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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4252	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:13:00 - [1] - Quote What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1105	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:15:00 - [2] - Quote I like the Ion Pistol. *Assassination is my thing.*
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 586	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:15:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. Skill bonus is not applying to the weapon apparently. So the kick will most likely correct itself after a hotfix DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5252	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:16:00 - [4] - Quote Kick makes it balanced. Its perfect in my opinion, good to actually see some real kick on a weapon. fuckign casuls
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4252	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:16:00 - [5] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. Skill bonus is not applying to the weapon apparently. So the kick will most likely correct itself after a hotfix OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that explains things. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Toby Flenderson research lab 417	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:18:00 - [6] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I like the Ion Pistol. Yeah the forums said it sucked but I tried it and loved it. Probably will be the first safe SP investment for me since the refund
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2286	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:19:00 - [7] - Quote I can't stand the thing, to much kick, too long a charge time, not accurate enough for my liking. Still it hits like a truck when you get shots on and the sound is beastly! But I much prefer my bolt pistol, hits like a friggin space station. Its justma shame my minmatar bonus only applies to Minmatar weapons, an extra 2-3 shots would make that weapon. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 589	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:20:00 - [8] - Quote Here is the quote and link to the information: CCP Logibro wrote: snip A large number of skills do not appear to be applying on spawn, including dropsuit skills, weapon skills and core skills. Extent is unconfirmed and still under investigation snip As always, please only post new issues encountered in Uprising 1.8 DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:21:00 - [9] - Quote Apparently a lot of the bonuses aren't being applied. Forge gun Amarr assault Magsec That's all I'm aware of. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 371	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:24:00 - [10] - Quote I'm very fond of it, as you say the kick does seem a bit extreme at times but it leads me to fire in bursts of 3 to 5 shots when engaging targets at range. I mostly run an AV FG heavy so the Magsec fits nicely as a PDW allowing me to run with the squad more effectively and provide cover fire better than previous builds. However it is still a secondary weapon with below average range, damage and a long spool up time compared to primary weapons so it seems pretty balanced to me. Closed Beta AV veteran I drink because I play Dust

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 1029	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:27:00 - [11] - Quote I like it, like the kick. I run mag with M-512-A smg. Smg to start and mag to finish. Or mag/ion bolt/mag. I am the shadow, and the ghost in your eyes, I am the scout, that hunts in the night -Shadow Scout Sits on Perch
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 828	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:32:00 - [12] - Quote It is Caldari tech and everything Caldari tech has to be awesome! Oh, I use a Madrugar tank. Why do you ask?... Going serious, I actually like Rail Rifle / Magsec on my Assault. The biggest thing I can say about them is that they "feel good to shoot." It feels like it is a real weapon with the sound and visuals on it firing. The Plasma Rifle feels more like a toy to me rather than an actual weapon, same with the SMG. Nothing against those weapons, just that Rail and Magsec actually feel awesome. The kick is pretty extreme but I only have a single point in the skill so I can't really judge it. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 709	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:57:00 - [13] - Quote When dual post-1.8 ScPs weren't cutting it in my clunky Commando suit, I switched the assault/burst ScP out for a STD aurum magsec with some of the leftover AUR I had. I like it. Good range, some solid damage (except against shields, it seems like, but I don't know if it's just ***-poor damage, hit detection, or operator error), and even has a zoom for ADS (for whatever reason). All Amarr Dropsuits to lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.*
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1152	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:00:00 - [14] - Quote I haven't used it extensively because Infamous: second Son is so much better than Dust, however, the couple matches I used it I like it a lot. As someone who is used to the rail rifle I don't find the Magsec kick to be too bad or its charge up time to be long at all. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2384	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:16:00 - [15] - Quote I'm running magsec/bolt pistol on my caldari scout, i love it. If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good. Proud member of RND
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 147	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:22:00 - [16] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Kick makes it balanced. Its perfect in my opinion, good to actually see some real kick on a weapon. Agree 100%. To me it just feels brutal and is great fun. Yes it has range but with that kick, even at level 5, it will take a skilled shooter to fully utilise it. In the interest of full disclosure, I have only played an hour or so with it on patch day. Stupid responsibilities...
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1046	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:22:00 - [17] - Quote I love it its my baby. I really enjoy the kick! It makes it feel like its got some power behind it and makes it challenging to ads and hit far away targets, I don't think that should change. The spool up is really cool, love the Spinny bit! The reload is also awesome I don't know why I have to **** it on the right side though. The only issue I'm having is sometimes when I switch to it and hold the trigger nothing happens, no spool, nothing. It takes like two or three tries to get it to spool and start firing. I've died quite a bit in my cal scout because of that. Otherwise, she is my baby and I love her, think I'll call her Maggie
toasterwaffles Nyain Chan 35	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:28:00 - [18] - Quote Kaaliakoita magseg- mini ishukone assault RR Check out our site
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 709	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:35:00 - [19] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: The only issue I'm having is sometimes when I switch to it and hold the trigger nothing happens, no spool, nothing. It takes like two or three tries to get it to spool and start firing. I've died quite a bit in my cal scout because of that. That happened to me once. Made my 1000ehp commando get shredded by another magsec scout in CQB and made me look like complete ***, like I didn't even know how to pull the trigger. Other than that, a good weapon. All Amarr Dropsuits to lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.*
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2253	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:43:00 - [20] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. It's not how I expected it to be For the Federation!

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1153	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:44:00 - [21] - Quote Oh it also needs the red dot or reflex (whichever you call it) sight it shows on the silenced version we don't have yet Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2050	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:45:00 - [22] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I like the Ion Pistol. This. Despite everything I've said about it, it has potential and is pretty fun to use. I just need to get sharpshooter 5 lol
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 298	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:12:00 - [23] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: I'm running magsec/bolt pistol on my caldari scout, i love it. I'm planning on doing this when I get home :) We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 49	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:24:00 - [24] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. I use it on my Amarr scout light assault fit with the viziam scp and like you, I'm guessing you are stuck on just the std magsec lol. My e war ninja fit is an scp with knives, both with cloak and uplink. I put two enh sidearm damage mods on the light assault fit. PS guard/farm, ssshhhhhh. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 960	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:33:00 - [25] - Quote As a ARR user, the Magsec came naturally, and I'm encouraged to read they are going to fix the sharpshooter skill to reduce kick. Now if I could only find a way to reduce the kick on it's bigger brother, the Ishukone Assault RR, we'd really be getting somewhere! But really, over time, you get used to it and can compensate -- but I sure would love a skill to reduce it on the RR.
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 103	Posted - 2014.03.28 22:04:00 - [26] - Quote I'm glad it's not OP as it looked before it came out. The kick and the ADS make this a sidearm, which is nice. In CQC is very powerful. I'm not sure if the silencer is there and it just doesn't show in the first person view or it's supposed to come in a future variant.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2053	Posted - 2014.03.28 22:08:00 - [27] - Quote JP Acuna wrote: I'm glad it's not OP as it looked before it came out. The kick and the ADS make this a sidearm, which is nice. In CQC is very powerful. I'm not sure if the silencer is there and it just doesn't show in the first person view or it's supposed to come in a future variant. You mean like the sight it's supposed to have?
Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6277	Posted - 2014.03.28 22:14:00 - [28] - Quote The MagSec just isn't good for pulling out to finish someone off. The spool-up time makes it completely not viable.
Toby Flenderson research lab 421	Posted - 2014.03.28 22:30:00 - [29] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: I like the Ion Pistol. This. Despite everything I've said about it, it has potential and is pretty fun to use. I just need to get sharpshooter 5 lol Out of curiosity, how often do you guys use the charge shot? I've one shotted a couple caldari medium frames that I can only imagine were MLT/BPO. It's risky but so satisfying so I keep trying to get the charge OHK haha.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2056	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:21:00 - [30] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Joel II X wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: I like the Ion Pistol. This. Despite everything I've said about it, it has potential and is pretty fun to use. I just need to get sharpshooter 5 lol Out of curiosity, how often do you guys use the charge shot? I've one shotted a couple caldari medium frames that I can only imagine were MLT/BPO. It's risky but so satisfying so I keep trying to get the charge OHK haha. Never. I would try to use it on a non-assault scout, but if I miss, I'm dead.

Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4269	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:58:00 - [31] - Quote I've noticed with the MagSec, if you look at other players wielding it, it appears to have the silencer and red dot sight, but in first person when you're wielding it, it appears with iron sights and no silencer. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1140	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:07:00 - [32] - Quote I run a rail rifle/magsec on my scout. It is a beautiful combination. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1953	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:14:00 - [33] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What do you think of it? I for one love it, but find it's kick to be downright insane. I tried to use it as my main weapon on my Amarr Scout, but the spool up time gets me killed from time to time, or the kick also causes my shots to miss and gets me killed. I love it Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 478	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:14:00 - [34] - Quote It feels like a regular SMG with more range and harder hitting bullets. Charge up time is negligible unless your using it in close quarters as a finisher weapon. Honestly have to say this was the most disappointing new weapon in 1.8 for me. It feels so similar to the SMG that it's boring. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 403	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:17:00 - [35] - Quote I'm not really enjoying it, I find it a bit hard to aim and apply damage with. I have trouble using iron sights and wish it had an optic like the regular smg does.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3721	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:39:00 - [36] - Quote Maybe it's just the TTK increase, but I feel like I'm shooting endlessly to get each kill. Dual magsecs are very satisfying though. No.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 42	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:45:00 - [37] - Quote I've used it I don't like it but here's my opinion Hate the charge time keeps getting me killed when I tried it If you do actually shot it people become Swiss cheese The recoil is that bad (ever heard of aiming while firing you idiots that complain? Seriously just nudge you joystick down while firing) No proto in public matches!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1059	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:00:00 - [38] - Quote It complements my name via knives rather pleasantly. Once the kick bug is fixed, it'll be my favorite sidearm. Only downside is the kick limits its usefulness at its optimal range, but again, that will be fixed in a patch. As far as charge time, your scout should have the advantage if you properly utilize flanking and the cloak. If you get in a firefight your first priority should be escape, not fighting back. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 298	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:01:00 - [39] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151042&find=unread Hopefully this gets sorted out thennnn magsec will really own We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
PHI Black New Eden Retirement 10	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:01:00 - [40] - Quote it's neat. recoil is annoying, but once skill application is fixed it'll probably be more manageable.

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3772	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:27:00 - [41] - Quote she's a hot jalepeno pepper in my hands... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 269	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:22:00 - [42] - Quote I love that gun its beast .....I use it on my CalScout Mag/Knives Combo FTW


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