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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:02:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:So nerf heavies because you're a scrub and can't do better than 47/14 including OB kills? **** that. We had a PERFECT TEAM in that PC. Our dropship just flipped because we had to pick up a stray squad member (which we shouldn't have done) EVEN IF WE GOT TO THE POINT FIRST like we should have done, THEY WOULD HAVE STILL SLAUGHTERED US.
Low ground CQC is dominated by heavies. They spammed heavies because you wouldn't use the counter, which is high ground with mass driver spam. I assume you were on a cargo hub.
If you were on a production facility, you have no excuse because heavies are worthless outside of the computer room. High ground saucer overwatch destroys them.
If you were on a surface research lab, you also have no excuse. Underground point is dominated by overwatch in several areas and is open to orbital bombardment. High ground point has several angles to flank from, as well as a higher-ground landing pad atop the bridge that can effectively be used to out-range and destroy any heavies on point defense.
So basically, your "perfect team" got outplayed. Having better gungame is not the answer to every situation. |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:36:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I am enjoying being OP while it lasts, but yeah, the 20% HP nerf is needed, due to our increased effective health from all the resists.
You only have 10% to 15% more HP against guns than you did in 1.7 good sir.
Taking away 20% is effectively making you WEAKER than you were in 1.7.
You're actually gonna be ok with that? |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:13:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:I am enjoying being OP while it lasts, but yeah, the 20% HP nerf is needed, due to our increased effective health from all the resists. You only have 10% to 15% more HP against guns than you did in 1.7 good sir. Taking away 20% is effectively making you WEAKER than you were in 1.7. You're actually gonna be ok with that? No because the rifles all got a small nerf. This is just like the tanks vs AV problem. You weaken the counter, but buff the suit/tank and it's too much.
Rifles aren't the counter, though. Not unless they are at range or on high ground, in which case the heavy is entirely defenseless anyway.
HMG is supposed to beat them head to head, and it's going just that because the suit can soak up a lot of damage and the HMG can rip people apart.
Walk about twenty feet back, or elevate yourself five feet up, and the entire situation changes. How is that already not balanced? I am willing to admit that most people are too stupid to actually play in an intelligent manner and counter the heavy suit accordingly, but should balance changes really be made based on general player stupidity instead of what is actually possible to do? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:17:00 -
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Cloaking is a joke. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:27:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Their HP is fine but they can react extremely quick, jump turn slaughter, and their damage is 50% higher than any other.
Their HP should remain high, but their turn speed and HMG damage should be reduced.
In head-to-head fights, bigger is supposed to be better. There is not supposed to be a balance here. Bigger IS better, period. If it wasn't, there would be no reason for bigger to exist in the first place.
To get around this, you apply the use of personal intelligence to create a situation that is more favorable for lighter frames. A lighter frame can move faster, which gives it the ability to flank when a bigger foe is distracted, or seek high ground where the larger foe simply cannot follow or return fire effectively.
Every suit has its strength. The heavy suit is the king of direct combat, and it should never be balanced in this regard. It is meant to dominate, and it should dominate. If you want to kill a heavy, you already have all of the tools necessary at your disposal. There is no need to nerf it. |
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