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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:05:00 -
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I was thinking Mini Logi b4 the update and I'm a mini Logi after the update and will forever be a Mini Logi. Proto rep tool, STD nanohives and needles on my pub ADV suit. I rep great and can revive and have crap nanos for those rainy days. The other logi suits do a fine job dropping uplinks and hives down for every one.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:14:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:I already put them in Gallente (got it back to 5) I have so much ISK tied up in fittings it just seemed like a waste. And I got Minmatar Logi to 4. Yeah you need 4 suits to do the job 1 use to. It's frustrating that an entire playstyle has been eliminated from the game.
OR You have 15 other teammates to those other jobs GREAT. Not sure what there is to complain about, Scouts have 2 equip slots, assault/commando has one........HOW MUCH EQUIP DO YOU NEED ON THE FIELD BRO! Not seeing how an entire play style has been eliminated......oh Ic bc you can't LOGI BOMB the BEST EQUIPMENT without speccing into a another races suit. Called variety, might as well start QQ about the heavy/commando bonuses being different.
P.S. Quit acting like Proto equip is utter garbage, you sound like a spoiled brat.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:17:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Virtual Riot - 100 meters is not an effective logi for support. Who is repping? Reviving? There is more to being a logi than just slaying others. We are a support role. Now to be an effective support role requires at least 4 different fittings for the suits.
MAYBE if you WAS the ONLY LOGI in the battle..........
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:23:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:I have a similar fitting but at 250k ISK it's not worth using in terms of the best of the Gallente fitting. I have an adv fitting for the Minmatar that I am using now as well. I was never much for uplinks (don't think I even have the skill trained) so probably won't do Amarr. May go into Caldari because I did use Hives as needed.
But that's my point. The playstyle I once had is now gone. I need 4 suits to do what I use to do. I was tempted to quit and walk away from Dust with what they did to the role.
You know what GOOD RIDDENS gtfuh already! No suit should be the best at everything assclown. The change to the logi is for the best. You have proved in this thread you are nothing more than a spoiled kid. Acting like they took away all your equipment slots but 1! There is this idea about dust that it is about "TEAMWORK" believe it or not.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:26:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Fraceska wrote:I have a similar fitting but at 250k ISK it's not worth using in terms of the best of the Gallente fitting. I have an adv fitting for the Minmatar that I am using now as well. I was never much for uplinks (don't think I even have the skill trained) so probably won't do Amarr. May go into Caldari because I did use Hives as needed.
But that's my point. The playstyle I once had is now gone. I need 4 suits to do what I use to do. I was tempted to quit and walk away from Dust with what they did to the role. If anything it adds real variety to the game whats the point of skilling into something when everyone can do anything (1.7) Now when a logi joins the squad its "oh you're an Amarr logi? Cool I wonder how faster uplinks will work out". Not "eh thats cool, I can do what you do on my logi suit too".
At least someone else gets it.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:40:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:BrownEye1129 wrote:Fraceska wrote:I have a similar fitting but at 250k ISK it's not worth using in terms of the best of the Gallente fitting. I have an adv fitting for the Minmatar that I am using now as well. I was never much for uplinks (don't think I even have the skill trained) so probably won't do Amarr. May go into Caldari because I did use Hives as needed.
But that's my point. The playstyle I once had is now gone. I need 4 suits to do what I use to do. I was tempted to quit and walk away from Dust with what they did to the role. You know what GOOD RIDDENS gtfuh already! No suit should be the best at everything assclown. The change to the logi is for the best. You have proved in this thread you are nothing more than a spoiled kid. Acting like they took away all your equipment slots but 1! There is this idea about dust that it is about "TEAMWORK" believe it or not. Do you even read what I type? It is about the efficiency in which I support my team. My ability to keep them all alive and armed. The hives, the repper and the other tools now require 4 suits and (4x as much SP) as the other roles. Sure a combat role could skill into other suits but for what reason if they like the weapon it is with? You could use a cloak on other suits beyond scout if you want. But the logistics role requires skill as to what to use and when to use it. 4 suits now to fulfill our original role to get the most out of the equipment we skilled into. Everything we do is now reduced unless we are using pro gear to make up for the difference in efficiency which makes running a true logistics suit all the more risky as we are targeted first. Black and yellow is like the red/white of the medical corps. Generally shot first.
Sadly yes I read what you write. Wishing I would just skip past it though bc you are not understanding.
1. You are not the only logi on the damn map. 2. Other suits Assualt/Scout/Commando can help with equip drops if really need be 3. Since when has having the best equipment to spam ever been a "True Logi" 4. B4 the change 1 Logi Suit dropping the BEST equipment was OP period.
Please explain to me how there was really any difference between the logis pre 1.8. Get off your throne KING LOGI. We never should have been able to use another races tech better than said race. AGAIN just to get this point across we logis should have never been able to run the battle like we did! Equipment still needs a limit per clone so you can't grab a suit loaded with hives and drop them in one spot.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:45:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:@General - Proto gear to replace the efficiency we lost. And those equipment pieces are not cheap in ISK. Black and Yellow is shot first. So we need to run with our best even in public matches to replace what was lost.
If you feel you "NEED" to run all proto equipment in a pub bc you have never heard of "Teamwork" well that is your own problem.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:48:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:So you cannot hide behide a crate repping someone from 12 m away unless you are a min logi.
So you cannot resupply and repair a squad with proto hives unless you are a caldari.
Those are the only two major changes to the logi efficiency calculations. The uplinks and scanner changes affected everyone, but only logis got skills to counter those changes.
So pick which one is most important to you and spec that one. Every other suit in the game has to make choices about what the want out of their role, and logis get that choice as well.
He honestly can't man! He wants to be the best of the best with everything. CCP just needs to give this guy a "GOD SUIT" already so he can stfu with his, "My logi isn't the best with all the equipment anymore waaa waaa waaa" BS"
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:20:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:BrownEye1129 wrote:Sadly yes I read what you write. Wishing I would just skip past it though bc you are not understanding.
1. You are not the only logi on the damn map. 2. Other suits Assualt/Scout/Commando can help with equip drops if really need be 3. Since when has having the best equipment to spam ever been a "True Logi" 4. B4 the change 1 Logi Suit dropping the BEST equipment was OP period.
Please explain to me how there was really any difference between the logis pre 1.8. Get off your throne KING LOGI. We never should have been able to use another races tech better than said race. AGAIN just to get this point across we logis should have never been able to run the battle like we did! Equipment still needs a limit per clone so you can't grab a suit loaded with hives and drop them in one spot. 1. Maybe not, but the question now is when you're in a public match do you coordinate with all other logi suits to maximize benefits? One of each. Do you group all logi's into one squad? Or do you just stay in your squad chat and play with the other 5 members without worrying what the others are doing? 2. That is not really the point. Sure they can use equipment as well but it is not a factor of their role in many cases. The concept of logistics is to support those around you. 3. It is not about the best spam. It is about using each of your tools in an intelligent manner. Not dropping the links around the CRU or in high places. But in support of your squad. The ammo to be used strategically. In a heated fight unless I'm in a caldari suit the chances are my nanos will not be able to resupply them all fast enough. It comes down to efficiency of equipment. To support others. 4. And all 4 best equipment made each death cost 250k ISK for all that equipment. One bad match you could lose over a million ISK. With black and yellow being shot first there is a trade off. No other suit has to run as much pro gear as we do.
I can't do this anymore. I will try one more time to get this through your thick head!
1. No bc it is "A PUB"! A PC or FW Q Sync sure. Having one suit be the best with ALL the equipment hurt PC more than PUBs.
2. Ok true but if you relied on you PUB squad a little more you wouldn't have to run all Proto equipment in a damn PUB.
3. If someone runs dry on ammo in the middle of a fire fight it is bc YOU didn't give them ammo until the last second. Horrible strategy.
4. No reason to run PROTO EQUIPMENT IN PUBS!!! Only proto piece of gear I run is a Rep Tool. Amazingly my squads have more than enough ammo. Bc you know what I do in between waves......run my happy ass to the nearest supply depo to restock. Honestly how many pubs have you been where you and your squad sit on a point and have to fight off a non stop stream of enemies? It is a damn PUB usually uncoordinated, hesitate, cowardly, spread out reds. You kill a few and they think twice. Not to mention IDK it's not 16vs6!!!
No other suit has to run the amount of gear we do and they don't. There is also no reason for you to be QQ like they nerfed equipment to uselessness unless it's proto!
They made logis better not only for PUBs but more so in PC. Where teamwork and coordination really do matter. Up give logis a bad name complaining about this change. OUR SUITS ARE STILL USABLE! What happened when they made changes to the heavy, broke it and now they are finally back where they need to be. CCP finally gets something right, with Logis and you want to complain about it, PLEASE!
I guess you really won't like me when I say an 8 maybe, streching it maybe 10 equipment limit is needed per clone. Meaning 1 player can only drop a combined 10 nano/uplinks at one time.
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BrownEye1129
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:27:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:The logistics role is the greatest of the SP sinks. To be able to use each piece of equipment will require to skill into all 4 racial suits. I'm half way there. To take a logistics suit from 0 to 5 requires close to 2 mil SP. To get medium armor from 0 to 3 requires about 400k SP. The equipment is a one time investment as each suit can use them all, yet if I want to rep as good as I can in my gal suit I need to start using pro gear or be less efficient. Then there is the ISK considerations for each skill book and each fitting for those roles.
What other suit requires such investment to get the most out of the equipment they are required to use?
Man are you dumb or something! YOU DO NOT NEED AN AMARR SUIT TO RUN UPLINKS
OR MINMATAR TO RUN REP
OR GALLENTE TO RUN SCANS
OR CALADARI TO RUN HIVES!
This is only is your fucken head that you need to only drop the best Equip.
Let me ask you this Gallente scan or Minmatar Reps bc you can be the best at both simultaneously !!!
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