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Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1098	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:55:00 - [1] - Quote Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. *Assassination is my thing.*
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5249	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:57:00 - [2] - Quote Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile fuckign casuls
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:57:00 - [3] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Boot Booter Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 334	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:58:00 - [4] - Quote Who cares. I love seeing a cloaked assault, they are so easy to kill.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1098	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:58:00 - [5] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile Hit box are broken and assault scouts are too busy tanking to place any scan related modules. *Assassination is my thing.*
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1901	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile This. Just because Assaults can get slightly more health doesn't mean anything when they have terrible CPU/PG compared to Scouts while also being worse than Scouts in litterally everything else than health. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7835	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:59:00 - [7] - Quote Assaults are just SLIGHTLY more tanky. It's definitely not worth passing up all the bonuses scouts get. Assaults are crap. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 181	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:29:00 - [8] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile It's BS..... They're just going to need to increase the eHP of assaults then or at least bonuses to incentive them back to assault. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:53:00 - [9] - Quote People ! you are forgetting scouts are also meant for attacking. But the scout is not very effective when spotted by an enemy. So why on earth would assaults complain about scouts? You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2100	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:54:00 - [10] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. scouts were useful before, you just want ez mode. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!

Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2100	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:56:00 - [11] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile This. Just because Assaults can get slightly more health doesn't mean anything when they have terrible CPU/PG compared to Scouts while also being worse than Scouts in litterally everything else than health. Why assualt suits should have keep the rate of fire bonus. Except everyone QQ'd about it, so I had to skill out of assaults. Scouts are next. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 148	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:56:00 - [12] - Quote I personally don't do it, but I have been seeing Gal scouts running around with 500+ armor, and they are still faster than assualts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10172	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 - [13] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile + 2nd equipment slot Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1671	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:02:00 - [14] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And yet I am having the time of my life between my running only the one suit I love and being able to adapt it just fine, doing so since just before Uprising hit, using the scout for what it is supposed to be instead of a ninja all the time, the Gal scout having a lot of lows that fit armor and not being a tryhard that grabs the "best" suit rather than the suit you can enjoy. Come on, the real problem ppl are having now is with the cloak. Oh well, that is CCPs decision. Go with it or quit the game. Obviously, the cloak is meant to take the place of merely running a bunch of damps et al then ending up squishy the minute someone sneezes in your direction. Sout does not mean ninja assassin. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1671	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:05:00 - [15] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. scouts were useful before, you just want ez mode. Oh, like the vanilla tryhard assaults had with damage bonuses? The same bonuses these same easy mode vanilla assault types want now? Nothing is stopping anyone from going scout. Also, the emphasis has been placed on heavies and logis otherwise. Scouts mean something now against those. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2259	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:06:00 - [16] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. sorry but i'll use my suit slots how ever the hell i want to use them.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 270	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:10:00 - [17] - Quote There is nothing an assault can do that a scout cant do better
jerrmy12 kahoalii 753	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:13:00 - [18] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. scouts were useful before, you just want ez mode. Get good son. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1101	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:45:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile + 2nd equipment slot Cloak. *Assassination is my thing.*
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10172	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:50:00 - [20] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile + 2nd equipment slot Cloak. Not everyone uses it for cloak, but the cloak is yet another advantage. Most assaults may be able to get more HP then their racial scout counterpart of the same tier, but overall the scouts advantages far outweigh the assaults. Assaults, and medium frames in general need to be improved through slot layouts, here is my plan to do so. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

CLONE117 True Pros Forever 737	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:55:00 - [21] - Quote i can deal with some cloaked scouts if i manage to see them with my relatively old box tv... halo reaches active camo is easier for me to spot. on the side note though id prefer if scouts were better spotted on the radar/minimap whilst moving. gives the player an actual chance to react to that situation. other than that i guess im fine dealing with them via my hmg. but against other heavies with hmgs... not so much now... id rather see more light weapon heavies than anything else now...(easier to kill in cqc).
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3209	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:57:00 - [22] - Quote Let people play the game the way they want and try out different tactics... Everybody is seeming to love to tell others how to play, this should be a game where people are able to try out new and different things to win not a game of rock paper scissors where you will always know what is coming and the outcome. Selling Templar BPO Last BPO's(Click link) Queen improves your Dust Gameplay by 100%
Toby Flenderson research lab 417	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:01:00 - [23] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. scouts were useful before, you just want ez mode. Agreed. Haven't skilled into anything yet so that I can see how it all plays out but if scouts are too easy I might try something more challenging. That's the reason I went into scouts in the first place, they seemed useful and rewarding. If they're the new assaults then I might try one of the assaults or logis and try and make something useful out of it
RED-EYE -JEDI RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 156	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:02:00 - [24] - Quote Really people crying about scouts already ? I GOT KILLED BY A SCOUT THERE FOR ITS OP this is nonsense I like seeing variation on the battle field not just Rail rifle and Gallente. let heavies be, I vote for no HP nerf let scouts be, they can be used now. Assaults need a slight tweek and logis need smaller tweek Forge Gun = Mechanised Hadouken
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 623	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:03:00 - [25] - Quote They were slayer logis before being tanky scouts,it's like they love wearing contradictions. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. GalHeav E-vo
jerrmy12 kahoalii 755	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:19:00 - [26] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. And then ccp nerfs scouts based on the qq because scouts are usful for once. scouts were useful before, you just want ez mode. Agreed. Haven't skilled into anything yet so that I can see how it all plays out but if scouts are too easy I might try something more challenging. That's the reason I went into scouts in the first place, they seemed useful and rewarding. If they're the new assaults then I might try one of the assaults or logis and try and make something useful out of it Gallente is the easy mode scout, everyone brick tanks it. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 199	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:24:00 - [27] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile I like to play as a light assault and engage in a lot of flanking to place opposing teams in uncomfortable positions. To this end, I run a gal scout, brick tanked with a profile dampener because it is currently the best option for the play style I like. I'd happily run a min assault if it had any where near the same kind of functionality, but it doesn't currently. Many who play games like Dust are adept at using the tools available to them to craft the game play experience they want. Can you really fault someone for wanting to play a game in a way that is enjoyable to them? Go ahead and run something sub-optimal and/or obscure. If you're still effective with it, so much the better. However, don't try to dictate what I do with my game time because of the rigid conventions you hold with regard to what is right or proper. Cheers, Aramis
Avallo Kantor Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 359	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:34:00 - [28] - Quote I believe they said they are going to adjust slot layouts to medium dropsuits in the next patch because they could not get it into this one. The problems you are talking about are due to this, and once the suits slot layout / attributes are balanced for medium suits you'll likely see the Assault suits to be more in line with the other suits.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1151	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:39:00 - [29] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Every assault is going assault scout just for what? cloak? you can tank more on an assault and a cloak isn't even useful in offensive situations. Those low slots are meant for tactical use like scanning or kinetics not armor plates, your speed penalty is higher too and thats a good reason why it shouldn't get nerfed so these stupid assault scouts who tank armor can realize that their tanking capability and speed is at risk. Even ferroscales are too weak to do anything. Exactly! If you want a fast assaulter/flanker go Minmatar assault and you will have more EHP while being faster than a tanked scout (at least Gal scout). Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1151	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:43:00 - [30] - Quote Aramis Madrigal wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile I like to play as a light assault and engage in a lot of flanking to place opposing teams in uncomfortable positions. To this end, I run a gal scout, brick tanked with a profile dampener because it is currently the best option for the play style I like. I'd happily run a min assault if it had any where near the same kind of functionality, but it doesn't currently. Many who play games like Dust are adept at using the tools available to them to craft the game play experience they want. Can you really fault someone for wanting to play a game in a way that is enjoyable to them? Go ahead and run something sub-optimal and/or obscure. If you're still effective with it, so much the better. However, don't try to dictate what I do with my game time because of the rigid conventions you hold with regard to what is right or proper. Cheers, Aramis The min assault certainly does have that flanking functionality. Especially if you have profile dampening to 5. I have proto min assault and proto gal scout on my alt. The min assault winds up being faster and having more HP than the gal scout. I only keep a gal scout assault fitting in case I want to armor tank over shield tanking for some reason. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

Skihids Bullet Cluster 3195	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:47:00 - [31] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tank + Movement + Hitbox + Scan Range + Scan Precision + Profile + 2nd equipment slot Cloak. Not everyone uses it for cloak, but the cloak is yet another advantage. Most assaults may be able to get more HP then their racial scout counterpart of the same tier, but overall the scouts advantages far outweigh the assaults. Assaults, and medium frames in general need to be improved through slot layouts, here is my plan to do so. Mini Logi with lower profile and higher movement. With a standard Logi getting a bonus for only one type of equipment the loss of that bonus isn't all that bad. A GAL scout can quickly easily flank the enemy and drop up to five uplinks. If he dies he loses at most two pieces of equipment instead of 3-4 so the risk goes down even more. He can run up and drop triage hives at the front and make it back out alive with a couple Kin-Kat mods. The Scout is much more versatile now with that second equipment slot. I think it will eventually eclipse the Logi suit.


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