DUST Search - Hi, I'm a Gallente Sentinel

Virtual Riot wrote:

I focus on Armor, and generally being a hulking rhinoceros.

Amarr Sentinel has
1. More armor
2. More PG
3. Better recharge delays
4. Better recharge rates
4. 75% more stamina

Ah ha! But I have 1hp/s natural armor regen rate! That is going to make a huge difference in the heat of battle! ( Roll

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CCP

Why make one suit deliberately and obviously worse than another.
There are only 3 things Gallente has over Amarr, if you even consider the following things as advantages.
1. Gallente has 1 hp/s natural regen
2. Both have 5 slots, but Gallente is 1/4 and Amarr is 2/3
3. They both have the same resistances for their skill book, but reversed by 1%. Essentially the same resistances.

Why would you ever pick Gallente over Amarr?
1hps natural regen is nothing, I ran minmatar assault through 1.7, and over a very very very long period of time the 1 hp/s matters, but on a fat suit that will be running over 1000 armor!? Its worthless.
You could say that having more low slots is better, because the better modules are in the lows. But the Amarr has more PG, the resource that armor plates and most low modules focus on. And, Amarr has 75 more base hp. Thats like a free armor plate. Because of this Amarr might as well have 4 lows and 2 highs.

I see no advantages over running Gallente Sentinel over Amarr Sentinel other than looking like a godly Rhino. If you can find any, please enlighten me.

"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"

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Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 226	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:48:00 - [1] - Quote I focus on Armor, and generally being a hulking rhinoceros. Amarr Sentinel has 1. More armor 2. More PG 3. Better recharge delays 4. Better recharge rates 4. 75% more stamina Ah ha! But I have 1hp/s natural armor regen rate! That is going to make a huge difference in the heat of battle! () CCP Why make one suit deliberately and obviously worse than another. There are only 3 things Gallente has over Amarr, if you even consider the following things as advantages. 1. Gallente has 1 hp/s natural regen 2. Both have 5 slots, but Gallente is 1/4 and Amarr is 2/3 3. They both have the same resistances for their skill book, but reversed by 1%. Essentially the same resistances. Why would you ever pick Gallente over Amarr? 1hps natural regen is nothing, I ran minmatar assault through 1.7, and over a very very very long period of time the 1 hp/s matters, but on a fat suit that will be running over 1000 armor!? Its worthless. You could say that having more low slots is better, because the better modules are in the lows. But the Amarr has more PG, the resource that armor plates and most low modules focus on. And, Amarr has 75 more base hp. Thats like a free armor plate. Because of this Amarr might as well have 4 lows and 2 highs. I see no advantages over running Gallente Sentinel over Amarr Sentinel other than looking like a godly Rhino. If you can find any, please enlighten me.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2067	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:52:00 - [2] - Quote Gallente Sentinel can reach over 1200 armor. Just armor. It's shields, if I remember correctly, go over 400 at the level I'm thinking of, so that is 1600 eHP right there. It also has a resistance to Caldari weapon the most, whom have an armor killing weapon of range. A Gallente Sentinel with a logibro (especially two) will be a massive threat. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara, Uprising 1.7 Long live the Commandos!
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2299	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:54:00 - [3] - Quote um, resists all affect main tank = armour tanking gal is more effective than armour tanking Amarr. gal has higher potential tank. Amarr is better against heavies. Basically, actually have a look at the suit beyond slots. Fitting capacity is not a valid argument either. All these new heavies are drowning in fitting. They have basically as much as a GalLogi, and like half the slots to fill. ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:54:00 - [4] - Quote Because of the 1/4? I can see you Buy a tank Buy an assault dropship
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2356	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:54:00 - [5] - Quote Gallente Sentinel gets better resistances and is faster. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 609	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:54:00 - [6] - Quote I have to do this in pieces, work stuff. Let's start. The Gallente Resistances are to armor only, while Amarr bonuses are for both shield and armor, giving the Gallente's main tank more of an ability to tank. Likewise, the Gallente have more actual Shield than the Amarr, not much, but some. Having your main tank resist two of the main counters to it is big. Edit: What everyone else said. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 226	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:55:00 - [7] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Gallente Sentinel gets better resistances and is faster. Its not faster
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2356	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:58:00 - [8] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Gallente Sentinel gets better resistances and is faster. Its not faster It isn't? Still. The Gallente Sentinel gets the best resistances. Resists Projectile AND Rail weapons against your Armor?! That is just too awesome. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 227	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:00:00 - [9] - Quote So you're saying that the small damage reduction percentage differences between the two, and very marginally better base shield, is the Gallentes advantage? I do not see that as being better than all the things I listed that the Amarr has over Gallente More armor 75% more stamina Better recharge rates More PG
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 667	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:02:00 - [10] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Gallente Sentinel gets better resistances and is faster. Its not faster It is unless something twisted the fabric of time and space and made 365 faster than 385 also 1/4 slots with dual armor resists give you more tank than the Amarr sentinels 2/3 basically what everyone in this thread has said so far TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á

Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1176	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:03:00 - [11] - Quote Hi, I am a Minmatar Sentinel. I focus on speed but a Gallente Sentinel with a Kincat is as fast as me but still has more EHP after full fit
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 2808	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:05:00 - [12] - Quote I will be repping at 19.75 a second. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 227	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:06:00 - [13] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Gallente Sentinel gets better resistances and is faster. Its not faster It is unless something twisted the fabric of time and space and made 365 faster than 385 also 1/4 slots with dual armor resists give you more tank than the Amarr sentinels 2/3 basically what everyone in this thread has said so far Ah, well the 8 and the 6 are very hard to tell apart. Its still not that big of a difference though. I just don't see dual armor resistances as better than shield and armor resistances. Also, they will both be able to pull off about the same amount of armor, since Amarr has 75 more base Armor, the difference between an amarr with 3 cmplx plates and a gallente with 4 cmplx plates will be marginal.
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 227	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:07:00 - [14] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Hi, I am a Minmatar Sentinel. I focus on speed but a Gallente Sentinel with a Kincat is as fast as me but still has more EHP after full fit we all know minmatar suck thats why i'm not even mentioning them :)
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 667	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:14:00 - [15] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Ah, well the 8 and the 6 are very hard to tell apart. Its still not that big of a difference though. I just don't see dual armor resistances as better than shield and armor resistances. Also, they will both be able to pull off about the same amount of armor, since Amarr has 75 more base Armor, the difference between an amarr with 3 cmplx plates and a gallente with 4 cmplx plates will be marginal. Total of 15% damage decrease towards Hybrid - Rail (RR, BP, SR, MSMG) Total of 10% damage decrease towards Projectile (HMG, CR, SMG) Gallente Sentinel with 3 Cx plates and a enhanced/proto rep will have more tank than the Amarr with (little) better repair rate as Amarr can have 2 Cx plates and a enhanced/proto rep given that the total HP difference is not huge but it's still there TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Jack Boost Zarena Family 342	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:14:00 - [16] - Quote Hi, i'm caldari heavy. You see me... now not.. and NOW I'm fully repaierd :) Do you have spare clones?
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 2809	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:31:00 - [17] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Hi, i'm caldari heavy. You see me... now not.. and NOW I'm fully repaierd :) Do you have spare clones? Do you need some? I noticed you fell down after I tossed a flux and looked at ya. Not even a mean stare, just a "howdoyado" look. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12431	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:32:00 - [18] - Quote 1 HP per second was literally the dumbest thing I've heard. That would still be useful on a scout, where the 3 HP / sec would actually make the tiniest difference on a Sentinel. Classic CCP smh Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Jack Boost Zarena Family 342	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:35:00 - [19] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Hi, i'm caldari heavy. You see me... now not.. and NOW I'm fully repaierd :) Do you have spare clones? Do you need some? I noticed you fell down after I tossed a flux and looked at ya. Not even a mean stare, just a "howdoyado" look. How many flux you have? One more ? BRING IT! I'm already with full shield. My armor is like underwear... you never saw it
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 544	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:39:00 - [20] - Quote 2 things. 1- Gal sentinel is a turtle. Rhino was the old old old concept art. It went from rhino to owl to turtle. 2- U-G-L-Y you ain't got no alibi you ugly. what? what? You ugly. Gallente heavy is ugly. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1614	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:40:00 - [21] - Quote I'm putting 4 Kincats on my Gal Sentinel. I shall call it "Wrecking ball". Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 7712	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:42:00 - [22] - Quote Powergrid is a pointleess +1 for 1.8 heavies. A Gallente heavy, filling ALL OF IT'S SLOTS WITH PROTOTYPE, and I mean everything, weapons, grenades, modules, everything prototype, still has a fuckton of CPU/PG leftover. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone 11	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:49:00 - [23] - Quote They are pretty equal people. I just want to look like and giant beetle!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 7712	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:50:00 - [24] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: I'm putting 4 Kincats on my Gal Sentinel. I shall call it "Wrecking ball". 2 on a minmatar heavy will bring it to above assault speeds Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1123	Posted - 2014.03.24 16:38:00 - [25] - Quote 1/4 slots Better resists Not as slow
Kairos Nitak Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.03.24 17:03:00 - [26] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Hi, i'm caldari heavy. You see me... now not.. and NOW I'm fully repaierd :) Do you have spare clones? Do you need some? I noticed you fell down after I tossed a flux and looked at ya. Not even a mean stare, just a "howdoyado" look. How many flux you have? One more ? BRING IT! I'm already with full shield. My armor is like underwear... you never saw it ya, 1 second recharge delay is great and all but 30 shield recharge takes 17 seconds to recharge base shields.. and if you can't hide you only have 390 amor to fall back on which is like killing a scout!
Kairos Nitak Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.03.24 17:11:00 - [27] - Quote Kairos Nitak wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Hi, i'm caldari heavy. You see me... now not.. and NOW I'm fully repaierd :) Do you have spare clones? Do you need some? I noticed you fell down after I tossed a flux and looked at ya. Not even a mean stare, just a "howdoyado" look. How many flux you have? One more ? BRING IT! I'm already with full shield. My armor is like underwear... you never saw it ya, 1 second recharge delay is great and all but 30 shield recharge takes 17 seconds to recharge base shields.. and if you can't hide you only have 390 amor to fall back on which is like killing a scout! PLUS against other heavies you are completely screwed! Cal heavy will have like half the eHP as Gal and Ammar especially considering they BOTH have armour resistance to projectile weapons (HMG) and Cal has no resistance to projectiles!
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 234	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:15:00 - [28] - Quote Now that I made this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150121&find=unread My argement stands. The EHP between the Gallente and Amarr are marginal at best and Amarr still get the benefit of 75% more stamina 2 highs and 3 lows (more fitting versatility vs Gallentes 1/4 while maintaining comparable ehp vales) better shield recharge rates get at me
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3311	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:29:00 - [29] - Quote It's spelled Ryno. But, thanks for the name drop. Sentinel gK.0 before it was cool. I GÖú Kittens.
Kosakai ZionTCD 30	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:47:00 - [30] - Quote Hi, I am a Minmatar Sentinel. and your 1500 eHP eat my forge gun SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED FORGE GUN LOVER TANK HUNTER

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11666	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:58:00 - [31] - Quote Please stop being bad. The Gallente Sentinel looks excellent, as does the Amarr Sentinel. Neither are notably better or worse than the other - they are both solid options with their own purposes. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 302	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:14:00 - [32] - Quote If you think at the proto level 15% armor resistance to hybrid rail is an insignificant difference, you are sorely mistaken. Amarr only resists hybrid rail with its shields and still only gets a 10% resistance. Gallente Sentinel appears to be the option to resist almost every type of damage on the battlefield without having to run and hide as much as the Caldari. I laugh at your CR, SMG, Magsec, HMG, lasers & plasma
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8782	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:19:00 - [33] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: I focus on Armor, and generally being a hulking rhinoceros. Amarr Sentinel has 1. More armor 2. More PG 3. Better recharge delays 4. Better recharge rates 4. 75% more stamina Ah ha! But I have 1hp/s natural armor regen rate! That is going to make a huge difference in the heat of battle! () CCP Why make one suit deliberately and obviously worse than another. There are only 3 things Gallente has over Amarr, if you even consider the following things as advantages. 1. Gallente has 1 hp/s natural regen 2. Both have 5 slots, but Gallente is 1/4 and Amarr is 2/3 3. They both have the same resistances for their skill book, but reversed by 1%. Essentially the same resistances. Why would you ever pick Gallente over Amarr? 1hps natural regen is nothing, I ran minmatar assault through 1.7, and over a very very very long period of time the 1 hp/s matters, but on a fat suit that will be running over 1000 armor!? Its worthless. You could say that having more low slots is better, because the better modules are in the lows. But the Amarr has more PG, the resource that armor plates and most low modules focus on. And, Amarr has 75 more base hp. Thats like a free armor plate. Because of this Amarr might as well have 4 lows and 2 highs. I see no advantages over running Gallente Sentinel over Amarr Sentinel other than looking like a godly Rhino. If you can find any, please enlighten me. Amarr are primary Armour tankers as well, and we tank volume of armour and resistances while Gallente are less armoured but rep faster. This is exactly as I feel it should be. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1102	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:29:00 - [34] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: 1 HP per second was literally the dumbest thing I've heard. That would still be useful on a scout, where the 3 HP / sec would actually make the tiniest difference on a Sentinel. Classic CCP smh Maybe, but many of us math nerds are already QQing about the OPness of the Gallente and Amarr sentinels. Give the 3 HP/sec armor reps and defenders of these suits REALLY wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1102	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:32:00 - [35] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Powergrid is a pointleess +1 for 1.8 heavies. A Gallente heavy, filling ALL OF IT'S SLOTS WITH PROTOTYPE, and I mean everything, weapons, grenades, modules, everything prototype, still has a fuckton of CPU/PG leftover. I know right whereas the idiots like me who will still try to eek out a living running assault suits struggle to put a proto light weapon and proto sidearm with some decent tank, not even able to hope for proto tank Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.


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