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Fusion Commander wrote:

InsidiousN wrote:

For anyone complaining about Scouts you can stop before you begin. The fact that Scouts are now able to take-over a match and that that surprises people, points to the fact of how incredibly underpowered Scouts have been for at least the past 8 months.

Us true Scouts are not FoTM hoppers and we have been grinding it out, trying to get by as Scouts for a long time, the hardships we have faced have sharpened our skills immensely. Those new players who have skilled into Scout suits since 1.8 because they are FoTM hoppers are not able to effectively use Scouts to dominate they are weak willed and poorly disciplined.

Now, with minimally balanced TTK and Scout suits that actually have enough slots, PG, and CPU to be able to be used effectively, us Scouts who have been hardened by our vastly underpowered state now have the ability to use the skills and intelligence we have developed to dominate.

A squad of well organized Scouts should be able to take over a match, just like any well organized squad can take over a match. For a very long time now no matter how great the squad of Scouts was, they would lose 100% of the time to a well organized squad of any other suit. Now that Scouts have a chance to dominate in their own unique way points to balance existing in DUST.

So your saying that since scouts were underpowered for 8 months (they really weren't) that justifies why they should be overpowered now and should stay that way, this logic makes no since to me, I've been running scout ever since I started this game and I have to admit the gal and cal scout are OP. Plus a sqaud of scouts shouldn't dominate a match that's just wrong


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Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 105	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:27:00 - [1] - Quote InsidiousN wrote: For anyone complaining about Scouts you can stop before you begin. The fact that Scouts are now able to take-over a match and that that surprises people, points to the fact of how incredibly underpowered Scouts have been for at least the past 8 months. Us true Scouts are not FoTM hoppers and we have been grinding it out, trying to get by as Scouts for a long time, the hardships we have faced have sharpened our skills immensely. Those new players who have skilled into Scout suits since 1.8 because they are FoTM hoppers are not able to effectively use Scouts to dominate they are weak willed and poorly disciplined. Now, with minimally balanced TTK and Scout suits that actually have enough slots, PG, and CPU to be able to be used effectively, us Scouts who have been hardened by our vastly underpowered state now have the ability to use the skills and intelligence we have developed to dominate. A squad of well organized Scouts should be able to take over a match, just like any well organized squad can take over a match. For a very long time now no matter how great the squad of Scouts was, they would lose 100% of the time to a well organized squad of any other suit. Now that Scouts have a chance to dominate in their own unique way points to balance existing in DUST. Shut up. Take your crutches off. You're just an idiot. I am a scout and I disapprove this message. 1.8 gave scouts 2 new excellent options, improved our current options by adding new slots (equipment plus hi or low slot). 1.7 wasn't a hard time for a scout, learn to play the role and you will excel. You're just a moron who thinks scouts should be the new Logi slayer when scouts in 1.7 could already dominate the match with a combination of kills, movement, and taking objectives. Scouts were given plenty in 1.8 without cloaks. How many times as a scout did you think you escaped a kill and died around the corner, now that won't happen. Scouts don't have a hard time taking down players, and now they can get away, no need for a cloak. There's no need for a cloak for a scout to excel. There's no reason for cloaks to be in the game period. If you can't play a scout properly then pick another class. If you want to be a slayer, run to the front lines and use your cloak to get a kill then you're not a scout.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 105	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:40:00 - [2] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Its these fake FOTM scouts with 500 armor thats the problem... The problem is not eHP built scouts, the problem are cloaks and how they change the need for any skill from the part of a scout. There is no need for positioning, flanking, stalking, they've taken the skill out of the scout class and all you bitches love it. Scouts get a major boost in 1.8 but cloaks should not have been included. There is no argument i have seen by any of my fellow scouts that shows the class needs a cloak. 1. Hacking - check around you before you hack. Objectives can be taken without a cloak, using a cloak to hack now requires little skill, no need to check surrounding, and lessens a scouts true abilities. 2. Counter to Heavies - again not true, a scout isn't the only counter to a heavy nor should a cloak be the counter. Idiots just think they should be able to take down a 1500 eHP class with a 250 eHP one. Scout can take down heavies without a cloak, it's about positioning and picking the right spot. Now, scouts can just run at them, its disgusting. A scout isn't a counter, teamwork and good gameplay are. Sure a scout has the ability to get around and attack from behind, but a cloak again is not required for this. Scouts aren't slayer logi's. They are a niche role which combines movement and skill to get kills, take objectives and create havoc on outlier enemies. 3. Scouts need it due to their low eHP - so wrong. Amarr and Cal scouts are great light infantry and are currently dominating due to their (as other scouts) ability to stack eHP and hide in the futon lines with a cloak. Cloaks don't add to the game, they subtract from it. They remove skillful play, they remove skillful positioning, and they are a crutch bad scout use because they think they should have a 6 k/d. Any scout who feels cloaks are helping them compete they need to get out of the scout class. Your crutch is ruining the game.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 105	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:41:00 - [3] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: InsidiousN wrote: For anyone complaining about Scouts you can stop before you begin. The fact that Scouts are now able to take-over a match and that that surprises people, points to the fact of how incredibly underpowered Scouts have been for at least the past 8 months. Us true Scouts are not FoTM hoppers and we have been grinding it out, trying to get by as Scouts for a long time, the hardships we have faced have sharpened our skills immensely. Those new players who have skilled into Scout suits since 1.8 because they are FoTM hoppers are not able to effectively use Scouts to dominate they are weak willed and poorly disciplined. Now, with minimally balanced TTK and Scout suits that actually have enough slots, PG, and CPU to be able to be used effectively, us Scouts who have been hardened by our vastly underpowered state now have the ability to use the skills and intelligence we have developed to dominate. A squad of well organized Scouts should be able to take over a match, just like any well organized squad can take over a match. For a very long time now no matter how great the squad of Scouts was, they would lose 100% of the time to a well organized squad of any other suit. Now that Scouts have a chance to dominate in their own unique way points to balance existing in DUST. So your saying that since scouts were underpowered for 8 months (they really weren't) that justifies why they should be overpowered now and should stay that way, this logic makes no since to me, I've been running scout ever since I started this game and I have to admit the gal and cal scout are OP. Plus a sqaud of scouts shouldn't dominate a match that's just wrong Scout got a significant boost in 1.8 - cloaks excluded. They just want scouts to be the new Logi slayer.