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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:46:00 -
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This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
687
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Posted - 2014.03.24 06:10:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything
So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm....
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
603
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Posted - 2014.03.24 06:13:00 -
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I just shot down an Incubus with a triple damage modded Particle Cannon from the Redline.
Felt a little dirty on the inside.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1116
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Posted - 2014.03.24 06:36:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery?
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2014.03.24 07:42:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything
Your a kb/m ***
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Cinnamon267
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:24:00 -
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I wonder what will happen with redline railgunners when 1.8 comes. Getting points for, well, doing damage to a tank might encourage them to flee into the redline.... hopefully wrong? |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
658
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:35:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm....
not only that he is using KBM when driving a tank ....
look if i had say 1 $ for every COD or BF player that came on here crying over tanks id by everyone in dust and CCP devs a beer .
if i had 1$ for every time someone got pissed off ingame and came to the forums crying over rail tanks and red line when They where the ones who played like a duck with out a head and got shot up for it .
id be marred to 2 females and have over 50 kids and STILL have the money to send them to fine schools and pay for there kids schooling .
as well as buy everyone in dust and CCP devs a beer.
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
658
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:38:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:I wonder what will happen with redline railgunners when 1.8 comes. Getting points for, well, doing damage to a tank might encourage them to flee into the redline.... hopefully wrong?
? what your saying is you believe there is no av in game ?
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
658
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:03:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery?
umm sorry but yeah sound like you dint even know what you where even doing at all ....
maybe if you where playing a top down 2D game may be .
what im trying to point out that on the map your playing you cant take the other teams home point with one tank as the map was build around the idea that the home points would be the most ez defend and that most of the fighting was to take place in the city .
the map was also build with the idea of rage combat with tanks witch means you driving your tank into his home point was like a fly trying to 1 vs 1 a spider and its web.
your drive in to if you look at the map a spot called a bottleneck/choke point the map was made like this limit the uses of tanks for camping the red line so that the battle was more on fast flanking moves with drop ships and drop suits vs the old with was mass of tanks making a wall at the other team red line and pawning away like you see in most other maps.
in this map driving your tanks anywhere closes to the other team red line is a dum idea unless there is some over riding need of it and should only be done with a limed engagement.
as you can see your... if you want to call it a plan was doomed from the start . its not the red lines fault for you driving in the open as your foe is hull down and relocating to kill you. or is it his or ccp.s fault for you driving into a kill box .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
676
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:00:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything
Well there is your problem.
YOU WERE USING MISSILES!
Seriously trying to beat a redline railer with missile tanks?? Da **** man.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1116
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:53:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? umm sorry but yeah sound like you dint even know what you where even doing at all .... maybe if you where playing a top down 2D game may be . what im trying to point out that on the map your playing you cant take the other teams home point with one tank as the map was build around the idea that the home points would be the most ez defend and that most of the fighting was to take place in the city . the map was also build with the idea of rage combat with tanks witch means you driving your tank into his home point was like a fly trying to 1 vs 1 a spider and its web. your drive in to if you look at the map a spot called a bottleneck/choke point the map was made like this limit the uses of tanks for camping the red line so that the battle was more on fast flanking moves with drop ships and drop suits vs the old with was mass of tanks making a wall at the other team red line and pawning away like you see in most other maps. in this map driving your tanks anywhere closes to the other team red line is a dum idea unless there is some over riding need of it and should only be done with a limed engagement. as you can see your... if you want to call it a plan was doomed from the start . its not the red lines fault for you driving in the open as your foe is hull down and relocating to kill you. or is it his or ccp.s fault for you driving into a kill box .
You did not read at all. The whole time we where trying to kill the red line tanks. If you had read we had 3 tanks on the field, 1 was destroyed by the double damage moded redline rail at the beggining and mine was destroyed by a bomb truck while doing evasive maneuvers.
You see they couodnt kill us even with redline tanks because they where scrubs so they had to bring out bomb lavs. We almost killed one of the tanks in engagement point 1 and 2 thats why tank 1 had to move deeper into the red line.
Other are sayin that it was because i was using kb/m but thats not it, it,s actually easier for me to run tanks with it since before dust i did not use s3 but played in pc.
Seriously get back under the bridge
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12439
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:58:00 -
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The redline is a failed mechanic that does nothing but ruin future balance and ensure that we never ever receive larger maps.
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Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster
205
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:03:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? umm sorry but yeah sound like you dint even know what you where even doing at all .... maybe if you where playing a top down 2D game may be . what im trying to point out that on the map your playing you cant take the other teams home point with one tank as the map was build around the idea that the home points would be the most ez defend and that most of the fighting was to take place in the city . the map was also build with the idea of rage combat with tanks witch means you driving your tank into his home point was like a fly trying to 1 vs 1 a spider and its web. your drive in to if you look at the map a spot called a bottleneck/choke point the map was made like this limit the uses of tanks for camping the red line so that the battle was more on fast flanking moves with drop ships and drop suits vs the old with was mass of tanks making a wall at the other team red line and pawning away like you see in most other maps. in this map driving your tanks anywhere closes to the other team red line is a dum idea unless there is some over riding need of it and should only be done with a limed engagement. as you can see your... if you want to call it a plan was doomed from the start . its not the red lines fault for you driving in the open as your foe is hull down and relocating to kill you. or is it his or ccp.s fault for you driving into a kill box . So taking out tanks with oversight of the majority of the map isn't "over riding need" to you? If that's the only chance you have of taking out redline scrubs, do it!
Not new, just new to you.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12441
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:07:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? umm sorry but yeah sound like you dint even know what you where even doing at all .... maybe if you where playing a top down 2D game may be . what im trying to point out that on the map your playing you cant take the other teams home point with one tank as the map was build around the idea that the home points would be the most ez defend and that most of the fighting was to take place in the city . the map was also build with the idea of rage combat with tanks witch means you driving your tank into his home point was like a fly trying to 1 vs 1 a spider and its web. your drive in to if you look at the map a spot called a bottleneck/choke point the map was made like this limit the uses of tanks for camping the red line so that the battle was more on fast flanking moves with drop ships and drop suits vs the old with was mass of tanks making a wall at the other team red line and pawning away like you see in most other maps. in this map driving your tanks anywhere closes to the other team red line is a dum idea unless there is some over riding need of it and should only be done with a limed engagement. as you can see your... if you want to call it a plan was doomed from the start . its not the red lines fault for you driving in the open as your foe is hull down and relocating to kill you. or is it his or ccp.s fault for you driving into a kill box . So taking out tanks with oversight of the majority of the map isn't "over riding need" to you? If that's the only chance you have of taking out redline scrubs, do it! You're talking to king of the Redline, he will do ANYTHING to protect that crutch. Your reason and logic are wasted on him, I can assure you
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
106
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:31:00 -
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lol that dude uses keyboard and mouse and makes unnecessarily confusing maps to illustrate how he lost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvH1NwqhbY8
Assault Dropship Pilot
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12445
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:32:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:lol that dude uses keyboard and mouse and makes unnecessarily confusing maps to illustrate how he lost The map is actually incredibly simple and easy to follow...
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
106
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:37:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:lol that dude uses keyboard and mouse and makes unnecessarily confusing maps to illustrate how he lost The map is actually incredibly simple and easy to follow...
i would have liked a legend indicating what the different colored arrows were, and was tank 1 and tank 2 point 1 and point 2? or were those friendly tanks and simply the numbers 1 and 2, point 1 and point 2? im staying the course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvH1NwqhbY8
Assault Dropship Pilot
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Kiriasis Draca
Ultramarine Corp
135
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:02:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? umm sorry but yeah sound like you dint even know what you where even doing at all .... maybe if you where playing a top down 2D game may be . what im trying to point out that on the map your playing you cant take the other teams home point with one tank as the map was build around the idea that the home points would be the most ez defend and that most of the fighting was to take place in the city . the map was also build with the idea of rage combat with tanks witch means you driving your tank into his home point was like a fly trying to 1 vs 1 a spider and its web. your drive in to if you look at the map a spot called a bottleneck/choke point the map was made like this limit the uses of tanks for camping the red line so that the battle was more on fast flanking moves with drop ships and drop suits vs the old with was mass of tanks making a wall at the other team red line and pawning away like you see in most other maps. in this map driving your tanks anywhere closes to the other team red line is a dum idea unless there is some over riding need of it and should only be done with a limed engagement. as you can see your... if you want to call it a plan was doomed from the start . its not the red lines fault for you driving in the open as your foe is hull down and relocating to kill you. or is it his or ccp.s fault for you driving into a kill box . You did not read at all. The whole time we where trying to kill the red line tanks. If you had read we had 3 tanks on the field, 1 was destroyed by the double damage moded redline rail at the beggining and mine was destroyed by a bomb truck while doing evasive maneuvers. You see they couodnt kill us even with redline tanks because they where scrubs so they had to bring out bomb lavs. We almost killed one of the tanks in engagement point 1 and 2 thats why tank 1 had to move deeper into the red line. Other are sayin that it was because i was using kb/m but thats not it, it,s actually easier for me to run tanks with it since before dust i did not use s3 but played in pc. Seriously get back under the bridge
Soooo...you needed three tanks to take out two tanks? Did you designate one tank to keep over watch on ground troops? I mean, after he came back in and recalled his blown up tank of course? On that note, did all tanks have clear communication with each other?
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1117
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:32:00 -
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Kiriasis Draca wrote:
Soooo...you needed three tanks to take out two tanks? Did you designate one tank to keep over watch on ground troops? I mean, after he came back in and recalled his blown up tank of course? On that note, did all tanks have clear communication with each other?
And yes, nice use of those arrows.
Clear communication, The first tank engaged alone, Both the second and third tanks (me and a buddy) where basic level turrets, Third he ran behind cover in the redline before we could deal the finishing blow which was about 100HP of his armor left, third they did not come out of the redline again for us to be able to deal more than one volley of our missiles because we had scared the crap out of them, fourth My buddy was going around another corner to trap him when I got Bombed with an LAV,
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1117
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:33:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:lol that dude uses keyboard and mouse and makes unnecessarily confusing maps to illustrate how he lost The map is actually incredibly simple and easy to follow... i would have liked a legend indicating what the different colored arrows were, and was tank 1 and tank 2 point 1 and point 2? or were those friendly tanks and simply the numbers 1 and 2, point 1 and point 2? im staying the course EDIT: the only part of the map i liked was where the green arrow "Tron'd" out and ran back into his own arrow and exploded
Read the whole thing or else you will not understand anything in the picture. It's meant to be accompanied by the paragraphs at the left not looked at seperately
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
688
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Posted - 2014.03.24 23:54:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery?
This particular map has several counterpoints, being that you can hide along the ground firing into the redline as easily as you can fire from the redline due to the towers at D-8. There is a region to the east from which you can fire down into the problem zones with a tank. About H-10. Same for the west side. According to this map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80606&find=unread
The view from there seems to coincide with the "Problematic" points of your excursion. It's like you didn't even look at the map itself...
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
162
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Posted - 2014.03.25 00:28:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHy6CXWk3K4&list=UUy11xToip47aIW0M9TSOKrQ
By Judge Rhadamanthus, this explains the BS of redline tankers much better then anything I could type out. |
XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1118
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Posted - 2014.03.25 01:00:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? This particular map has several counterpoints, being that you can hide along the ground firing into the redline as easily as you can fire from the redline due to the towers at D-8. There is a region to the east from which you can fire down into the problem zones with a tank. About H-10. Same for the west side. According to this map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80606&find=unreadThe view from there seems to coincide with the "Problematic" points of your excursion. It's like you didn't even look at the map itself...
I have all the maps as my desktop and use them to make my decision because my PS3 screen is right next to my Computer screen. I knew exactly where to go. The tanks did not get me it was a BOMB LAV
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
688
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Posted - 2014.03.25 01:16:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm.... We had a strategy, he had a blindside on the hill, hence i tried to engage while he couldnt see me. Unfortunately he looked towards me when i was in point c. Why do you think i went around the city to take a look at the scenery? This particular map has several counterpoints, being that you can hide along the ground firing into the redline as easily as you can fire from the redline due to the towers at D-8. There is a region to the east from which you can fire down into the problem zones with a tank. About H-10. Same for the west side. According to this map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80606&find=unreadThe view from there seems to coincide with the "Problematic" points of your excursion. It's like you didn't even look at the map itself... I have all the maps as my desktop and use them to make my decision because my PS3 screen is right next to my Computer screen. I knew exactly where to go. The tanks did not get me it was a BOMB LAV The maps you didn't use... because tank 1 and tank 2 from your example could have been cleaned out by 2 people very easily from a flanking vantage in the regions I mentioned, creating a crossfire zone, and eliminating any hiding spots.... Thus you would not have been at risk of the LAV nor the redline tanks. The third person could have drawn attention by sitting in the distraction spot (where your tank blew up) while the tanks on the flanks destroyed....
Had you used the maps for looking at firing and retreat angles, you could have had them, but instead you and your group charged up the center. Just because you looked at a map does not mean you used the map.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
260
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Posted - 2014.03.25 01:27:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This time we tried to fight back But... Well the picture in the link explains everything So you didn't actually fire back with any strategy, but instead ran after the tank blindly while making a big show of yourselves... Mmm....
It seems to me that enemy strategy was - REDLINE.
How would you combat that you military genius you?
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
260
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Posted - 2014.03.25 01:43:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: The maps you didn't use... because tank 1 and tank 2 from your example could have been cleaned out by 2 people very easily from a flanking vantage in the regions I mentioned, creating a crossfire zone, and eliminating any hiding spots.... Thus you would not have been at risk of the LAV nor the redline tanks. The third person could have drawn attention by sitting in the distraction spot (where your tank blew up) while the tanks on the flanks destroyed....
Had you used the maps for looking at firing and retreat angles, you could have had them, but instead you and your group charged up the center. Just because you looked at a map does not mean you used the map.
But they were actively trying to take out the redline sonofabitchpussyassdick and not hide from him, you misunderstand the reason behind his post, that being that redline tanks are sonofabitchpussyassdicks!
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
660
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:38:00 -
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Quote: So taking out tanks with oversight of the majority of the map isn't "over riding need" to you? If that's the only chance you have of taking out redline scrubs, do it!
You're talking to king of the Redline, he will do ANYTHING to protect that crutch. Your reason and logic are wasted on him, I can assure you
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its ok you keep thinking that
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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