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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:54:00 -
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So today I was shooting at this cloaked enemy and noticed that hitting them didn't deactivate their cloak. In fact they only de-cloaked after I killed em'.
So the point I'm getting at is, are cloaks working as intended and if so, should they not deactivate after getting hit?
Please discuss. 
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4610
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:57:00 -
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Yes they're working as intended.
No you shouldn't decloak someone when you shoot them.
You can see them well enough without needing them to decloak. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2738
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:10:00 -
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You still get shield flair and hit markers and that blueoutline so its fine, looking forword to deadacated stealth hunters tbh
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
256
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:16:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:You still get shield flair and hit markers and that blueoutline so its fine, looking forword to deadacated stealth hunters tbh
Queue the angry gall scanner logis wiht proto scanners and a ton of EHP 
Death to almost all cloaked scouts.... except gall scouts ofcourse the real ninjas can't be detected  |
Retarn Dominus
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
43
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:17:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Yes they're working as intended.
No you shouldn't decloak someone when you shoot them.
You can see them well enough without needing them to decloak.
Yep i found this out yesterday when i was pushing the boundries of what i can and cannot do with the cloak. Man, i died soooo many times
What? You think your Complex armour plating on your sweet Proto will save you? Think again BOOM
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2157
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:21:00 -
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I was on the fence with this but the more I played the more I like that they don't decloak. They sacrificed something to fit that cloak and a stray round shouldn't decloak them. I had a running battle under the mushroom building with a scout and he would have died quick if his cloak wasn't on. I thought he jumped off but in fact he just stood still in the shadows. He decloaked and dropped me, luckily my mate with a needle brought me back and we killed the scout. It was very fun and I enjoyed dieing to him and for that reason alone I don't think they should be decloaked by damage.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:36:00 -
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I hope they will add a damage threshold, beyond that you will decloak, lose the cloak for a vagrant bullet would not be funny.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
309
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:39:00 -
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I can see how they programed this to allow firing while cloaking. You can totally see most scouts in this game. Plus once the cloak is below 50% you can't recloak and are easily killed.
Still, we have players that are really good so the firing while cloaked isn't needed for them.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Ivan Avogadro
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
912
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:41:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I hope they will add a damage threshold, beyond that you will decloak, lose the cloak for a vagrant bullet would not be funny.
Naw. 99% of cloak users are scouts anyway, with a ton of fitting just in the cloak. if you start damaging them they are halfway dead already. Not like they can fight you back while cloaked, they have no guns in that mode. I killed at least 2 people while invisible last night, and I was killed several times myself while my cloak was running. Just get used to watching for blue flare and you'll do fine.
Hail Bacon
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:50:00 -
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Ivan Avogadro wrote:shaman oga wrote:I hope they will add a damage threshold, beyond that you will decloak, lose the cloak for a vagrant bullet would not be funny. Naw. 99% of cloak users are scouts anyway, with a ton of fitting just in the cloak. if you start damaging them they are halfway dead already. Not like they can fight you back while cloaked, they have no guns in that mode. I killed at least 2 people while invisible last night, and I was killed several times myself while my cloak was running. Just get used to watching for blue flare and you'll do fine.
I have a 650 eHP scout fit able to cloak, i'm not so low on HP, (with that fit) but generally yes, if they shoot to a scout he is halfway dead.
But i still think that after a certain % of damage you should decloak.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2567
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:50:00 -
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Ive got used to it to shot half my HMG clip down a corridor when i see that shimmer of a cloak. Works for me so far. The new survival rule number 1: if encountering something unknown, first shot and ask questions later.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2164
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:15:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Ive got used to it to shot half my HMG clip down a corridor when i see that shimmer of a cloak. Works for me so far. The new survival rule number 1: if encountering something unknown, first shot and ask questions later.
We have a winner. I like your counter and will pass on this knowledge.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Sam Booty
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
61
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:32:00 -
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Just fire at will. Where is Will? |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:33:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Ive got used to it to shot half my HMG clip down a corridor when i see that shimmer of a cloak. Works for me so far. The new survival rule number 1: if encountering something unknown, first shot and ask questions later. We have a winner. I like your counter and will pass on this knowledge.
Plagiarized! Well as an Amarr I can say "Kill them all and let God sort them out". Was pretty sure it was both an modern era quote taken from also a 12/13th century quote...But to get back on topic I've been seeing more ppl tossing flux grenades in objectives and more than usual since the new patch. More like I've seen 4x the number of flux grenade users in matches last night for me. What I don't know is, does hitting someone with flux decloak them as well because it actually makes sense to do so since it is a flux grenade and they knock out equipment so why not a cloak? |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:35:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Ive got used to it to shot half my HMG clip down a corridor when i see that shimmer of a cloak. Works for me so far. The new survival rule number 1: if encountering something unknown, first shot and ask questions later. We have a winner. I like your counter and will pass on this knowledge.
I prefer splash damage from the mass driver cause scouts cannot evade it with their speed |
The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2169
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:41:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Ive got used to it to shot half my HMG clip down a corridor when i see that shimmer of a cloak. Works for me so far. The new survival rule number 1: if encountering something unknown, first shot and ask questions later. We have a winner. I like your counter and will pass on this knowledge. Plagiarized! Well as an Amarr I can say "Kill them all and let God sort them out". Was pretty sure it was both an modern era quote taken from also a 12/13th century quote...But to get back on topic I've been seeing more ppl tossing flux grenades in objectives and more than usual since the new patch. More like I've seen 4x the number of flux grenade users in matches last night for me. What I don't know is, does hitting someone with flux decloak them as well because it actually makes sense to do so since it is a flux grenade and they knock out equipment so why not a cloak?
From a real world perspective an EMP only really works on unshielded electronics. Without a proper physical shield to route the EMP to ground all electronics fry, that would go for dropsuits as a whole and not just the shield that protects armor. A piece of equipment thrown on the ground may be missing a robust physical shield.
Other than that I am not too sure.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
525
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:24:00 -
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It's better this way, they can't shoot back, it buys you time to finish the kill
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2739
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:04:00 -
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So into thin air long enough and u will hit a scout.
Old planetside saying :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
192
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:17:00 -
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I run ck.0 scout with 616hp, adv. cloak, RE proto magsec + STD magsec. good fit to defend the letter. But still I'm a ck.0 logistic with hives. I try learn to use proto RR also because CR is OP.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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