of my ammunition capacity, with very low chances of restocking thanks to CCP's brilliant placement of supply depots.


Railguns just got buffed, too, you twat.

EDITED for spelling.

oh yeah, here's a test for you as well

how do you shoot at infantry with the missile turret? Are you aware of how the aiming mechanics work?

I know how they do and I can score about 4 kills per volley if I aim decently, my record is around 7

you are just talking for the sake of talking, with no substance or reasoning to back up what you say

assault suits are flexible
logis specialize in equipment

missiles aren't good at anything, when compared to the other turrets, they are supposed to be the mid field between AI and AV but their AV aspect is useless against shields and their AI aspect takes too much skill for too little reward

it would be acceptable if large missiles actually had splash or had no falloff or better damage to bring them in line to where they should be, but as it is now in every situation where you have success with a missile tank, it is much more simple and effective to just use either a blaster or a railgun to do the job; they are literally easymode as far as I'm concerned

also, I have never been hit once by anyone using large missiles when I play infantry, just to show how spoiled other tankers have been all this time

but on a better note, if you really want to learn the ins and outs of a missile turret then I'll tell you the two most important mechanics:

to fire accurately, you must wait about 1 second for the turret to automatically reposition itself so that the side that fires will shoot a missile straight at the surface you are aiming at. Yes, missiles will have 100% accuracy when you do this. You can test this mechanic by comparing how much the turret moves when aiming at a distant target, then aiming at an extremely close target like a giant crate. Which brings me to the next point...

You lose accuracy based on how far away the surface that the reticule is upon in comparison to your target, so try to aim at the ground or nearby walls when trying to aim at a small target

if you pay attention to your turret, it is alive and constantly moving to adjust its aim (they aren't just animations, they're calculations), it wont be as accurate as a blaster against infantry, but it can be used effectively if you master these mechanics