DUST Search - Slayer Scouts

Bethhy wrote:

NAV HIV wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

You people just forget what DUST was...

So Long has it been a Logistic and Assault game... In Chromosome.. It was all about the scout and the heavy.. And it's what largely made it GREAT!

Meeting a heavy is a "Ohshitz" moment that it should be...

Paranoid about scouts sneaking up is how it should be.

Logi's still slay both of these classes well.

Commandos will down both with ease.

Assaults are becoming the Niche class, But some people have made them work well.

Dust has never been more Balanced Since Chromosome.

Well said... I wouldn't go as far as calling it balanced, but it surely is Diversified... It's good to see actual slayer suits slaying not brick tanked lolLogi suits. . . Scouts are scary as they are supposed to be. Heavies, well they are bloody heavies! People wanna solo heavies with CR and RR and AR and any other weapon?!

Btw my cal Scout have about 400+ ehp, no need to brick tank n stuff, it's more fun going 20-1 in that scout than going 30+ kills in my other suits.

I have played DUST for nearly two years..

Every patch someone will come on the forums and ask what the best thing in the game is.... Every patch there is a mass public consensus over one thing being the strongest..

That isn't the case in 1.8... It's rare and should be looked at with admiration...

People got home from Work and School, Jumped on the forums and asked that question... You know what they got for answers? What would you get right now if you made a thread?

Like 10 different people all claiming 10 different suits and combinations are the best.... That has never happened in the history of DUST 514.

If that isn't balance... with this many variables in fittings and suit? then i don't know what is... Is it perfect? No...

But its pretty amazing nonetheless.

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AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 260	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:32:00 - [1] - Quote We scouts are a broken peoples. We waited so long for buffs and are so protective of the progress we've made that some of us are already calling for minor nerfs to the suit and the cloak lest the logi/assault/heavy brigade realize they can't compete and ask for the nerf hammer(which would be the end of scouts forever because we all know CCP hates this class and we'd never get balanced again). We figure that if we ask for minor nerfs ourselves we can avoid the nuclear nerf that would be wrought forth by the the complaining class of this game. I find this sad. that being said, I do miss life on hard mode. You know, having no advantages, less armor, less shields, an unreliable weapons, no CPU or pg - nothing but my own strategy and cunning. That was scouting pre-1.8 and as frustrating as it was, I miss it. I Noted in my corp chat that the only difference between my new militia fit and my old proto fit was a single low slot. But I appreciate the changes made. They were much needed and are a great addition to the game. That being said, there is a virulent strain of scoutism out there. You know, the slayer scouts. These are the offspring of the slayer logis, the people who abuse game mechanics to gain the slightest edge because they can't compete on even grounds. Back then, they abused the caldari logis 9 slots and 4 equipment a (seriously, how was this suit ever allowed in a game where the scout had 5 slots and 1 equipment), now they are abusing cloaking, brick tanking their "scouts", threatening the buffs we've waited almost a year for and are generally breaking the game. As a scout purist, who runs his proto gallente with 87 shields and 162 armor (or 70/130 bc lol bugs), I find this appalling. It is true that I rarely ever run proto in 1.8- I mostly run militia - I miss the challenge too much.... I may splurge every once in a while on a standard or even an advanced fit if I want to experience the cloak - but I don't abuse it. Even outside of cloaking CCP did a great job of balancing the scout and I'm appreciative of it. I think what I'm saying, if I'm saying anything at all is that, from this moment till we've purged all the wannabes I will be hunting exclusively scout tryhards. Good day gentlemen!
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1123	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote lolol i know you scouts have it bad just like us heavies, but CCP hating you? lol CCP wanted to nerf the heavies by 20% EHP on the day it was released, now thats some serious hate right there. well i have nothing against the true scouts, but these new wannabe scouts slapping on so much armor plates they're pretty much on par with a heavy in terms of EHP? now thats just wrong in so many ways. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5289	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:42:00 - [3] - Quote Agreed, saddened, but I do agree. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2063	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:47:00 - [4] - Quote - Nuff said FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2063	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:48:00 - [5] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: lolol i know you scouts have it bad just like us heavies, but CCP hating you? lol CCP wanted to nerf the heavies by 20% EHP on the day it was released, now thats some serious hate right there. well i have nothing against the true scouts, but these new wannabe scouts slapping on so much armor plates they're pretty much on par with a heavy in terms of EHP? now thats just wrong in so many ways. Do you mean that if they max tank their suits they can get a little over half the EHP of a fatty? Learn to do Math - it helps! FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1224	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:49:00 - [6] - Quote Scouts are awesome. Finally everyone is looking around before moving to a certain position. It's great... Great work on Scouts CCP. Not just me, i've spoken to a lot of people about this new build, except for some minor bugs, It has been great. It's FUN to play now... See guys, "FUN"... Which we didn't have for a while People asking for a Scout Nerf should be ashamed of themselves. If you can't fight a 400-600 hp light dropsuit, then you should spec into tanks and hide in a 6k shell....
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2192	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:49:00 - [7] - Quote The scouts seem to be where they need to be, bad ones die and good ones kill. I love it and I only run a dragonfly when I want to drop some UL. I don't see anything wrong with the light frames. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 926	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:50:00 - [8] - Quote Good points, and I suspect Slayer Logis will be replaced, by and in large, with the Scout Slayer -- in fact, I'm already seeing it. That said, one small correction, I don't believe Cal Logi ever had 4 equipment, but rather 3. They absolutely had 3 equipment slots just prior to 1.8, and I'm only unsure if it was ever 4.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 848	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:54:00 - [9] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Good points, and I suspect Slayer Logis will be replaced, by and in large, with the Scout Slayer -- in fact, I'm already seeing it. That said, one small correction, I don't believe Cal Logi ever had 4 equipment, but rather 3. They absolutely had 3 equipment slots just prior to 1.8, and I'm only unsure if it was ever 4. I see the scout slayer already moving to heavies more ehp...
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 75	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:55:00 - [10] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Good points, and I suspect Slayer Logis will be replaced, by and in large, with the Scout Slayer -- in fact, I'm already seeing it. That said, one small correction, I don't believe Cal Logi ever had 4 equipment, but rather 3. They absolutely had 3 equipment slots just prior to 1.8, and I'm only unsure if it was ever 4. I am using cloaks as a logi only when I want to place drop uplinks safely, remotes as well, but never focus on engaging in combat. So there s this.

Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 542	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:57:00 - [11] - Quote We probably need something to do with efficacy of biotics, dampening and scanning modules so people aren't as incentivised to stack HP "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
rpastry The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 150	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:59:00 - [12] - Quote [Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1125	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:04:00 - [13] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: lolol i know you scouts have it bad just like us heavies, but CCP hating you? lol CCP wanted to nerf the heavies by 20% EHP on the day it was released, now thats some serious hate right there. well i have nothing against the true scouts, but these new wannabe scouts slapping on so much armor plates they're pretty much on par with a heavy in terms of EHP? now thats just wrong in so many ways. Do you mean that if they max tank their suits they can get a little over half the EHP of a fatty? Learn to do Math - it helps! ah i've seem to have wrote EHP rather than armor for those armor plates, my bad, been too focused on the EHP bit of the heavies these days. well im talking about myself mostly, i dont slap on full armor plates on my heavy. i just run ADV Gal Sentinel with 2 repair mods and 1 armor plate so my armor isn't all that. im pretty sure a tanked out armor scout might have more than a normal minmatar heavy? wouldnt know since i dont use the minmatar heavy due to the lack of a respectable EHP number. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
noob cavman Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 964	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:04:00 - [14] - Quote Fit with 2 complex kincats. Check. Fit with 3 plates. check. Fit with two comp damps. Check. Fit with 2 types of remotes. Check. Fit with shotgun. Check. Fit with carth scrambler rifle. Check Fit with boundless combat rifle. Check. Fit with ishi knives. Check Fit with 2 prototype uplinks. Check. I have many fits for my gal scout. I dont need anyone else telling me how to fit my scout or how ive been playin it wrong for the last year. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ We are the blue waffle!
Aszazel Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 139	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:06:00 - [15] - Quote I quit R 0 N 1 N last night in a rant and I don't know if I am going to re-join. The life of a scout is over for me, I spent all night tanking making way more WP than I did while I was scouting for the first 4 matches. I played for 5 months learning how to outwit and out maneuver my enemies; I learned a lot of painful lessons and was finally getting to a +2 KDR game. What CCP has done with cloaks..........it isn't a new equipment or a balance change, its starting all over, the scouts that have starting playing since 1.8 for FOTM (you know, the ones that have core skills maxed out since beta and I am still trying with my 10Mil SP) are instantly better scouts then me now, they have complex dampeners, precision, and range which I can't even buy AU versions of. So I either run without one and get slaughtered by those wearing them, or use one and feel like a scrub and STILL get killed often, only now am losing an additional 3.5K. NOT TO MENTION MY FRICKEN SUIT IS STILL BUGGED. They found time to hot fix heavies health but can't fix the G-1 suit, so I either have to roll advanced or use a AU version. LOL CCP Lets us hack cloaked *take away half the installations and CRU's It was a good run, I'll miss you scouty scout. Actually that was the only class I enjoyed playing, so I guess I am done with this game.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1492	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:08:00 - [16] - Quote You people just forget what DUST was... So Long has it been a Logistic and Assault game... In Chromosome.. It was all about the scout and the heavy.. And it's what largely made it GREAT! Meeting a heavy is a "Ohshitz" moment that it should be... Paranoid about scouts sneaking up is how it should be. Logi's still slay both of these classes well. Commandos will down both with ease. Assaults are becoming the Niche class, But some people have made them work well. Dust has never been more Balanced Since Chromosome.
castba Penguin's March 356	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:13:00 - [17] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Scouts are awesome. Finally everyone is looking around before moving to a certain position. It's great... Great work on Scouts CCP. Not just me, i've spoken to a lot of people about this new build, except for some minor bugs, It has been great. It's FUN to play now... See guys, "FUN"... Which we didn't have for a while People asking for a Scout Nerf should be ashamed of themselves. If you can't fight a 400-600 hp light dropsuit, then you should spec into tanks and hide in a 6k shell.... This. Also, when have we heavies asked for a nerf to scouts?
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1228	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:17:00 - [18] - Quote Bethhy wrote: You people just forget what DUST was... So Long has it been a Logistic and Assault game... In Chromosome.. It was all about the scout and the heavy.. And it's what largely made it GREAT! Meeting a heavy is a "Ohshitz" moment that it should be... Paranoid about scouts sneaking up is how it should be. Logi's still slay both of these classes well. Commandos will down both with ease. Assaults are becoming the Niche class, But some people have made them work well. Dust has never been more Balanced Since Chromosome. Well said... I wouldn't go as far as calling it balanced, but it surely is Diversified... It's good to see actual slayer suits slaying not brick tanked lolLogi suits. . . Scouts are scary as they are supposed to be. Heavies, well they are bloody heavies! People wanna solo heavies with CR and RR and AR and any other weapon?! Btw my cal Scout have about 400+ ehp, no need to brick tank n stuff, it's more fun going 20-1 in that scout than going 30+ kills in my other suits.
Dr3W Icar MEN IN BLACK OPS 272	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:21:00 - [19] - Quote +1 AfroSunshineY Consequence I'm a Sad Old Scout.... the cloak has broke the game....the old times were better. long live the old scout P.D. Sry for my english! Ad Astra Per Aspera Shotgun My love!!!, scout my life!!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1497	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:22:00 - [20] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Bethhy wrote: You people just forget what DUST was... So Long has it been a Logistic and Assault game... In Chromosome.. It was all about the scout and the heavy.. And it's what largely made it GREAT! Meeting a heavy is a "Ohshitz" moment that it should be... Paranoid about scouts sneaking up is how it should be. Logi's still slay both of these classes well. Commandos will down both with ease. Assaults are becoming the Niche class, But some people have made them work well. Dust has never been more Balanced Since Chromosome. Well said... I wouldn't go as far as calling it balanced, but it surely is Diversified... It's good to see actual slayer suits slaying not brick tanked lolLogi suits. . . Scouts are scary as they are supposed to be. Heavies, well they are bloody heavies! People wanna solo heavies with CR and RR and AR and any other weapon?! Btw my cal Scout have about 400+ ehp, no need to brick tank n stuff, it's more fun going 20-1 in that scout than going 30+ kills in my other suits. I have played DUST for nearly two years.. Every patch someone will come on the forums and ask what the best thing in the game is.... Every patch there is a mass public consensus over one thing being the strongest.. That isn't the case in 1.8... It's rare and should be looked at with admiration... People got home from Work and School, Jumped on the forums and asked that question... You know what they got for answers? What would you get right now if you made a thread? Like 10 different people all claiming 10 different suits and combinations are the best.... That has never happened in the history of DUST 514. If that isn't balance... with this many variables in fittings and suit? then i don't know what is... Is it perfect? No... But its pretty amazing nonetheless.

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2001	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:26:00 - [21] - Quote You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Here: have a like for all that it's worth.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1231	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:26:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Bethhy wrote: You people just forget what DUST was... So Long has it been a Logistic and Assault game... In Chromosome.. It was all about the scout and the heavy.. And it's what largely made it GREAT! Meeting a heavy is a "Ohshitz" moment that it should be... Paranoid about scouts sneaking up is how it should be. Logi's still slay both of these classes well. Commandos will down both with ease. Assaults are becoming the Niche class, But some people have made them work well. Dust has never been more Balanced Since Chromosome. Well said... I wouldn't go as far as calling it balanced, but it surely is Diversified... It's good to see actual slayer suits slaying not brick tanked lolLogi suits. . . Scouts are scary as they are supposed to be. Heavies, well they are bloody heavies! People wanna solo heavies with CR and RR and AR and any other weapon?! Btw my cal Scout have about 400+ ehp, no need to brick tank n stuff, it's more fun going 20-1 in that scout than going 30+ kills in my other suits. I have played DUST for nearly two years.. Every patch someone will come on the forums and ask what the best thing in the game is.... Every patch there is a mass public consensus over one thing being the strongest.. That isn't the case in 1.8... It's rare and should be looked at with admiration... People got home from Work and School, Jumped on the forums and asked that question... You know what they got for answers? What would you get right now if you made a thread? Like 10 different people all claiming 10 different suits and combinations are the best.... That has never happened in the history of DUST 514. If that isn't balance... with this many variables in fittings and suit? then i don't know what is... Is it perfect? No... But its pretty amazing nonetheless. Agreed, and i think i can safely say that, most of us who stuck by this game for so long are finally happy with it... Not breaking controllers and such this week lol
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1734	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:32:00 - [23] - Quote I usually go (1-8)/(1-8) KDR (with a .80 KDR right now and slowly climbing), and my WP count usually hovers between 1000-1500. I land in the top half of my team's leader board more often than not. I am responsible, directly or indirectly, for about 6-8 NULL flips per match. If it hair-lips six generations, the NULL I'm nearest is blue for my team. I go entire matches without pulling anything but uplinks and an SMG. I haven't equipped a cloak once, and probably never will. I am a scout, and the rest of you aren't. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1666	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:33:00 - [24] - Quote Scout suit is the only suit my scout is trained in. I ran the Gal suit when that was the only Gal suit. I therefore, use it for whatever. I tank it to run as an assault when I want to do that. I like that I can adapt it instead of running all the other suits. I'm running assault in hard mode. So, one man's scrub is another man's hero. I don't understand where this mentality is coming from that a scout is only supposed to be a ninja. It is a scout. They scout ahead and give intel, links et al. The whole assassin thing is not the role, only a playstyle best done in the scout suit. The Amarr should properly be tanked to move forward into enemy lines and take hits. Other racial scouts can do the same though not the main benefit. Cal is intel. Gal is stealth. Minny is fast capping. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy


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