DUST Search - Tiericide

DiablosMajora wrote:

General12912 wrote:

DiablosMajora wrote:

I'm not sure why this game was originally built with tiers, but this is getting out of hand.
Without at least some way to properly segment and separate the people who are using different tiers of fits, being pitched up against wave after wave of proto-anything and their ridiculous dps/tank/etc is just not good design.

My suggestions:
1) Begin implementing tiericide, ruthlessly, in every aspect. This fulfills the original design of getting things into *roles*.

2) Properly implement way to segment the population so - MLT faces MLT, Basic v Basic, Adv v Adv, and Proto v Proto.

I'd be more in favor of suggestion 1, as it solves more problems and is more comprehensive for the future as well.

tiers is what makes this game stand out to me from other FPS games.

this isnt EVE, where everything is indirect, stat-based action anyways. the ability to directly control your character makes it possible to kill higher tiers. and then you have the fact that if everything was the same tier, then BPO's would be OP.

what do you mean BPOs would be OP?
tiers is what is ruining this game for me. why have two completely different doctrines for the way both games set in the same universe are played? you have a concept that works in EVE, why wouldn't it work just as well in DUST? never mind that EVE gameplay is overall slower, but if you have a defined role to excel at why is that a bad thing?
"silly player, why would you bother shooting an ADV shotty in my face a couple of times? I'm a proto sentinel with proto plates ;)))) have some proto hmg!"


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General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 144	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:15:00 - [1] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: I'm not sure why this game was originally built with tiers, but this is getting out of hand. Without at least some way to properly segment and separate the people who are using different tiers of fits, being pitched up against wave after wave of proto-anything and their ridiculous dps/tank/etc is just not good design. My suggestions: 1) Begin implementing tiericide, ruthlessly, in every aspect. This fulfills the original design of getting things into roles. 2) Properly implement way to segment the population so - MLT faces MLT, Basic v Basic, Adv v Adv, and Proto v Proto. I'd be more in favor of suggestion 1, as it solves more problems and is more comprehensive for the future as well. tiers is what makes this game stand out to me from other FPS games. this isnt EVE, where everything is indirect, stat-based action anyways. the ability to directly control your character makes it possible to kill higher tiers. and then you have the fact that if everything was the same tier, then BPO's would be OP. Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 145	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:00:00 - [2] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: General12912 wrote: DiablosMajora wrote: I'm not sure why this game was originally built with tiers, but this is getting out of hand. Without at least some way to properly segment and separate the people who are using different tiers of fits, being pitched up against wave after wave of proto-anything and their ridiculous dps/tank/etc is just not good design. My suggestions: 1) Begin implementing tiericide, ruthlessly, in every aspect. This fulfills the original design of getting things into roles. 2) Properly implement way to segment the population so - MLT faces MLT, Basic v Basic, Adv v Adv, and Proto v Proto. I'd be more in favor of suggestion 1, as it solves more problems and is more comprehensive for the future as well. tiers is what makes this game stand out to me from other FPS games. this isnt EVE, where everything is indirect, stat-based action anyways. the ability to directly control your character makes it possible to kill higher tiers. and then you have the fact that if everything was the same tier, then BPO's would be OP. what do you mean BPOs would be OP? tiers is what is ruining this game for me. why have two completely different doctrines for the way both games set in the same universe are played? you have a concept that works in EVE, why wouldn't it work just as well in DUST? never mind that EVE gameplay is overall slower, but if you have a defined role to excel at why is that a bad thing? "silly player, why would you bother shooting an ADV shotty in my face a couple of times? I'm a proto sentinel with proto plates ;)))) have some proto hmg!" because there already is a way to excel in roles. its called tiers. and BPO's would be OP because every tier would be the same. Bpo's are already in that tier, so instead of the BPO being a free standard suit, it will be a free suit period. an infinite supply of the best level suit available. Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.