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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1712	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:55:00 - [1] - Quote To be honest, I see no real benefit to using them. After playing as a profile dampened MinLogi for the last half year, I've grown accustomed to flanking and staying away from the view of my opponents. Cloaks do not supplement this style of play for me. Although I have only skilled into the STD version, I noticed that I had no real use for it during the matches I played. To me, they're nothing but a waste of CPU/PG. In fact, the only instance I can think of that made me say, "Hey, these are not so bad," is when I needed to retreat into cover to passively regen my armor. Cloaking is indeed an interesting aspect to combat, but I rather use my equipment slots on things that will help my team win. Uplinks have proven to be more useful for my type of play, and so I will stick with them.
Adell Shinzumakami 60 Revolutions 2	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:08:00 - [2] - Quote I think they make great quick escapes or objective flanks. Though I do hate seeing someone "Camp" somewhere with cloak behind something.... waiting...
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2156	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:10:00 - [3] - Quote Same here, I like the way they are but I don't intend to use them or even skill into them. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:11:00 - [4] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: To be honest, I see no real benefit to using them. After playing as a profile dampened MinLogi for the last half year, I've grown accustomed to flanking and staying away from the view of my opponents. Cloaks do not supplement this style of play for me. Although I have only skilled into the STD version, I noticed that I had no real use for it during the matches I played. To me, they're nothing but a waste of CPU/PG. In fact, the only instance I can think of that made me say, "Hey, these are not so bad," is when I needed to retreat into cover to passively regen my armor. Cloaking is indeed an interesting aspect to combat, but I rather use my equipment slots on things that will help my team win. Uplinks have proven to be more useful for my type of play, and so I will stick with them. I haven't quite made up my mind. On the one hand cloak is really ******* cool. I love everything about it...especially how you can't hear the world around you--it feels like the trade offs are fair. I mean, a cloaked scout probably wouldn't even hear if you Magseced a couple of his local friends, that thing's quiet and will be getting a silencer at some point (according to the blog). On the other hand it was easy to be invisible pre 1.8 and I'm kinda getting this 'novelty' feeling from cloaks. I dunno...The draw backs from using them in CQC is that you can't hear what's happening around, make a noise when you decloak and are more likely to have your shimmer seen...but you can arm up and unload really easily...haha yeah it's going to take me a while to figure it out but I know eventually it's application will fall nicely into place within my play style...tis a great infiltrator piece of equipment and nicely augments the badassery of knife damage, hackspeed and amazing stamina regen. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 180	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'm not going to use it for that same reason your not. Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker. You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 853	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:37:00 - [6] - Quote Standard Cloak sucks... Advanced is much better. 1 minute of sitting silently waiting for someone to come and hack an objective then blow their brains out with the shotgun from point blank... ahhh... silently cloak again and await the next victim bwhahahahahahaha Also being able to avoid tank spam with them is invaluable to me.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1714	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:14:00 - [7] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Standard Cloak sucks... Advanced is much better. 1 minute of sitting silently waiting for someone to come and hack an objective then blow their brains out with the shotgun from point blank... ahhh... silently cloak again and await the next victim bwhahahahahahaha Also being able to avoid tank spam with them is invaluable to me. It's not the duration of the cloak that I'm concerned with, but its application. My style of play revolves around being mobile and and untraceable. I do this already by use of complex profile damps, kincats, and regulators. I don't need a cloak to steathily blast someone's face off.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:16:00 - [8] - Quote i will not use them on my commando char u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 630	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:21:00 - [9] - Quote Mk/b user: Not using simply because it forces more use of the radial menu, which is atrocious. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:37:00 - [10] - Quote Cloaks are superior. They not only gives free -25% to scan profile, but also gives you ability to sneak behind enemies and flank them. (Also sneak, decloak and make them run towards you, cloak and put remotes to where they come from...wait for it..r1..+50,+50)

Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 542	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:38:00 - [11] - Quote I just use it to turn off the enemy's aim assist - ironically, that means only turning it on when I'm already under fire "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Rusty Shallows 1261	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:42:00 - [12] - Quote Can't with the Sentinel and unlikely on the Combat Engineer. My Minja will definitely use a cloak. Died one too many times crossing what seemed short enough danger zones. Besides he only uses Nova Knives right now. I haven't even trained him on Remote Explosives in case CCP goes on an extended nerfing spree and Scouts lose the second Equipment slot. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. BwaHahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:44:00 - [13] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: I just use it to turn off the enemy's aim assist - ironically, that means only turning it on when I'm already under fire AA doesnt work on cloaked scout?
Adam Taurus Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:47:00 - [14] - Quote Usefull to hunt Full-proto in Ambsuh... Hello, world!
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 390	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:48:00 - [15] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: BARDAS wrote: Standard Cloak sucks... Advanced is much better. 1 minute of sitting silently waiting for someone to come and hack an objective then blow their brains out with the shotgun from point blank... ahhh... silently cloak again and await the next victim bwhahahahahahaha Also being able to avoid tank spam with them is invaluable to me. It's not the duration of the cloak that I'm concerned with, but its application. My style of play revolves around being mobile and and untraceable. I do this already by use of complex profile damps, kincats, and regulators. I don't need a cloak to steathily blast someone's face off. ADV Gallente Scout: 1x Advanced Precision Enhancers 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Complex Kincat 1x Complex Damp 1x Complex Range Extender 1x Adv Cloak CRG Shotty Flux Grenades My ADV eWAR scout I tested out tonight. It worked better than my 500 - 600+ eHP Armor tanked scout I ran earlier. For applications I use Cloak to ambush, avoid groups(as I can see everyone while being completely invisible already due to Damp, Extender, and Precision Enhancer), stalk single or double targets. Really its best application is just to be patient and wait just off high traffic areas where a lone wolf or small group might go. Makes it super easy to run in and hack an enemy CRU also as they don't even know its hacked until it switches color.
Emerald Bellerophon Nenikekamen 114	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:10:00 - [16] - Quote I'll admit: I'm a dweeb. Not only have I played EVE off-and-on since 2005, but I'm now re-playing Star Trek: Klingon academy from 14 years ago. I've used cloaking technology very much to my advantage, but since I've been resisting (and opposing!) its introduction into this game as well, I can't conjure enough faith even to try it out in this game. I'll have to be persuaded that it's something also not worth trying before I consider playing this game again while it's included.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4600	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:20:00 - [17] - Quote For the record, "camping" valuable objectives or points which you know the enemy will want to control is actually called "defending". Cloaking while staying near an important objective is a viable approach to an objective-based game mode. Not so much in Ambush, of course. Personally, I'm a fan of the idea of cloaks, and I think they've been implemented pretty well from what little I've seen so far (haven't had a lot of playtime in 1.8 yet). They're a good concept, and the main "problems" I've seen people complain about are the things I expected complaints about even if the cloak is well-implemented. People will get used to them, and get used to countering them, and all will be well.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 830	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:41:00 - [18] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: To be honest, I see no real benefit to using them. After playing as a profile dampened MinLogi for the last half year, I've grown accustomed to flanking and staying away from the view of my opponents. Cloaks do not supplement this style of play for me. Although I have only skilled into the STD version, I noticed that I had no real use for it during the matches I played. To me, they're nothing but a waste of CPU/PG. In fact, the only instance I can think of that made me say, "Hey, these are not so bad," is when I needed to retreat into cover to passively regen my armor. Cloaking is indeed an interesting aspect to combat, but I rather use my equipment slots on things that will help my team win. Uplinks have proven to be more useful for my type of play, and so I will stick with them. I have not finally decided on what to do with the cloak, although I have immediately maxxed it (but don't think I will need a proto cloak ) I got mixed results in some cases cloak was useful but in some cases not. can help tremendous when you flank and its useful against noobs. Against players with situational awareness you pretty much screwed. So before I make my final judgement I will have to do further testing with all the new stuff and changes it will take a while till I found my new way of doing things.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1720	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:05:00 - [19] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: For applications use Cloak to ambush, avoid groups(as I can see everyone while being completely invisible already due to Damp, Extender, and Precision Enhancer), stalk single or double targets. Really its best application is just to be patient and wait just off high traffic areas where a lone wolf or small group might go. Makes it super easy to run in and hack an enemy CRU also as they don't even know its hacked until it switches color. I already do all of this without cloaks, and I don't have to be patient and wait. I rush in, kill reds and run off into the sunset to see another day.
Patrick57 6172	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:20:00 - [20] - Quote I will use Cloaks, as I am a FotM chasing scrub. Except I'm not in Nyain San and choose not to Protostomp most of the time.

Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1131	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:22:00 - [21] - Quote I'll give them a shot (still haven't played yet :( ), but I see RE/ nanohive combo being more useful. Me in my ADS: 1,2
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1722	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:30:00 - [22] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: I'll give them a shot (still haven't played yet :( ), but I see RE/ nanohive combo being more useful. If you played as a Scout pre 1.8, you really won't need to use a cloak, but I have to admit, they're pretty cool.
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 118	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:36:00 - [23] - Quote LMAO! You guys don't know what you are missing. I am against cloaks but feel the need to abuse the fk out of them. I have killed like 20 tanks solo using cloaks and re's. They never see you coming. I just jump on the roof and go for a ride when he tries to run. After I attach six, BOOOOOOOM. Cloaks are also great for sneaking up behind snipers. Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Yan Darn Science For Death 403	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:07:00 - [24] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: I'll give them a shot (still haven't played yet :( ), but I see RE/ nanohive combo being more useful. If you played as a Scout pre 1.8, you really won't need to use a cloak, but I have to admit, they're pretty cool. There is a difference between using cloaks as a crutch to your (lack) of scouting ability and learning to use it as a tool to enhance your scouting ability. If you believe that the only reason cloaks exist is for the former than obviously the cloak will be useless for any half decent scout with pre-1.8 experience. Half the value of the cloak is freeing up a low slot from a complex damp. Hacking CRUs and make it less likely that a distracted enemy will start pinging you out in the relative open are the only other uses I've found so far. Cloak camping objectives is a weird concept though - like a complete waste of cloak energy unless you have no damps to avoid scanners. While I'd much prefer the scout bonus wasn't tied in to this single, variationless piece of a equipment, I'm not ready to completely dismiss it as a crutch or a gimmick. As someone who never played logi though - I now fully empathise with this equipment wheel silliness... The Ghost of Bravo
Duke Noobiam Who Remains 43	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:30:00 - [25] - Quote I'm going to wait and see before I use it. Right now I have no interest. So far, here is what I have experienced on the battle field concerning the cloak... 1. I've been killed (a few times) by a scout running a cloak and shotgun. I was surprised that the "cloaker" was able to switch to his shotgun and get a shot off as he was de-cloaking. From what I read, I thought he would be visible the instant he switched to a weapon. 2. I've killed 3 cloaked players so far, two were running and shimmering and one was standing still and invisible, quite satisfying. I'm curious to see how frequently cloaking will be used in a few months... When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 265	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:31:00 - [26] - Quote Cloaking is for chickens!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1920	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:32:00 - [27] - Quote I usually put 2 complex armor plates in my equipment slots. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1238	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:32:00 - [28] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: To be honest, I see no real benefit to using them. After playing as a profile dampened MinLogi for the last half year, I've grown accustomed to flanking and staying away from the view of my opponents. Cloaks do not supplement this style of play for me. Although I have only skilled into the STD version, I noticed that I had no real use for it during the matches I played. To me, they're nothing but a waste of CPU/PG. In fact, the only instance I can think of that made me say, "Hey, these are not so bad," is when I needed to retreat into cover to passively regen my armor. Cloaking is indeed an interesting aspect to combat, but I rather use my equipment slots on things that will help my team win. Uplinks have proven to be more useful for my type of play, and so I will stick with them. Good for you
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4634	Posted - 2014.03.28 04:37:00 - [29] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: While I'd much prefer the scout bonus wasn't tied in to this single, variationless piece of a equipment, I'm not ready to completely dismiss it as a crutch or a gimmick. Fortunately, that ISN'T the only use for a Scout... Plenty of other options out there. Like bringing Nanohives (or Uplinks) and a Repair Tool.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 822	Posted - 2014.03.28 04:39:00 - [30] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: I think they make great quick escapes or objective flanks. Though I do hate seeing someone "Camp" somewhere with cloak behind something.... waiting... Try sniping ... Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper

Lightning Bolt2 Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives 415	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:04:00 - [31] - Quote I'm a maxed scout who won't use cloak. (your obvious with any movement) really CCP, I'm seeing cloaked scouts everywhere... they're not invis.


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