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Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 326	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:35:00 - [1] - Quote shall we expect "Sprayn'Pray 514" ? queue paranoid guys cowering in corners with mass drivers :D on a side note... will there be any tell tale signs of invisibility such as the glossy water effect as seen in Halo? and is invisibility even happening? was told by a very convinced player it is xD most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7620	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:36:00 - [2] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: shall we expect "Sprayn'Pray 514" ? queue paranoid guys cowering in corners with mass drivers :D on a side note... will there be any tell tale signs of invisibility such as the glossy water effect as seen in Halo? and is invisibility even happening? was told by a very convinced player it is xD http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 989	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:37:00 - [3] - Quote There'll be a shimmer of movement, and the cloak has to be deactivated before any other action can be taken. I really don't think it'll be as bad as the doomsayers claim, but hey, just one guys opinion. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2240	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:40:00 - [4] - Quote Spademan wrote: There'll be a shimmer of movement, and the cloak has to be deactivated before any other action can be taken. I really don't think it'll be as bad as the doomsayers claim, but hey, just one guys opinion. Of course it won't be, the cortex even makes a sound when you decloak, the doomsayers just don't like the idea that cloaks can't be beat by a gun, but instead require the ability to have situational awareness. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 425	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:42:00 - [5] - Quote They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 328	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:42:00 - [6] - Quote thank you for the thread... just got really freaking alarmed though which you'll read up on in my next thread in about... 5 minutes :) most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 6247	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:43:00 - [7] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. CCP Logibro // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics (a¦á_a¦á)

Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 687	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:44:00 - [8] - Quote I will be jumpy as hell but then again I'm jumpy even with the current scouts TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 319	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:45:00 - [9] - Quote I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 425	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:46:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. Aha, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying! If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5208	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:46:00 - [11] - Quote We need Flamethrowers. mrhmmmrhmmmrm fuckign casuls
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 328	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:46:00 - [12] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting i think that would be insanely broken and an incredibly dangerous idea most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 54	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:46:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. If you just so happen to catch this and open fire at a cloaked target, will the cloak field fade when you hit your target? For some reason I remember reading that the field will cancel if the cloak-er is hit, yet I can't remember where I read it.
Tectonic Fusion 1295	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:47:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. And there I was thinking cloaks would be useless. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 763	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting I like that they are starting out without being able to fire first, rather than find out this is game breaking. I run NKs and I think I would be at an unfair advantage to be able to knife while cloaked. Even if the swipe were to decloak me, most people would be dead before they could do anything. Looking for the scout hangout?
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 328	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:49:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. And there I was thinking cloaks would be useless. how could you think that xD its invisibility. what 10 year old kid would find that pointless... or 20 year old man .... most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 689	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:49:00 - [17] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting Thale sniper with a cloak GÖÑ_GÖÑ oh wait no that would be absolute bullshit TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 328	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:50:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. my first CCP response ever! finally getting somewhere in this world :l .. most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3448	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Shooting at a cloaked merc causes shield flares but doesn't decloak them. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3624	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Shooting at a cloaked merc causes shield flares but doesn't decloak them. Not even Flux? Flux should..... 68 inches above sea level...

Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4499	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:02:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. What do you mean by aiming? Hipfire crosshairs, or aiming down sights? I am your scan error.
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 54	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:13:00 - [22] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Shooting at a cloaked merc causes shield flares but doesn't decloak them. Thanks. Oh, well. All it usually takes to kill a scout is to sneeze on them, anyway.
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 336	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:18:00 - [23] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Shooting at a cloaked merc causes shield flares but doesn't decloak them. Thanks. Oh, well. All it usually takes to kill a scout is to sneeze on them, anyway. damn pesky colds .. most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:21:00 - [24] - Quote FEAR ME! For I am everywhere...and no where
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 310	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:25:00 - [25] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting Thale sniper with a cloak GÖÑ_GÖÑ oh wait no that would be absolute bullshit You probably won't be seeing much of that. If a scout even has the CPU/PG left over for it they're still going to need a nanohive. I laugh at your CR, SMG, Magsec, HMG, lasers & plasma
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2216	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:48:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. will our cross hairs get dragged around by invisible people now?
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 277	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:55:00 - [27] - Quote yesss yeeeeessss let the fear flow through you, all will be so paranoid from now on, as it should be, prey is always scared I FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY, I FIGHT FOR VENEZUELA!, what are you fighting for?
Tectonic Fusion 1296	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:00:00 - [28] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. And there I was thinking cloaks would be useless. how could you think that xD its invisibility. what 10 year old kid would find that pointless... or 20 year old man .... Obviously because if they're invisible and I could just look at them to know they are there there's no point in using the cloak? See cloaks are for hiding in a corner in the shadows to lose the person who you missed and started to attack you. You simply wait 30 seconds (or until he goes away), follow him, and kill him. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 696	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:02:00 - [29] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting Thale sniper with a cloak GÖÑ_GÖÑ oh wait no that would be absolute bullshit You probably won't be seeing much of that. If a scout even has the CPU/PG left over for it they're still going to need a nanohive. Extreme example was required in my opinion TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1507	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:05:00 - [30] - Quote lol there's gonna be a lot more shenanigans tomorrow >Walks across the hall >Hears footsteps >See's nothing and decides to keep going >Suddenly "Scout Ck.0" pops up on your scanner feed >Dies "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2489	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:33:00 - [31] - Quote I plan/expect for a great deal of shooting the air. Nice thing about featuring the LR again, just swipe it across the screen, won't use much ammo! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 348	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:45:00 - [32] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I plan/expect for a great deal of shooting the air. Nice thing about featuring the LR again, just swipe it across the screen, won't use much ammo! ....I see many scouts getting fried while running across a field while cloaked ......so many tears to collect....so little time Real heavies use lasers
Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 260	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:45:00 - [33] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: shall we expect "Sprayn'Pray 514" ? queue paranoid guys cowering in corners with mass drivers :D Hahahahahah +10 Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7626	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:48:00 - [34] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I plan/expect for a great deal of shooting the air. Nice thing about featuring the LR again, just swipe it across the screen, won't use much ammo! ....I see many scouts getting fried while running across a field while cloaked ......so many tears to collect....so little time CrouchCloaked514 Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1879	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:52:00 - [35] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: I still think you should be able to fire in cloak BUT have it decloak when you start shooting Thale sniper with a cloak GÖÑ_GÖÑ oh wait no that would be absolute bullshit You probably won't be seeing much of that. If a scout even has the CPU/PG left over for it they're still going to need a nanohive. This raises a question for me. Cloaking will not interfere with resupply will it? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1103	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:12:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: They'll never be completely invisible. Their red chevrons above their heads will always be there if they're in your crosshairs. Your situational awareness will need to improve, and in the heat of battle you will no doubt not see those chevrons. That's going to be the big issue with cloaking, is scouts seizing their opportunities properly. No red chevron (except if they're decloaking), but the crosshair still turns red and you see the target intel when you're aiming at them. Pleeeeeeaase tell me passive scan still works (assuming I can get beneath them with a Cal scout). Me in my ADS: 1,2
ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2556	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:29:00 - [37] - Quote Let just say cloaking will be the least of our worries this patch... My SP GAP carries me.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 500	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:03:00 - [38] - Quote i seriously doubt cloaks will be as powerful as as everyone thinks. Did you you know cloaking is already ingame? We are cloaked when we spawn in. If you ever been spawn camped you might have noticed/wondered that the campers are looking dead straight at you but don't fire until you move. Because the power of a red crosshair is a really good tool to use when finding hidden enemies. Or have you ever fluxed an uplink and got surprised when a heavy appeared out of thin air... with full shields. This is why i am certain fluxes decloak you but don't effect your shields at the same time. Or have you ever seen a teammate spawn in then move. If you pay close attention you will see their shimmer effect. And what i have seen is that that shimmer is almost as noticeable as a neon light at sunset. ...then again im just sayng my opinion on the matter "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:33:00 - [39] - Quote Mac Dac wrote: i seriously doubt cloaks will be as powerful as as everyone thinks. Did you you know cloaking is already ingame? We are cloaked when we spawn in. If you ever been spawn camped you might have noticed/wondered that the campers are looking dead straight at you but don't fire until you move. Because the power of a red crosshair is a really good tool to use when finding hidden enemies. Or have you ever fluxed an uplink and got surprised when a heavy appeared out of thin air... with full shields. This is why i am certain fluxes decloak you but don't effect your shields at the same time. Or have you ever seen a teammate spawn in then move. If you pay close attention you will see their shimmer effect. And what i have seen is that that shimmer is almost as noticeable as a neon light at sunset. ...then again im just sayng my opinion on the matter They will be initially overpowered at some level once figured with the optimal setup. It's like a railgun, its a med-long range weapon with no actual drawback for short range use. I think the one thing ppl forget is that this game has the same skill set and equipment available to all and everyone strives toward an "optimal build". Unless a cloak takes a significant amount of CPU/PG, you're looking at players running around at top speed attempting shotgun/nova knife kills and then hiding safely. If it was my call, I'd prefer CCP takes things slowly and ask themself (1) what works and what doesn't then (2) how can we make this game work better. We add combat rifles, rail guns, new pistols, etc. Nice that we add all new content but how about adding patches that make the game work better. For MAG vets out there this is the equivalent of the bullet spread debacle, the SVER Tamsen being overpowered and take a sniper and using it as a shotgun. Weapon balance is not about having weapons all equal but ensuring that what they are good at, they are and what they suck at, they just significantly suck at. I'd prefer CCP to really spend resources fixing the aspects of this game rather than releasing stuff like "a cloak".
SLENDER M4N Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:37:00 - [40] - Quote Finally Mr.Heavy isn't gonna be able to see me . I'm just gonna walk right behind him and see were he wobbles off to. When all else fails,leave battle and at least you'll have some dignity left...

jerrmy12 kahoalii 628	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:01:00 - [41] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I plan/expect for a great deal of shooting the air. Nice thing about featuring the LR again, just swipe it across the screen, won't use much ammo! ....I see many scouts getting fried while running across a field while cloaked ......so many tears to collect....so little time Did somebody say, TEARS? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1089	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:07:00 - [42] - Quote Calling it now, there will be a cloaking bug that we keep you perma cloaked Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
LowerThan SnakeShip Ultramarine Corp 9	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:08:00 - [43] - Quote i wonder what mr mustard thinks of cloaking i think we will never see him again unless you are watching the kill feed
jerrmy12 kahoalii 628	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:08:00 - [44] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Calling it now, there will be a cloaking bug that we keep you perma cloaked Or running but visable as still, and *balance sold separately Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 354	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:04:00 - [45] - Quote Has anybody got in game with one yet? Not sure if servers come up in different locations separately most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1383	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:08:00 - [46] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: shall we expect "Sprayn'Pray 514" ? queue paranoid guys cowering in corners with mass drivers :D on a side note... will there be any tell tale signs of invisibility such as the glossy water effect as seen in Halo? and is invisibility even happening? was told by a very convinced player it is xD ""You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle."" CCP im going to hunt you down and murder you all. How can this be a good thing!? Its gunna be so freakin confusing xD ah dear god .. the way it looks i'm going to expect that you'll have to play it smart to be invisible
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 528	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:10:00 - [47] - Quote Honestly anyone worried about cloaking just needs to play TF2 and go up against a spy once or twice, it seems to play similarly. That or just download Planetside 2 and hop on an infiltrator, works exactly the same way. If you stand still you are invisible if you move you get the whole predator look. Makes a sound when you cloak and uncloak. It is in no way gamebreaking.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2716	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:29:00 - [48] - Quote Or 2142 which exactly the same system and it worked awesomely "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Den-tredje Baron The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 256	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:35:00 - [49] - Quote correct me if i'm wrong but you can still scan cloaked scouts yes Sooooo Gall logis running around with proto or advanced scanners will be the new scout hunters of the game ?
Leonid Tybalt Heaven's-Gate 340	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:41:00 - [50] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: We need Flamethrowers. mrhmmmrhmmmrm Agreed. But it has to be sci-fi somehow (I doubt a flaming liquid will hurt a dropsuit)... How about a plasma projector device? Meaning rather than shooting small, pellet gobs of plasma at a high speed like the AR, the projector emits a short but wide cone shaped magnetic field that contains a roaring cloud of plasma, and anything caught inside of that field will be turned into molten slag almost instantly. Basically a high tech plasma welder on steroids.

Asirius Medaius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 910	Posted - 2014.03.25 11:53:00 - [51] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: We need Flamethrowers. mrhmmmrhmmmrm Agreed. But it has to be sci-fi somehow (I doubt a flaming liquid will hurt a dropsuit)... How about a plasma projector device? Meaning rather than shooting small, pellet gobs of plasma at a high speed like the AR, the projector emits a short but wide cone shaped magnetic field that contains a roaring cloud of plasma, and anything caught inside of that field will be turned into molten slag almost instantly. Basically a high tech plasma welder on steroids. I like this, but it would have to be not too powerful, and around the same damage (or a bit more) than the HMG but with much less range to it.


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