DUST Search - Are there still logis around?

zzZaXxx wrote:

DozersMouse XIII wrote:

as of yesterday heavy's dont need support

std hmg is killing at 40+ meters with no logi support

heavy's are running around the maps rearranging face with all the resist bonuses and extra HP

while the lonely logi sits around the objective waiting for his love to come back

Wow I hadn't put that together but you're right! It's not just scouts that are running off and breaking up squads. It's heavies now that are also running off with no regard for me. Minmatar and Caldari heavies are more mobile and shieldy so maybe they prefer running around to staying within rep tool range. As I see it they would benefit from repping as much as Amarr or Gallente though.

It's making a bit more sense now, but it still sucks. Today and yesterday I keep trying my damndest to stick with a group and before I know it I'm all alone. Then I try to get to somewhere I can be useful and along the way I get sucker punched by a scout. I try not to be an a$$hole on comms telling squadmates I need them to work with me. Hasn't worked so far. Whatever. It's fine. (Punches hole in wall.)

btw are you saying HMG has better range now or just that the new heavies can engage without support better due to their speed/shields/resists?

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Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 615	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:18:00 - [1] - Quote Since im hearing the slayer logis went "scout",is their anyone who stuck to it? A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. GalHeav E-vo
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11766	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:18:00 - [2] - Quote i cant hear you over how good i am at this game i is leet scout What was that about logis? Oh, you mean last build. Hah, some people are slow. Literally. And metaphorically. cloaks and leaves thread You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Chimichanga66605 Myrmidon Syndicate 76	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:21:00 - [3] - Quote Logistics Mk.0 since day one & never looking back. I'm currently addicted to Commando with a Core Rep tool...but still got my Uber-Medic when its needed. "By the love of my skin, I $hit on your nose, so it runs down your chin." -Mozart
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 72	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:21:00 - [4] - Quote Me, but only when I'm in squad. Blues usually don't give a f... what happens to me around 5 sec after I heal them.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3141	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:23:00 - [5] - Quote Everyone was complaining about my "equipment spam", so I'm riding in a tank or in my dropship. You can walk to the nearest supply depot if you want ammo, and you can spawn in at the back and hike in or ride a LAV. Let me know when the majority of the player base wants to see me again.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 277	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:23:00 - [6] - Quote as of yesterday heavy's dont need support std hmg is killing at 40+ meters with no logi support heavy's are running around the maps rearranging face with all the resist bonuses and extra HP while the lonely logi sits around the objective waiting for his love to come back Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 119	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:25:00 - [7] - Quote I have a logi adv, used to be proto but its still good, if im in a squad ill go logi, solo im in scout. Havent been in a squad since 1.8 dropped tho
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1108	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:25:00 - [8] - Quote I still have proto Gallente logi, but I don't see me running it outside of a squad. I have a commando I need to let the community kill a bunch Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 122	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:28:00 - [9] - Quote I'll just echo what's being said here. I will run logi in a squad outside of that it's skinweave scout ftw GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 293	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:31:00 - [10] - Quote I've actually run across quite a few logi suits lately, all chasing around heavies. Ran into a crowd of em earlier and left some explosive presents before vaulting over a railing. Was pretty funny watching that kill feed. There are definitely still plenty of logi suits around, just not as many slayer logi players. Those left are the dedicated. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!

Rusty Shallows 1266	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:36:00 - [11] - Quote My Logi ALT was never a Slayer and yes he's still around. I am loving the change from Medic to Combat Engineer. The skill changes even let me fit on some grenades that were being crowded out by Equipment. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
zzZaXxx G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION 259	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:42:00 - [12] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Since im hearing the slayers logis went "scout",is their anyone who stuck to it? I did. I skilled up to Min Logi 4 and am kinda glad I waited on 5. I'm trying to squad up with guys and rep them. It's not working out too well. When squadmates aren't spreading out to the wind in their scout suits I'm getting shotgunned in the back or running away from heavies or being focus fired on. I was excited to to be an armor repping specialist but I feel obsolete. Logis are almost as squishy as scouts but with less battlefield awareness, less speed, and less options. Scanning used to be a good reason to be a logi but now it's worthless if you're not Gallente. Passive armor rep helped with survivability. Now that's gone and we're squishier. I'm a better armor repper now but I'm also utterly dependant on wether or not my squadmates cooperate with me. That's a recipe for frustration. I'm also considered fresh meat on sight since enemies know I'm probably all about armor repping/support and not combat. Maybe if I can find a way to consistently squad up with guys that won't squander/ignore what I have to offer I can get into a groove. I still have a chance to be a force multipler. If I can find two heavies who will stick with me I can rep them with a Six Kin at +3m range and +20% rep amount, provide intel with good passive precision and range, provide proto hives and links, res them with proto needle, and occasionally help with gun game. I can make a decent squad good, and a good squad great. But a disorganized squad that doesn't work together or make smart decisions....they just get me killed while I try to help them. To be honest I'm pretty frustrated at the moment.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 672	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:49:00 - [13] - Quote I switched from Assault to Logi and I gotta say i'm having fun. Once I got over the instinct to fight, as oppossed to support, things started coming together for me. The games no where near where I want it to be. Not only is nearly everyone below passive and active scans due to the large influx of scouts, but combine with the large influx of heavies it is very very scary away from protected blue letters for medium suits. For what it's worth i'm having fun with the new play style, much lower stress level fortifying a letter and supporting as oppossed to front line killing. Plus, I always got the ol' Incubus to take me up above the nonsense going on at ground level. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2127	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:50:00 - [14] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Since im hearing the slayer logis went "scout",is their anyone who stuck to it? Some.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2910	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:50:00 - [15] - Quote I switched from proto amarr logi to minmatar logi, taking this char right back to its roots but I have proto min heavy and assault also. I won't be using the min assault until its bonus bug is fixed. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2910	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:53:00 - [16] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: as of yesterday heavy's dont need support std hmg is killing at 40+ meters with no logi support heavy's are running around the maps rearranging face with all the resist bonuses and extra HP while the lonely logi sits around the objective waiting for his love to come back Nah, you guys just run around all over the place lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 194	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:57:00 - [17] - Quote I'm still an Amarr Logistic, been thinking about doing scout-logi but the loss of CPU/PG is just too great, especially given I'd not be enjoying the Logistic equipment bonus. Still, the Amarr Scout does look nice.
zzZaXxx G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION 261	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:00:00 - [18] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: as of yesterday heavy's dont need support std hmg is killing at 40+ meters with no logi support heavy's are running around the maps rearranging face with all the resist bonuses and extra HP while the lonely logi sits around the objective waiting for his love to come back Wow I hadn't put that together but you're right! It's not just scouts that are running off and breaking up squads. It's heavies now that are also running off with no regard for me. Minmatar and Caldari heavies are more mobile and shieldy so maybe they prefer running around to staying within rep tool range. As I see it they would benefit from repping as much as Amarr or Gallente though. It's making a bit more sense now, but it still sucks. Today and yesterday I keep trying my damndest to stick with a group and before I know it I'm all alone. Then I try to get to somewhere I can be useful and along the way I get sucker punched by a scout. I try not to be an a$$hole on comms telling squadmates I need them to work with me. Hasn't worked so far. Whatever. It's fine. (Punches hole in wall.) btw are you saying HMG has better range now or just that the new heavies can engage without support better due to their speed/shields/resists?
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2839	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:01:00 - [19] - Quote IGÇÖm still here! Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven 160	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:02:00 - [20] - Quote My Triage and Ammo hives welcome all clones who've had it rough on the battlefront. o/ Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm Director of PAND3M0N1UM Lai Dai Flux & Focused Core Repair Tool "Expert"

Tectonic Fusion 1325	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:02:00 - [21] - Quote I'll probably get Gallente Medium Frames to 3 and get Gal Logi to level 1 and that's it. No looking back. Caldari Scout here I come! Solo Player Squad status: Locked
da master beta Kinsho Swords Caldari State 35	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:08:00 - [22] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Since im hearing the slayer logis went "scout",is their anyone who stuck to it? Was a slayer logi ever really a logi or just an assaulter with dropsuit-identity issues?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1474	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:09:00 - [23] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Since im hearing the slayer logis went "scout",is their anyone who stuck to it? Cal logi is the slayer logi... Brick tanked they are 1000 HP can wear a cloak and use rep nanohives while cloaked... Gal Logi is awesome aswell... Good tank... only viable active scanner left in the game IMO. Has 4-5 sec window where scans are dark... then light it up again. Min Logi's are the War point Heroes... With the TTk changes and the new heavies and commandos... You could spend most matches just picking people up, Repairing and giving ammo. You really wouldn't have to use you gun now if you didn't want to. But the suit is squishy under fire. Edit* Oh and went from 14 Stamina regen to 45 per second.. Full Stamina in 3 seconds? amazing. Amarr Logi. Have to ask Shayz. :( Those Uplinks will always be the deciding factor to any match... It's still got a solid tank.. And a side arm. No one walks through a good heavy anymore... And it's awesome.. It's like chromosome days when heavies made you go "OH NOES" and have to use range, tactics, headshots and straffing to fight them. That right there limits the Logi's of being king of the hill for slayer and all around performance on the battlefield.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:17:00 - [24] - Quote my logi is reserved for friends and pc employers the blue dots of new eden are not worth not having something that kills in my hands A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Patrick57 6147	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:18:00 - [25] - Quote What's so bad about going Scout in 1.8? Cloaks aren't OP if you have any awareness... Although, I did see a Proto Gal Logi earlier camping on Triage Hives with a Proto CR, scanning me even in my double damps and with my Cloak activated.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 810	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:22:00 - [26] - Quote I have my server suit but I am waiting to see the changes they said they were doing before going all in again. don't want to spend all that isk just to find out they make my minm suit even squishier while expecting me to rep and thus become the primary target. Till then it's cheap scout fits and stacking isk that I'd normally lose running logi fits. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Zelorian Dexter snr Axis of Chaos 186	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:29:00 - [27] - Quote I have been a dedicated logi since closed beta. I am still here dropping triage hive and running my six kin repper. Always a logi never a slayer
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3148	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:45:00 - [28] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: I'm still an Amarr Logistic, been thinking about doing scout-logi but the loss of CPU/PG is just too great, especially given I'd not be enjoying the Logistic equipment bonus. Still, the Amarr Scout does look nice. I'm thinking the Scout would make a much better suit for tactical uplink placement. Pre 1.8 I'd try to sneak into an area with my dampened Minmitar Logi, but it seems it would be far easier in a deeply dampened Scout who could also passive scan a wide area. I could drop 4-5 uplinks with the two equipment slots.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 314	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:48:00 - [29] - Quote my main went from minassault to minlogi, not for a slayer role, because i play support/pilot on that char. minassault was once good when it was the only self repping suit and shield tanking was the thing, i dont know why they have butchered the minmatars innate self rep for. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 238	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:02:00 - [30] - Quote Maybe the reason why you think logis are gone is because they're not showing up at the kill feed now and actually doing what they're supposed to be doing... Supporting. All the logis you see now are the true logis who heal, deploy ammo and uplinks, revive, etc. there's a reason why there are all of a suddenly more scouts and heavies, the slayer logis can't exploit and cheat lol. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.

RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 849	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:10:00 - [31] - Quote Why skill up medium suits if it's not clear wether they are going to change them in the near future or not? (read: CCP has no clue and is going to **** it up).
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 491	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:12:00 - [32] - Quote Minnie logi since day 1. Repsluts gonna repslut. Specced a bit into STD minnie light and heavy. Light minnie is THE best way to cover the map in allotek droplinks, 1k+ WP towards orbi for doing jack all. Heavy minnie with kincats out the ass is great for bumrushing points. TOLD514
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 673	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:36:00 - [33] - Quote RKKR wrote: Why skill up medium suits if it's not clear wether they are going to change them in the near future or not? (read: CCP has no clue and is going to ** it up). CCP already **** it up pretty bad. It would be hard, even for CCP, to make it worse. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
da master beta Kinsho Swords Caldari State 35	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:50:00 - [34] - Quote With fewer people spamming nanohives and uplinks, just means more points for the dedicated logi. I played a few games yesterday and was getting top 5 wp rankings based on logi skills alone. In one game, I got top 3 on my team with 1,000+ wp and had an 0:4 k/d ratio.
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 133	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:51:00 - [35] - Quote Still here...for now. My life expectancy in matches now seems to be measured in the seconds I could have repped them all too if it wasn't for you meddling scouts.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 286	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:51:00 - [36] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: as of yesterday heavy's dont need support std hmg is killing at 40+ meters with no logi support heavy's are running around the maps rearranging face with all the resist bonuses and extra HP while the lonely logi sits around the objective waiting for his love to come back Wow I hadn't put that together but you're right! It's not just scouts that are running off and breaking up squads. It's heavies now that are also running off with no regard for me. Minmatar and Caldari heavies are more mobile and shieldy so maybe they prefer running around to staying within rep tool range. As I see it they would benefit from repping as much as Amarr or Gallente though. It's making a bit more sense now, but it still sucks. Today and yesterday I keep trying my damndest to stick with a group and before I know it I'm all alone. Then I try to get to somewhere I can be useful and along the way I get sucker punched by a scout. I try not to be an a$$hole on comms telling squadmates I need them to work with me. Hasn't worked so far. Whatever. It's fine. (Punches hole in wall.) btw are you saying HMG has better range now or just that the new heavies can engage without support better due to their speed/shields/resists? 1.7 if I kept around 35m distance between a heavy I could take them on 1.8 im finding I have to be around 45-50m to engage Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
agent caron DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:16:00 - [37] - Quote I stuck to it, but I think that the bonuses are forceing you to spec into another races logi if you want to be effective. I think that after a few hotfixes that have been promised this will turn out well My recruiter link
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 255	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:19:00 - [38] - Quote I saw one running with some fat boys (Sents and Coms) and I stuck to their ass as I was a Cal Commado...I didn't lose many suits that game I was sticked,repped, and supplied. Im such a moocher.....
Type 2910 MK-II The United Peoples' Tactical Force 18	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:32:00 - [39] - Quote My logi can still "slay" but since I first began playing I have been a support logi that throws on damage mods so I can kill people before reviving someone and them getting killed on pick up
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1992	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:33:00 - [40] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: i cant hear you over how good i am at this game i is leet scout What was that about logis? Oh, you mean last build. Hah, some people are slow. Literally. And metaphorically. cloaks and leaves thread opens eyes Wait, what the hell? You mean, I can actually SEE you? :o



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