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darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:03:00 -
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The there is to much shiver, anyone can easily see a suit moving with a cloak
Even when your standing still, if your near a wall you can see the suit.
Stop QQ, the cloak needs a buff
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:05:00 -
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I agree, but cloaks really don't need a buff.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
372
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:05:00 -
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No. I think it's important that it makes you move slow when people are near, and fast when no one's around.
When I kill you with a basic cloak on a Dragonfly that can only fit a Toxin with it, you'll realize you're wrong.
I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1116
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:06:00 -
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Your grammar needs a buff.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:06:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:The there is to much shiver, anyone can easily see a suit moving with a cloak
Even when your standing still, if your near a wall you can see the suit.
Stop QQ, the cloak needs a buff
A buff? All of that was described about cloaks before 1.8...
Besides that, I haven't played but the argument is about how well people can see. From the video I saw it's fairly easy to see scouts...Especially if you're up close.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:07:00 -
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99% of my deaths today have been to cloaked scouts...so you can tell what my opinion on the matter is
I will logi the s* out of you
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1908
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:08:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Your grammar needs a buff.
I was about to post the exact same thing. |
Th3 Hunt3d
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:09:00 -
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Honestly I feel like I am more visible when I am cloaked an moving even the the slightest amount, I'm like a bright blue neon shoot me sign |
darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:10:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:99% of my deaths today have been to cloaked scouts...so you can tell what my opinion on the matter is
Open your eyes youl see them
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Slen Kaleth
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
118
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:12:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:No. I think it's important that it makes you move slow when people are near, and fast when no one's around.
When I kill you with a basic cloak on a Dragonfly that can only fit a Toxin with it, you'll realize you're wrong.
Agree, but it looks like right now there is only no shiver and full shiver regardless if running, walking, or crouch walking. I think that needs to be changed. And have the shiver based on actual speed. This. Is only based on what I've seen of my scouts model while using cloak. |
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
248
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:13:00 -
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Th3 Hunt3d wrote:Honestly I feel like I am more visible when I am cloaked an moving even the the slightest amount, I'm like a bright blue neon shoot me sign
Yes, yes you are. ESPECIALLY if you are in a shadow.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
778
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:15:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:99% of my deaths today have been to cloaked scouts...so you can tell what my opinion on the matter is
A majority of my deaths have been while cloaked. Maybe you should ask these other guys for advice.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
996
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:17:00 -
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They need to reduce shimmer when moving slow, but it's fine while moving fast. Perhaps have the cloak skill reduce shimmer by X% per level. Or have crouching give a bonus to shimmer, so crouching reduces shimmer while moving at comparable speeds (moving at X speed while crouching produces less shimmer than standing up moving at X speed.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I agree, but cloaks really don't need a buff.
Slight visibility reduxtion when walking.....as its a 5ad vit too visable atm, I rarely dont see cloaked people...
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Slen Kaleth
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
118
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:17:00 -
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Lv2spd2 wrote:Th3 Hunt3d wrote:Honestly I feel like I am more visible when I am cloaked an moving even the the slightest amount, I'm like a bright blue neon shoot me sign Yes, yes you are. ESPECIALLY if you are in a shadow.
Yes, maybe change the blue shiver to just a level of visibility? |
General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
135
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:20:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:No. I think it's important that it makes you move slow when people are near, and fast when no one's around.
When I kill you with a basic cloak on a Dragonfly that can only fit a Toxin with it, you'll realize you're wrong.
your arent prototype scut are you? i can fit a basic cloaking device, CRG-3 shotgun, 'Toxin' ICD-9 SMG, and fill my all my module slots and grenade slot with enhanced stuff.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:20:00 -
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They're
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:21:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Your grammar needs a buff. I was about to post the exact same thing.
I should really read some before reflex posting.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
89
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:22:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:The there is to much shiver, anyone can easily see a suit moving with a cloak
Even when your standing still, if your near a wall you can see the suit.
Stop QQ, the cloak needs a buff
Regardless if you feel cloaks are UP or its less than expected, the truth is scout did not need them.
They have no business in the game to begin with and it is a serious flaw.
Those who say scouts needed a boost, they got a boost with new slots and extra equipment slot. There's no reason to have a bunch of idiots running around in capes. There's no reason to have them, scouts use them as a crutch because most scouts are utter garbage. Those who were good to great scouts before will continue to be that if capes weren't here.
A scout is about positional play, flank, attack, retreat...etc. it's not about running to the front lines and hiding until someone walks close to you. That is garbage. This capes thing is bullshit, i know i am a scout myself and i hate cloaks. Just a crutch, just will be abused.
Why do scouts need to hide while hacking? If you can't hack properly then don't hack, but you shouldn't require a cloak so thst you can hack. Same goes for flanking or running in open spaces, CRUTCH. Learn how to play, how to move about the maps, learn where to flank and how to avoid an enemy until the time is right and you have an advantage.
Nothing but morons saying capes are a good idea, they are not. They ruin any resemblance of the role and incorporate guys who want to be assault types into a role they shouldn't be in. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7641
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:28:00 -
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I noticed that the shimmer is not so apparent, in fact almost non-existent, when running across an open field in a bright sunny day. Of course, if the day happens to be cloudy or it's night time or you're in the shade, the shimmer becomes apparent. Cloak responsibly.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
682
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:40:00 -
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The cloak was never intended to grant full invisibility. It is designed as a "screen" of sorts that enhances your chance of survival by making you not overly visible while running near or past an enemy. Certainly not as visible as pre-1.8 Scouts.
TLDR--the cloak is a tool. Use it how you should and stop QQing.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1033
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:41:00 -
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I almost managed to sneak up on a guy when cloaked. The I died 7 times, moving as well as standing still while cloaked.
It was fun. But I'm sure I just suck badly. Or I'm visible...
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