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Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 822	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:22:00 - [1] - Quote A couple of things I've noticed as a dedicated sniper. 1. The decreased effectiveness of damage mods in combination with the changes to weapon proficiency (affecting shields and armor differently) have reduced the ability of snipers to directly kill targets. I'm getting more assists now. 2. Cloaking allows players to run across open areas so that they are nearly invisible at sniper rifle ranges, despite the "shimmer". This is definitely making it tougher (if not nearly impossible) to snipe. 3. Scouts are much more deadly sniper hunters. Not complaining - scouts needed a buff and they are now more "scouty". This is actually a good counter to snipers. 4. The lack of decloak when hacking makes it much, much harder for a sniper to defend a hackable object (NULL cannons, supply depots, CRUs). Your thoughts? Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2246	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:24:00 - [2] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: A couple of things I've noticed as a dedicated sniper. 1. The decreased effectiveness of damage mods in combination with the changes to weapon proficiency (affecting shields and armor differently) have reduced the ability of snipers to directly kill targets. I'm getting more assists now. 2. Cloaking allows players to run across open areas so that they are nearly invisible at sniper rifle ranges, despite the "shimmer". This is definitely making it tougher (if not nearly impossible) to snipe. 3. Scouts are much more deadly sniper hunters. Not complaining - scouts needed a buff and they are now more "scouty". This is actually a good counter to snipers. 4. The lack of decloak when hacking makes it much, much harder for a sniper to defend a hackable object (NULL cannons, supply depots, CRUs). Your thoughts? Munch use a commando suit and leave the red line, the nerfes directly nerf all aspects of sniping, but the caldari commando suit allows you to snipe while ground fighting, and being able to defend yourself, this is the only option snipers have left if they want to be useful. you are basically just being another slayer but at least you have varying combat ranges.
Mr Retsof VI Swiss Bank of New Eden 41	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:45:00 - [3] - Quote Cpl Foster, USMC here (Forum Banned).... All that Poon (may I call you "Poon" ? ) said is true....but it's not all bad. Forget all that "wear a Commando suit" junk...cause it's junk.... I spec'd right back into my Logi mk.0, slapped on my usual stuff + cloak and went 20-2-0 in the 1st match outta 1.8 with a Charge.. what I noticed was 'Freedom of Movement'....Snipe, Cloak, Move, and Snipe.....it was great....same Tactics as before, but it felt better for some reason...and then I logged off. I will check in about 5 minutes whether it was a 1-time good match or if it's what I can expect for now on.... "War is money...if you have it, you win."
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2246	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:56:00 - [4] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: Cpl Foster, USMC here (Forum Banned).... All that Poon (may I call you "Poon" ? ) said is true....but it's not all bad. Forget all that "wear a Commando suit" junk...cause it's junk.... I spec'd right back into my Logi mk.0, slapped on my usual stuff + cloak and went 20-2-0 in the 1st match outta 1.8 with a Charge.. what I noticed was 'Freedom of Movement'....Snipe, Cloak, Move, and Snipe.....it was great....same Tactics as before, but it felt better for some reason...and then I logged off. I will check in about 5 minutes whether it was a 1-time good match or if it's what I can expect for now on.... you think the caldari commando is bad? ya that's not the case O.o
Mr Retsof VI Swiss Bank of New Eden 41	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:40:00 - [5] - Quote I like you Calisk, most of your opinions anyway about the Sniper game. Commando suits do not fit for the type of Sniper role that I like to play. They are good for what I guess is the style you play. I just don't like them and don't think the word 'Commando' can even describe that suit correctly. "War is money...if you have it, you win."
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2249	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:43:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: I like you Calisk, most of your opinions anyway about the Sniper game. Commando suits do not fit for the type of Sniper role that I like to play. They are good for what I guess is the style you play. I just don't like them and don't think the word 'Commando' can even describe that suit correctly. i'm curious how do you snipe? scout sniper? red line? ground? I don't really care which I do them all, but i'm curious which you think the logi is better for.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 582	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:51:00 - [7] - Quote Snipers have been broken since I started playing. Idk what they were like before 1.4 or 1.5 They're unusable and they need to be completely reworked from the ground up. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2249	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:54:00 - [8] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Snipers have been broken since I started playing. Idk what they were like before 1.4 or 1.5 They're unusable and they need to be completely reworked from the ground up. a little more useful with combat rifle as your side arm and 1100hp
Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 166	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:23:00 - [9] - Quote Why not cloak commando snipe in a cladari mando. Take sniper rifle of choice, as many damage mods as you can fit, a regulator in your low and whatever sidearm/light weapon you like. You get a 25% reload reduction and a 10% damage bonus at proto. You probably can't fit great damage mods but it still seems viable. Note I am not a sniper so this totally might not work and the fitting might not handle it but it sounds plausible.
Strker Remorse OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:30:00 - [10] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: A couple of things I've noticed as a dedicated sniper. 1. The decreased effectiveness of damage mods in combination with the changes to weapon proficiency (affecting shields and armor differently) have reduced the ability of snipers to directly kill targets. I'm getting more assists now. 2. Cloaking allows players to run across open areas so that they are nearly invisible at sniper rifle ranges, despite the "shimmer". This is definitely making it tougher (if not nearly impossible) to snipe. 3. Scouts are much more deadly sniper hunters. Not complaining - scouts needed a buff and they are now more "scouty". This is actually a good counter to snipers. 4. The lack of decloak when hacking makes it much, much harder for a sniper to defend a hackable object (NULL cannons, supply depots, CRUs). Your thoughts? Munch 1a. I agree that kills as a sniper are way down, it takes me 2-3 shots with a charge rifle to put down a well tanked scout, 7 shots to kill a heavy 1b. my feeling is that sniper rifles need a buff across the board for range, dps, and scope magnification, (and any one who bitches about redlines can sit on my charge rifle and spin not all snipers sit there, and when we do it's generally the only place that we can carry out our mission) 1c. the other issue is that as a sniper I should be able to shoot right across the map, (ie from red line to red line and see what I'm targeting, which is your solution to redline snipers. 2. I killed 2 cloaked scouts yesterday, you can follow the shimmer and shoot where it stops or like me shoot as they move. 3. Yeah I think cloaky scouts will be dispised as much as snipers one day 4. if you can see a letter being hacked and snipe into it you'll get a hit, but I agree there should be no hacking cloaked. I snipe in either a scout, assault or logi suit. these give me better mobility. "That bastards been sitting up in the rocks all morning just waiting for two idiots to line up in his sights."

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1030	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:36:00 - [11] - Quote 1. This needs to be fixed for snipers. Perhaps proficiency increases headshot damage. 2. This is good. You can easily OHK any scout suit with an advanced sniper, let alone a proto one with a CalCommando suit. 3. This is as it should be. 4. This is as it should be. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1100	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:57:00 - [12] - Quote Disagree with the cloaking point. I run a 32 inch gaming monitor and have no trouble seeing cloaks Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1


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