DUST Search - Saving scouts.

Lucifalic wrote:

Been scout for a long time. Went through nerf after nerf to my frame but stuck it out. Finally we get the suit to where it should be and what do we get? Assaults and slayer logis jumping ship and brick tanking a scout... With a cloak.

This sucks. So what can we do about it. My idea is t drop th ability to tank a scout. Let's face it, lore wise (and sense wise) it's a light frame not designed for heavy armor. Therefore.... Don't allow it on the suit. Make it so scouts can only be fit with 1 plate total OR only ferroscale plates. No one will stack a bunch of ferro plates either as they are resource hogs.

The exception here would be amar scout which being an armor tanking race should be allowed to fit with as many plates as they want. This gives amsr a unique scout that can be a light assault or fit to e more scoutly.

Shields can be fit but any shield module past the first would give a profile penalty (10% basic, 15% advanced, 20% proto) except for the caldari who could fit maybe 2 without penalty or however many that would be balanced. Amar should never use shields

This would end tanked scouts, give amar scout a unique versatile role, and drive slayer logis and assaults from the suit. Give them a suit refund if they submit a ticket or something.

Most scouts didn't want a cloak, but it's easily balanced. Put a delay between decloaking and shooting. Slight sound within say 10 m or something, flux nades should drop the cloak field. It's otherwise fine and 6-700 ehp scouts won't be decloak blapping people. Instead it will be more of a movement aid and escape tool more then an attack tool.

I'm a dedicated gal and mini scout. Sg, smg, cr, nk, remotes.


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Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:06:00 - [1] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: Been scout for a long time. Went through nerf after nerf to my frame but stuck it out. Finally we get the suit to where it should be and what do we get? Assaults and slayer logis jumping ship and brick tanking a scout... With a cloak. This sucks. So what can we do about it. My idea is t drop th ability to tank a scout. Let's face it, lore wise (and sense wise) it's a light frame not designed for heavy armor. Therefore.... Don't allow it on the suit. Make it so scouts can only be fit with 1 plate total OR only ferroscale plates. No one will stack a bunch of ferro plates either as they are resource hogs. The exception here would be amar scout which being an armor tanking race should be allowed to fit with as many plates as they want. This gives amsr a unique scout that can be a light assault or fit to e more scoutly. Shields can be fit but any shield module past the first would give a profile penalty (10% basic, 15% advanced, 20% proto) except for the caldari who could fit maybe 2 without penalty or however many that would be balanced. Amar should never use shields This would end tanked scouts, give amar scout a unique versatile role, and drive slayer logis and assaults from the suit. Give them a suit refund if they submit a ticket or something. Most scouts didn't want a cloak, but it's easily balanced. Put a delay between decloaking and shooting. Slight sound within say 10 m or something, flux nades should drop the cloak field. It's otherwise fine and 6-700 ehp scouts won't be decloak blapping people. Instead it will be more of a movement aid and escape tool more then an attack tool. I'm a dedicated gal and mini scout. Sg, smg, cr, nk, remotes. Remove cloaks, scout keep their bonuses they got in 1.8 including a second equipment a lot and an additional high or low slot. Scouts will be fine without their crutch, i mean cloaks. I was fine in 1.7 and before and I'll be fine once you've removed the in game addition from the CCP hospital. Scouts are just in denial. I've msg someone about NK invisible,yesterday and he refused to accept he was invisible but clearly seeing the new bug video he was and bad to know. Scouts has it sort of hard for a long time, now they are like superman and batman and don't want to return to a balanced class. Its understandable but it's not reasonable or honest.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 125	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:14:00 - [2] - Quote Zepod wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Dont think you can play your scout like you have always been. Think more about how you can adapt your fitting and playstyle to be able to counter a heavily tanked scout. Do not go and tell others what they cannot do just because your tactics fail. I don't need to do anything. Scouts and Heavies all die quickly to my Shotgun anyways. That doesn't change the fact that Scouts have way too much eHP for their own good. I don't believe you were okay with Logistics users abusing their class for higher eHP, so I'm not too sure why it's okay for Scouts to do the same. This is where the cloaks bitches go. There is nothing wrong with brick tanking a scout, just like theres nothing wrong with tanking a Logi. So what if a scout can have 750-800 eHP, they should not be a problem. A scout can do whatever he wants, if the Amarr scout doesn't want to play the Gal niche of stealth,then he can certainly make his own niche as a high stamina, quick, light infantry unit. You can't see someone not to use his slots however he wants. He is going to pick what he thinks is best, and right now brick tanking is best. It's not abusing the suits, it's not abusing his given slot layout, he is doing what he can with what has been provided. The problem is cloaks, they need to go. Remove cloaks, cloaks are the problem. They cover up bad game play and are a crutch to **** players. All you see is former ** scouts defending how fair the capes are because they went from a 1 k/d scout to a 6 k/d scout and they think they deserve this boost. They don't learn how to play scout properly, they just use the cloak to fix all their problems and attack with no regard. Cloaks are a crutch and scouts dont want to admit their a problem because it means a Nerf and a return to their old **** scout days. And as for new scouts, the former Logi slayers, they feel cloaks are a right as well, they want to be able to slay anyone 1v1 in their new suit and are being a bunch of tank x3 hardener deniers. In a honest assessment of my scout and his cloak, i find the cloak has to go.