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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:11:00 -
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C'mon CCP stop handing out second chances.
Dropships need to explode in the air when you finish them off, killing the pilot and occupants immediately. Make it so they can't bail out. Tanks need to be held to this as well. Fire should seal you in.
You know, if your vehicle is ON FIRE you shouldn't be able to get out.
Strap these wusses into their coffins. The Captain goes down with the ship.
That is all.
Because beer, that's why.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2297
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:16:00 -
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This would fix a lot of problems.
Someone's gonna come in and say 'NUH UH CANT GET OUT OF TANK BEFORE IT DIES TOO THEN'.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1087
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:18:00 -
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i miss the fire DOT on the HAVs it was fun watching a HAV pull away thinking its survived the AV attacks just to blow up from fire dmg 
CCP should really bring that back.
and it would be fun watching a DS explode in the air with everyone onboard 
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
592
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:23:00 -
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Considering that the pilot and occupants always have the ability to make a judgment call and bailout before catastrophic failure. This is nothing more than handholding on CCP's part.
Edit: Wait are we talking about the 5-10sec grace period DS pilots/occupants get after their ship has been shot out of the sky or people in vehicles shouldn't be able to bail once their **** catches on fire?
The latter is a dumb idea.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
1004
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:29:00 -
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I bring out my vehicles knowing full well the risks. I don't bail out of my vehicles, I die with it. Real mercs stay in there vehicles accepted it. If you hop your tank I wont blast you, that's b1tchy.
I'll run you over in my tank. Roadkill in a tank. ALMOST as humiliating as dying to a basic FLP when your a protostacked heavy.
I am the shadow, and the ghost in your eyes, I am the scout, that hunts in the night
-Shadow Scout
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
340
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:35:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I bring out my vehicles knowing full well the risks. I don't bail out of my vehicles, I die with it. Real mercs stay in there vehicles accepted it. If you hop your tank I wont blast you, that's b1tchy.
I'll run you over in my tank. Roadkill in a tank. ALMOST as humiliating as dying to a basic FLP when your a protostacked heavy.
You should watch top ten tank driver that 'don't' jumpout  
You must deal with proto heavy with HMG after this
Now tell me about honor and stuff. There is WAR... and WAR never changes. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1857
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:38:00 -
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This is where a well-done exit animation could add so much interesting, immersive gameplay.
If you took fire damage to your armor when exiting a burning vehicle, and if that damage scaled with how burning the vehicle was, choosing when to bail would be a highly tactical decision.
Imagine and insertion team whose dropship was taking fire inbound to a point, bail too soon to avoid fire damage and you've got a long, potentially lethal approach to the objective. Bail too late nad you hit the ground with a good chunk of your armor gone.
And as far as tanks go, this kind of exit animation would be a powerful and immersive balancing mechanic. Pretty good bang for the game-design buck, imo.
I support SP rollover.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
1005
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:40:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I bring out my vehicles knowing full well the risks. I don't bail out of my vehicles, I die with it. Real mercs stay in there vehicles accepted it. If you hop your tank I wont blast you, that's b1tchy.
I'll run you over in my tank. Roadkill in a tank. ALMOST as humiliating as dying to a basic FLP when your a protostacked heavy. You should watch top ten tank driver that 'don't' jumpout You must deal with proto heavy with HMG after this Now tell me about honor and stuff. There is WAR... and WAR never changes.
So true. War is unfair. The #1 rule of a scout. NEVER fight fair.
I am the shadow, and the ghost in your eyes, I am the scout, that hunts in the night
-Shadow Scout
Duct Tape
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1091
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:41:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Considering that the pilot and occupants always have the ability to make a judgment call and bailout before catastrophic failure. This is nothing more than handholding on CCP's part.
Edit: Wait are we talking about the 5-10sec grace period DS pilots/occupants get after their ship has been shot out of the sky or people in vehicles shouldn't be able to bail once their **** catches on fire?
The latter is a dumb idea.
i think the OP meant that once the DS EHP reaches 0 it blows up and not fall into the ground thus giving the occupants a chance to bail out.
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KGB Sleep
889
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:45:00 -
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If you crash your car into a tree you aren't going to get out and chop the tree down.
You're going to cry and call amberlamps.
At the very least, pilots that eject or get out of flaming battered vehicles need to suffer some trauma.
Because beer, that's why.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1632
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:58:00 -
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tanks should take fire damage again, it was a pain but added a lot to the game imo
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1605
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:03:00 -
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As a tanker i hate it when other vehicle operatives jump out just before their impending doom . If you kill the vehicle you deserve the clone kill as well.
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
342
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:06:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:If you crash your car into a tree you aren't going to get out and chop the tree down.
You're going to cry and call amberlamps.
At the very least, pilots that eject or get out of flaming battered vehicles need to suffer some trauma.
Better - they catch flemes onself. Running little random* (harder to sterr) and cry laud...
This give us little chance to fight back and more pleasure from SUCCESFULY AV
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fragmentedhackslash
FREE AGENTS LP
183
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:06:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:
If you took fire damage to your armor when exiting a burning vehicle, and if that damage scaled with how burning the vehicle was,
How burning was that pilot, much burning....
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2069
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:09:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:C'mon CCP stop handing out second chances. Dropships need to explode in the air when you finish them off, killing the pilot and occupants immediately. Make it so they can't bail out. Tanks need to be held to this as well. Fire should seal you in. You know, if your vehicle is ON FIRE you shouldn't be able to get out. Strap these wusses into their coffins. The Captain goes down with the ship. That is all.
1.8 introduces WP for damaging vehicles. Not letting people out of a burning dropship is another of the worse ideas I've read on this forum.
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fragmentedhackslash
FREE AGENTS LP
185
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:11:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:As a tanker i hate it when other vehicle operatives jump out just before their impending doom . If you kill the vehicle you deserve the clone kill as well.
What about not having damage control units?
Think that was a bad thing to remove.
What about not being able to turn off your modules to restart them quickly, like in =EvE=?
What about not being able to shoot?
I'm no longer in vechials and I still shiver at the bad mechanics they give pilots.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1860
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:13:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:
If you took fire damage to your armor when exiting a burning vehicle, and if that damage scaled with how burning the vehicle was,
How burning was that pilot, much burning....
Makes me really want night maps ;)
I support SP rollover.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2301
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:15:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:C'mon CCP stop handing out second chances. Dropships need to explode in the air when you finish them off, killing the pilot and occupants immediately. Make it so they can't bail out. Tanks need to be held to this as well. Fire should seal you in. You know, if your vehicle is ON FIRE you shouldn't be able to get out. Strap these wusses into their coffins. The Captain goes down with the ship. That is all. 1.8 introduces WP for damaging vehicles. Not letting people out of a burning dropship is another of the worse ideas I've read on this forum.
Why?
Why do dropships get a grace period to save their fancy protosuits but I in my tank have to detonate as soon as I hit 0hp?
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
27
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:18:00 -
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So everyone wants already underpowered dropships to be that much weaker and susceptible to damage... this is why we don't have balance. Talking about how you can bail out of your ship is "hand holding", and others want fire damage to be reintroduced, which is essentially hand holding, as you're dependent upon the fire taking care of the enemy you couldn't kill... |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
219
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:19:00 -
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They should just do this for tanks.
The next build better be good. CCP don't mess up.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
342
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:26:00 -
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Dropship should have same mechanics like dropsuit with 'headshot'.
If you shot it:
- and dropship have from 0 to eg. minus 1/4 EHP - fall down as usualy.
- below -------------------------> NICE FIREWORK AT SKY .. like mini destroyed MMC or Deathstar and all dead in 'piniata' |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12431
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:30:00 -
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I'll consider it as soon as I can't be instantly killed by null cannons, mcc missiles, mccs, invisible artifacts, engine failures, gently clipping buildings, hitting other dropships, invisible RDVs, and damage stacked rail tanks that are so far in the redline that they don't render.
Basically:
QQ more.
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Soldiersaint
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
760
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:32:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I bring out my vehicles knowing full well the risks. I don't bail out of my vehicles, I die with it. Real mercs stay in there vehicles accepted it. If you hop your tank I wont blast you, that's b1tchy.
I'll run you over in my tank. Roadkill in a tank. ALMOST as humiliating as dying to a basic FLP when your a protostacked heavy.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
595
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'll consider it as soon as I can't be instantly killed by null cannons, mcc missiles, mccs, invisible artifacts, engine failures, gently clipping buildings, hitting other dropships, invisible RDVs, and damage stacked rail tanks that are so far in the redline that they don't render.
Basically:
QQ more.
No, having the grace period in the event any of those underlined things you listed happened would have made sense otherwise it just ******** and doubly so that it doesn't even kick in those circumstances.
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