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Cannibus Lecktor
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:39:00 -
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I believe an easy fix for the tank spamming is very simple.. Raise the cost of them.. Put the cost of the hulls back up to 3mil and raise the cost of the turrets accordingly too. Hell if i can spawn into battle with a tank at less cost than my dropsuits, why would i even need dropsuits anymore. |
Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
447
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:56:00 -
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Cannibus Lecktor wrote: I believe an easy fix for the tank spamming is very simple.. Raise the cost of them.. Put the cost of the hulls back up to 3mil and raise the cost of the turrets accordingly too. Hell if i can spawn into battle with a tank at less cost than my dropsuits, why would i even need dropsuits anymore.
You are the stupidest human being alive. (no offence) But you deserve to be wooped. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:06:00 -
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Increase price or decrease (slightly) effectiveness. Either way works.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
626
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:16:00 -
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3mil just for the hulls? Are you out of your goddamn mind?
That's a great way to make sure only the richest corps and players can afford to run tanks.
Most non MLT tank fits cost anywhere from 250k to 500k.
Are you saying that your normal Dropsuit fittings cost more than that?
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Cannibus Lecktor
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:50:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: I believe an easy fix for the tank spamming is very simple.. Raise the cost of them.. Put the cost of the hulls back up to 3mil and raise the cost of the turrets accordingly too. Hell if i can spawn into battle with a tank at less cost than my dropsuits, why would i even need dropsuits anymore. You are the stupidest human being alive. (no offence) But you deserve to be wooped.
says the tank spammer that couldnt kill anyone with a rifle.. before 1.7 hulls were 3mil.. its a tank dumb@$$, and you think they should cost the same as a proto dropsuit setup... you're the idiot my friend... please tell me, what do you think a real life tank will run you? Use your head... It takes no skill to spam tanks against infantry.. |
Cannibus Lecktor
Stoned Kloned Killers
6
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:56:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:3mil just for the hulls? Are you out of your goddamn mind?
That's a great way to make sure only the richest corps and players can afford to run tanks.
Most non MLT tank fits cost anywhere from 250k to 500k.
Are you saying that your normal Dropsuit fittings cost more than that?
My proto siut cost damn near that much, and its no tank.. like i told the other guy, go out and price yourself a tank today, then keep in mind this game is based in ths future so when you factor in inflation...
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1141
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:58:00 -
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Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil.
They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8297
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:00:00 -
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Hell the **** no.
I like seeing tanks on the battlefield, just that their gun is a bit too effective.
Doesn't mean they should cost an arm and a leg, that just means their gun needs to be less effective 
That's like increasing the price of the Flaylock because it's overpowered. (Before the nerf)
My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone.
If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
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Cannibus Lecktor
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:14:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so.
maybe for militia but a proto tank im pretty sure were 1.3 mil with nothing on it |
Exergonic
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
335
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:24:00 -
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Cannibus Lecktor wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so. maybe for militia but a proto tank im pretty sure were 1.3 mil with nothing on it
You're talking about the worthless enforcer tanks when uprising dropped... which were adv tanks, not proto
My proto turret gunni costs just under 500k.... show me your proto suit that costs that and i may consider agreeing that our BASIC tank should cost more then that
And you know what... if they gave us a worth while ADV or even Proto tank (Dreams) ..I wouldn't mind paying over 2 mil per tank
Till then, Man up and tell your tankers to stop pulling out militia tanks |
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
990
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:31:00 -
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I hate tanks (most likely more than you) but 3mil is stupidly overpriced, also this has been discussed before and IIRC conclusion was that either raise the price (slightly) or decrease efficiency (slightly).
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1982
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:35:00 -
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Exergonic wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so. maybe for militia but a proto tank im pretty sure were 1.3 mil with nothing on it You're talking about the worthless enforcer tanks when uprising dropped... which were adv tanks, not proto My proto turret gunni costs just under 500k.... show me your proto suit that costs that and i may consider agreeing that our BASIC tank should cost more then that And you know what... if they gave us a worth while ADV or even Proto tank (Dreams) ..I wouldn't mind paying over 2 mil per tank Till then, Man up and tell your tankers to stop pulling out militia tanks
1: they were T II, not adv. There's never been a tiered HAV ingame.
2: There never should be. Tiercide.
3: OP, you're an idiot.
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Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Exergonic
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
336
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:40:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Exergonic wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so. maybe for militia but a proto tank im pretty sure were 1.3 mil with nothing on it You're talking about the worthless enforcer tanks when uprising dropped... which were adv tanks, not proto My proto turret gunni costs just under 500k.... show me your proto suit that costs that and i may consider agreeing that our BASIC tank should cost more then that And you know what... if they gave us a worth while ADV or even Proto tank (Dreams) ..I wouldn't mind paying over 2 mil per tank Till then, Man up and tell your tankers to stop pulling out militia tanks 1: they were T II, not adv. There's never been a tiered HAV ingame. 2: There never should be. Tiercide. 3: OP, you're an idiot.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:09:00 -
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A high price (but definitely not that high) would only be a good idea if Militia Tanks weren't so effective.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
370
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:22:00 -
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I say decrease tank EHP down to Chromosome levels, so plates and extenders actually are useful, and AV can deal with tanks without making AV so powerful that drop ships and LAVs are instakilled.
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
786
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:22:00 -
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Cannibus Lecktor wrote: I believe an easy fix for the tank spamming is very simple.. Raise the cost of them.. Put the cost of the hulls back up to 3mil and raise the cost of the turrets accordingly too. Hell if i can spawn into battle with a tank at less cost than my dropsuits, why would i even need dropsuits anymore.
I'm a tank driver that has advocated this in the past.
Previously, before 1.7, tanks were VERY expensive to run. Back then a LOT of people steered clear of tanks for just this simple reason. Tanks were considerably weaker back then, BUT, they were not all that bad. It took skill and planning to consistently run tanks every match.
With the new changes to tanks, they made them much stronger WHILE reducing the cost. Allowing a lot of people to easily enter into the field with one. Given the TTK among tanks themselves, this makes a lot of sense.
But don't misunderstand, tanks are still very expensive. My best fits, loaded with Pro mods and turrets, costs nearly 500k. When a double damage modded sica can 2 to 3 shot you, this can get very expensive in relation to the estimated cost of their tank, closer to 100k.
If there isn't going to be much separation between MLT tanks and PRO tanks, the costs need to reflect this. Namely the cost to fit a MLT tank needs to more closely match the cost of a SP invested tankers tank.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Jimmy McNaulty
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
76
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:44:00 -
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it should cost more to field a MLT tank... at the moment most people (I am guilty of this as well) will bring in a double dmg mod rail sica for 77K to take on other tanks.
I'm lvl 5 swarm prof 3 and the tank costs the same as my 1.7 build suit. It's just fiscally responsible to bring out the tank since I don't worry in the slightest about any small arms fire and can try and get the tank. I consider it a success even when we both die since I know their maddy/gunny fit was significantly more than my tank.
Tanking would be better served if the cost to bring in the lowest tier of tank cost around 150K. It's ridiculous that a lvl 2 LAV costs 49K for the hull and for 10K more I could have an HAV. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1911
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:47:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so.
Cheap were 500K for a solid fit, garbage was 200K. Top-fits were 800K-1.4M. Anyone nuts enough to run Enforcers could drive that up by another million.
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Speaking as someone who tanked until the very end of 1.6
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
377
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Posted - 2014.04.12 20:51:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so.
Umm, while the hulls were 200K ISK, yes, the proto turrets were over 900K ISK each, and my fully fitted maddy cost 1.3-1.5M ISK and my fully fitted Falchion that required LLAV support cost 2.8M ISK and the LLAV was 300K ISK.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
790
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Posted - 2014.04.12 21:07:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Cannibus Lecktor wrote: before 1.7 hulls were 3mil. They were actually 200,000 isk. Fully fit they were about 500k. Prototype turrets could push them to 800k or so. Umm, while the hulls were 200K ISK, yes, the proto turrets were over 900K ISK each, and my fully fitted maddy cost 1.3-1.5M ISK and my fully fitted Falchion that required LLAV support cost 2.8M ISK and the LLAV was 300K ISK.
Totally correct!
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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