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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4771	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:06:00 - [1] - Quote Kind of feel they're a certain type of useless that most things just can't compare to. In just about any situation you could melee, it is almost always better to shoot your gun. CCP already got rid of the Minmatar Scout melee bonus, after realizing how dumb it was. I think that Myofibril Stimulants should be next on the chopping block, so the Minmatar can get a biotic mod that is actually useful. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Nocturnal Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2484	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:09:00 - [2] - Quote You run out of ammo for your Lr and the only thing you can do is melee... I've killed 10 matar scum like this already. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2570	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:10:00 - [3] - Quote Nope, I have a use for those in 1.8 Also the Minja bonus was built into the base melee damage of the suit, it was not eliminated KRRROOOOOOM
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4772	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:11:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: You run out of ammo for your Lr and the only thing you can do is melee... I've killed 10 matar scum like this already. So you'd rather waste a slot on a myofibril stimulant, rather than a shield extender and sidearm? Seems legit. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 597	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:11:00 - [5] - Quote Shut the ** up. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/468/519 FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**
mollerz 2862	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:13:00 - [6] - Quote If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3678	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:13:00 - [7] - Quote Melee has always been my last option on offense. If I run out of ammo and there's no way for me to get some, I will just suicide than run around looking to melee people. The MS module will never be used by me. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 393	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:15:00 - [8] - Quote someone made an awesome post in the feedback section, about how to improve these by adding movement speed bonuses, I think it was. ill have to dig it up. they should really never remove any content just improve stuff that's UP or broken.
Nocturnal Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2484	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:17:00 - [9] - Quote Its just fun for lol fits Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4772	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:18:00 - [10] - Quote mollerz wrote: If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives Don't NK's do more damage per hit than 318? Seems kind of redundant. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4772	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:19:00 - [11] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: someone made an awesome post in the feedback section, about how to improve these by adding movement speed bonuses, I think it was. ill have to dig it up. they should really never remove any content just improve stuff that's UP or broken. I've made like 5 threads about that subject (not my idea though). People didn't really care. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
mollerz 2864	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:27:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives Don't NK's do more damage per hit than 318? Seems kind of redundant. So far a melee attack has an assist built in akin to auto aim. So ther eis that oasis in a lost cause knife fail attack. It may be the best possibly CQC attack from a cloaked state. Knife slashing coupled with melee attacks can sometimes be a better approach than repeatedly slashing. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13671	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:29:00 - [13] - Quote Killed quite a few who got too close to my amarr heavy for me to knock their heads off. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4773	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:31:00 - [14] - Quote mollerz wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives Don't NK's do more damage per hit than 318? Seems kind of redundant. So far a melee attack has an assist built in akin to auto aim. So ther eis that oasis in a lost cause knife fail attack. It may be the best possibly CQC attack from a cloaked state. Knife slashing coupled with melee attacks can sometimes be a better approach than repeatedly slashing. Think about this. Every fight I've lost to you (in melee combat) was when I was running Complex myofibril stimulants, and haven't even been able to land a hit on you. In the fights I've won, I was actually using Nova Knives. I just want you to think about that. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
mollerz 2864	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:33:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed quite a few who got too close to my amarr heavy for me to knock their heads off. I've knocked many heavies heads off with my wee minja. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 468	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:34:00 - [16] - Quote http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/2093 You may want to rethink that. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 393	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:35:00 - [17] - Quote mollerz wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives Don't NK's do more damage per hit than 318? Seems kind of redundant. So far a melee attack has an assist built in akin to auto aim. So there is that oasis in a lost cause knife fail attack. It may be the best possibly CQC attack from a cloaked state. Knife slashing coupled with melee attacks can sometimes be a better approach than repeatedly slashing. Yep. Depends on wether melee works while cloaked. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. There is no them, only us. [Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
Tectonic Fusion 1299	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:38:00 - [18] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Shut the ** up. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/468/519 Why didn't you put an ishukone assault smg? Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4774	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:41:00 - [19] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/2093 You may want to rethink that. ... I've been running Myofibril.Stimulants since fall of last year. I've run dual Complex Kincats and dual Complex Myofibril Stimulants. In all my experience with this mod I can tell you one thing: it's useless. A shield extender is always better and you will see more uses out of precision enhancers than myofibril stimulants. Also, if you care that much about melee, then get Nova Knives. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4774	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:43:00 - [20] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: Shut the **** up. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/468/519 Why didn't you put an ishukone assault smg? Assault SMG's are going away in 1.8. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat

mollerz 2864	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:44:00 - [21] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: If anything, they are finally realistic to use 496 Stamina + 132 recovery 318 melee damage per hit And then knives Don't NK's do more damage per hit than 318? Seems kind of redundant. So far a melee attack has an assist built in akin to auto aim. So ther eis that oasis in a lost cause knife fail attack. It may be the best possibly CQC attack from a cloaked state. Knife slashing coupled with melee attacks can sometimes be a better approach than repeatedly slashing. Think about this. Every fight I've lost to you (in melee combat) was when I was running Complex myofibril stimulants, and haven't even been able to land a hit on you. In the fights I've won, I was actually using Nova Knives. I just want you to think about that. So there is this balance of knife damage, realizing what you've done to your prey, and knowing when a melee is practical. Then there is the issue of landing melee attacks. And there is also the seeming, I've found, expediency in throwing in a melee attack amongst knife slashes... I mean, when it comes to that. All of that is why melee attacks are hard, and it is an even bigger beyotch slap than dying to knives. If I knife slash a heavy down to where I know he has 80 or less health- it is always faster to melee, and you also get the auto aim assist on it, than to slow ass slash. To me- a knife slash is so slow and so disconnected to the animation and sound FX... it's silly. Everything about knifing is way way too slow. it's all about waiting for the code to execute and hoping the net code favored your calculation. But back to the hands down *** slap of the game kill.. it's the melee. Second place are knives.= descending from proto to ADV. We all know basic knives would be allowed on flights by the TSA, so they don't even count. I think getting smacked the ** out of a proto suit by a minja is the newest perfect kill dust has to offer. I know you went all in on melee vs knife. You were just too soon on that. And more than that- knife fights are slower than melee attacks. Also, there is no stamina involved in slashing, but there is in punching. it's about combos as of 1.8 You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 316	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:47:00 - [22] - Quote OH MY GOD. Can you melee while cloaked? I laugh at your CR, SMG, Magsec, HMG, lasers & plasma
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4775	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:49:00 - [23] - Quote bamboo x wrote: OH MY GOD. Can you melee while cloaked? Doubt it. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
mollerz 2864	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:49:00 - [24] - Quote bamboo x wrote: OH MY GOD. Can you melee while cloaked? If you couldn't then the whole concept of cloaking would become really dumb. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4775	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:50:00 - [25] - Quote mollerz wrote: bamboo x wrote: OH MY GOD. Can you melee while cloaked? If you couldn't then the whole concept of cloaking would become really dumb. CCP wanted to make it so you can't so any damage while cloaked. This means no sniping, shotgun, NK's... ETC. Just imagine the temporary cloak when you spawn. Reloading will probably break it too. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 298	Posted - 2014.03.25 03:52:00 - [26] - Quote Unnerf Commando melee, then they'll be quite... handy.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1011	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:17:00 - [27] - Quote You can get an impressive amount of damage out of 3 Complex Myo's Isn't too intensive on suit systems Is the only mod to get significant increase to efficacy Takes no weapon slot Essentially its like having 2 weapons and still have nova knives (actually you'd do more damage than the standard, between 4-500) I'd say not bad going. Always meant to try them out "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
mollerz 2864	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:26:00 - [28] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: mollerz wrote: bamboo x wrote: OH MY GOD. Can you melee while cloaked? If you couldn't then the whole concept of cloaking would become really dumb. CCP wanted to make it so you can't so any damage while cloaked. This means no sniping, shotgun, NK's... ETC. Just imagine the temporary cloak when you spawn. Reloading will probably break it too. They were appeasing whiners for a lot of it. We will just have to see how it plays out. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla


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