DUST Search - CPM cloak discussion

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

SILENTSAM 69 wrote:

It is funny to see anyone is upset. The cloak is very balanced. It is very easy to spot a cloaked player if you just pay attention. I am almost worried some people have figured out a tint setting on their TV that makes that blue shimmer even more obvious than it already is.

Spotting cloaked players by scans does happen, and lights them up for your whole squad to see. Paying attention to your cursor going red, or seeing a strange shimmer on the side of the screen sets people apart. Some are observant and some are not.

The cloak has added well balanced fun, new tactics, and methods of finding your role on the battlefield. With all the people that see me quite easily at long range, I almost think it needs the blue shimmer toned down slightly, or maybe just only toned down when crouched. Making a reason for them to creep around while crouched to reduce shimmer would make the stealth even more fun. If it isn't already doing it and I just run around too much...

Fix any bugs of course, but I hope the cloak doesn't get changed. It is very well balanced and a great view of things to come.

Why is everyone suggesting to pay attention to the crosshair turning red as the counter for spotting cloaks. It sounds good in theory but practically, you can't afford to be concentrating on your crosshair all the time.


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SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 654	Posted - 2014.04.01 22:56:00 - [1] - Quote It is funny to see anyone is upset. The cloak is very balanced. It is very easy to spot a cloaked player if you just pay attention. I am almost worried some people have figured out a tint setting on their TV that makes that blue shimmer even more obvious than it already is. Spotting cloaked players by scans does happen, and lights them up for your whole squad to see. Paying attention to your cursor going red, or seeing a strange shimmer on the side of the screen sets people apart. Some are observant and some are not. The cloak has added well balanced fun, new tactics, and methods of finding your role on the battlefield. With all the people that see me quite easily at long range, I almost think it needs the blue shimmer toned down slightly, or maybe just only toned down when crouched. Making a reason for them to creep around while crouched to reduce shimmer would make the stealth even more fun. If it isn't already doing it and I just run around too much... Fix any bugs of course, but I hope the cloak doesn't get changed. It is very well balanced and a great view of things to come.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 659	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: It is funny to see anyone is upset. The cloak is very balanced. It is very easy to spot a cloaked player if you just pay attention. I am almost worried some people have figured out a tint setting on their TV that makes that blue shimmer even more obvious than it already is. Spotting cloaked players by scans does happen, and lights them up for your whole squad to see. Paying attention to your cursor going red, or seeing a strange shimmer on the side of the screen sets people apart. Some are observant and some are not. The cloak has added well balanced fun, new tactics, and methods of finding your role on the battlefield. With all the people that see me quite easily at long range, I almost think it needs the blue shimmer toned down slightly, or maybe just only toned down when crouched. Making a reason for them to creep around while crouched to reduce shimmer would make the stealth even more fun. If it isn't already doing it and I just run around too much... Fix any bugs of course, but I hope the cloak doesn't get changed. It is very well balanced and a great view of things to come. Why is everyone suggesting to pay attention to the crosshair turning red as the counter for spotting cloaks. It sounds good in theory but practically, you can't afford to be concentrating on your crosshair all the time. This is only when they stand still. If anything cloaked players are far too visible. The shimmer is about the most obvious shimmer that and cloak in an FPS game has ever had.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 659	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:31:00 - [3] - Quote Anyone who thinks the cloak makes you invisible is just not paying attention. Far too many people see me pretty easily at range. If any change needs to happen to the cloak it is to reduce the shimmer, at least when crouched. We have the most visible cloaked players in any FPS that I have played.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 663	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:10:00 - [4] - Quote Paul Ellinas wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: It is funny to see anyone is upset. The cloak is very balanced. It is very easy to spot a cloaked player if you just pay attention. I am almost worried some people have figured out a tint setting on their TV that makes that blue shimmer even more obvious than it already is. Spotting cloaked players by scans does happen, and lights them up for your whole squad to see. Paying attention to your cursor going red, or seeing a strange shimmer on the side of the screen sets people apart. Some are observant and some are not. The cloak has added well balanced fun, new tactics, and methods of finding your role on the battlefield. With all the people that see me quite easily at long range, I almost think it needs the blue shimmer toned down slightly, or maybe just only toned down when crouched. Making a reason for them to creep around while crouched to reduce shimmer would make the stealth even more fun. If it isn't already doing it and I just run around too much... Fix any bugs of course, but I hope the cloak doesn't get changed. It is very well balanced and a great view of things to come. Scouts with 700armor and 120shields and a clock are OP. A scout(a light frame drop suite) should not have the possibility to tank HP like assaults. They can choose to have a bad fit if they want. Those Scouts are easy to spot and often killed while cloaked because we can still see an indicator over their heads. If any change is made to the cloak it would be to offer ways to reduce the bright and obvious shimmer.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 663	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:21:00 - [5] - Quote If you think the cloak is invisible it is likely a TV issue. On some TV's may find it difficult to notice them, but to others they are bright shimmering targets that get shot at from a distance. Even with profile dampeners, and not being scanned, just see you as an obvious target ad kill you from far away. Cloaks require you to stand still if you really want to stay hidden, and they are vulnerable to scans. I see cloaked players standing still often enough with my passive scan alone. Often trying to bad tanked fit... There are easy tactics to making cloaked players exposed. Try a grenade if you are unsure, just as if you thought there might be some RE's hidden. They do run out, you could try standing still like a person did with me yesterday. He just waited out my cloak time. Plain and simple, there are work around and tactics to use. Quit crying for hand holding and try thinking and figuring out the balance.